Choptalks Sunday Baseball 156-131 +$5088.00 +50.8 Units Ytd

CHOPTALK · Jul 1, 2007

156-131 +$5088.00 +50.8 Units Ytd

Nice day yesterday, picking up about 7 units on a 4-1 day. Trever Hoffman gets us 8 units in the last 2 days. Lets give Trever a big hand. Thank you HOFFMAN.

3)Cards -103 $309 for $300
3)Braves under 9.5 -110 $330 for $300
3)DETROIT -1.5 -115 $345 for $300
2)OAKLAND +126 $200 for $252
2)BREWERS +105 $200 for $210 (THERE BACK!)

Good luck everyone and have a very :money8: day.....

ShiftyMac · Jul 1, 2007

nice card chop....tigers are +115 though at -1.5, is that a typo or just ur books line

CHOPTALK · Jul 1, 2007

You know, the more I think about it, the more I love this under in the Braves game. Carlye shut the marlins out last time he faced them on 1 hit, and Willis has been hell on the Braves.

silver7 · Jul 1, 2007

"there back" where?

What does that mean? Are you referring to Mil reemergence? Like in they`re back.

raiderguy · Jul 1, 2007

i agree, thank you hoffman!

good job choptalk yesterday.

Smartass · Jul 1, 2007

CHOPTALK said:
Carlye shut the marlins out last time he faced them on 1 hit ...

That scares me (although he didn't shut them out). Sort of afraid the Marlins get to him tomorrow.

CHOPTALK · Jul 1, 2007

Shifty Mac said:
nice card chop....tigers are +115 though at -1.5, is that a typo or just ur books line

Yes thats right. My bad. Maybe I should just start pasting my tickets to avoid mistakes.

$300 for $345

CHOPTALK · Jul 1, 2007

silver7 said:
What does that mean? Are you referring to Mil reemergence? Like in they`re back.

Never really felt like they were down. I knew they were for real even during there slump. I just think they have snapped out of it now.

Betting4Fun · Jul 1, 2007

Hi Chop

Thanks for your picks,i was just wondering about this game in particular
since i was leaning to bet on the tigers myself and was happy to see you
chosing the RL in that game,however when i went to look at stats i saw
the following;

JEREMY BONDERMAN vs. MINNESOTA since 1997 BONDERMAN is 2-6 when starting against MINNESOTA with an ERA of 6.17 and a WHIP of 1.660,His team's record is 2-9 (-7.4 units) in these starts. The UNDER is 5-4. (+0.9 units)

So in light of that are there any 2nd thoughts or i should have not even asked?sorry if you have made your wager already,not trying to challange you or anything,just seeking experienced bettor opinion,since i am new in the block,hope you don't take it the wrong way.

Thanks.
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Paid2play · Jul 1, 2007

Great Saturday card Chop. San Diego Again with the nice nightcap. Good luck! A new season high should be almost in reach.:thumbsup:

Sunday is good for me !:banger:
P2P

CHOPTALK · Jul 1, 2007

Betting4Fun said:
Hi Chop

Thanks for your picks,i was just wondering about this game in particular
since i was leaning to bet on the tigers myself and was happy to see you
chosing the RL in that game,however when i went to look at stats i saw
the following;

So in light of that are there any 2nd thoughts or i should have not even asked?sorry if you have made your wager already,not trying to challange you or anything,just seeking experienced bettor opinion,since i am new in the block,hope you don't take it the wrong way.

Thanks.
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No problem. Thats a good question.

I dont go back in time nearly that far when it comes to baseball stats.
Most of the seasons that Bonderman has been in the league with the exception of this season and last season he has played on 100 loss teams with no bullpen.

Here is one of my little tricks that I use to cap pitching stats. I only use the current season thats in progress, and the 2 seasons before that.
Then I take out the worst start during that time for each pitcher. Sometimes a pitcher will have real stinker and inflate the stats to look worse than they really are.

Imagine if you have a pitcher against a certain team that gives up 2 runs, 1 run, 3runs, 0 runs, and then has a game where he gives up 8 runs in 3innings.

You look at the stats at face value and if you dont dig deep enough, you will have the false perception that he is a bad pitcher against that team.

Any pitcher for DETROIT you have to be carefull. Especially people like Bonderman who was there when the Tigers were the worst team in baseball.

Betting4Fun · Jul 1, 2007

Thanks Chop,

JEREMY BONDERMAN recent starts vs. MINNESOTA
Date Opponent Score Line Total Result Dec IP R ER H HR BB SO Opp Starter
9/10/2006 at MINNESOTA 1-12 +170 7 Loss,Over L 5.7 7 6 8 0 3 6 SANTANA
8/9/2006 MINNESOTA 3-4 +100 7.5 Loss,Under 7 2 2 8 0 2 5 SANTANA
7/30/2006 at MINNESOTA 4-6 +145 7.5 Loss,Over L 7.7 6 3 6 0 2 8 SANTANA

See what makes me reluctant is the fact he lost all 3 last season when Detroit was hot all in all.on the other end the other guy won 2 out of his last 3 starts against Detroit,ah well i guess i will wish you best of luck,i will sleep on this one tonight..LOL

CHOPTALK · Jul 1, 2007

Betting4Fun said:
Thanks Chop,

See what makes me reluctant is the fact he lost all 3 last season when Detroit was hot all in all.ah well i guess i will wish you best of luck,i will sleep on this one tonight..LOL

Yea but look at those numbers?

The game he gave up the 7 runs was hes mulligan game.
The other 2 games he only gave up 3 and 2 ER in those games.

He pitched well, and BTW. The Tigers were playing some really bad baseball during all 3 of those starts last year. The Tigers really feel off the wagon after the allstar break. Almost missed out on the playoffs altogether after having one of the best 1st half runs in recent memory

Betting4Fun · Jul 1, 2007

CHOPTALK said:
Yea but look at those numbers?

The game he gave up the 7 runs was hes mulligan game.
The other 2 games he only gave up 3 and 2 ER in those games.

He pitched well, and BTW. The Tigers were playing some really bad baseball during all 3 of those starts last year. The Tigers really feel off the wagon after the allstar break. Almost missed out on the playoffs altogether after having one of the best 1st half runs in recent memory

Thanks for the prompt response and sharing your opinion,i'll see how i feel tomorrow i guess ,glad to see you picked that side though,BOL with all your plays :toast:

Sprinky · Jul 1, 2007

CHOPTALK said:
You know, the more I think about it, the more I love this under in the Braves game. Carlye shut the marlins out last time he faced them on 1 hit, and Willis has been hell on the Braves.

Careful Chop, careful! But good luck anyway. :missingte :missingte :missingte

PrimoÃ…Â¾ · Jul 1, 2007

GOOD LUCK CHOP

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gynecologist · Jul 1, 2007

CHOPTALK said:
156-131 +$5088.00 +50.8 Units Ytd

:modemman: :thumbsup: :nohead:

ope:

winitall · Jul 1, 2007

Thanks for the early post Chop..... I'm gonna sleep past the start of most of those games, i can go to sleep easy knowing i put your picks in tonight...
I like the cards pick, i can remember many times where a team that burned me large one day came back to win the next... good luck today CT!

yanni_gogolak · Jul 1, 2007

u got pooped on, nice call on the dogs, but.. ah well, i appreciate checking your picks

CHOPTALK · Jul 1, 2007

yanni_gogolak said:
u got pooped on, nice call on the dogs, but.. ah well, i appreciate checking your picks

can we have a translator.

Thanks in advance.

And good luck I guess

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