NFL without PINNACLE ..............
<HR style="COLOR: #fdde82" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->Been doing some early homework , and am wondering what most here are going to do come Football season ?? Without reduced juice, dropdown boxes , the hassle of moving funds etc. , what are the the options yu guys are considering this upcomig season?? Let's face it , laying -110 (or more) just 'aint gonna cut it, if you lay -110 every week ,you will not win ,plain a simple math fact, unless you are VERY GOOD. For me personally , the loss of certain options I could only get at PINN during baseball , (eg TT'S, 5 inning lines etc.), REALLY hurt my bottom line this year , to the point it became an exercise in futility. Now I know thats not the ONLY reason , but in going over my records the prev two years for example , approx. 40% of my earn was from TT's , I know a few books still offer them , but w/o NETELLER I have no desire to wait weeks for a payout, so availed myself of the only debit card shop out there. This however , put me in a box w/ regard to the wagering options avail at his book , and I was pretty much forced to take whatever their best number was, even if it was not one I was looking for. I know that MB was good as far as finding the best number , but again , cash flow is a priority for me , so tying up a lot of money at a book was not appealing to me , I like to have access to my money WHEN I WANT IT , not a check that takes weeks to arrive , and takes days to clear my bank, not too mention red flags if too many start hittin come football. I think it would be naive to think that the fed gov't will not be watching the direction the offshore world will take come the first full season w/o NETELLER and I have seriousoncerns this upcoming season w/ the offshore industry.
Are we going to be forced to choke on -110 , or go back to the dinosaur ages and have runners all over Vegas trying to shop openers just to gain a smal edge, or resort to your old local dealing shit lines, and meets up w/ you weekly to settle , knowing you are forced to take whatevere is dealing? I mean , who here feels your money is never TRULY safe offshore now , considering the events of the past few months .
My feeling was, somebody w/ the balls to stand up to an arrogant and self-righteous US gov't would step into the breach , esp. in light of the WTO's ruling against the US in their appeal of the WTO'S initial ruling against them . That has not happened, though there may be a workaround yet to be disclosed. Considering the scope and sheer demand come football , why has there not been SOMETHING done to fill a demand that is clearly there ??? Is there NOBODY w/ the balls and financial wherewithall to fil this need ?? Seems unbelievable to me that w/ less than two months before the season is set to start , nobody has stepped up and takin a stand vs. the US, and their arrogant assumption that you cannot do w/ YOUR money as you see fit. For crissake , all they gotta do is look across the pond at the UK and see how profitable this could be FOR THEM if they chose to tax/regulate it, (although they would probaly fuk that up as bad as as they fuck up up every other thing they get their hands on)So, instead of copping a patendly absurd moral position that they are "protecting" us from terrorists and money launderers, why doesn't the us Gov't adopt the very concept that has made this one of the worlds most powerful countries on the planet , FREE MARKET ENTERPRISE, and apply it here ?? Are they too stupid ?? Do they not bet games, COME ON , the hypocrites that are supposed to answer to US , as the citizens who elect them to represent our interests, are instead doing the exact opposite. Did they learn nothing from the Volstead act banning liqour in the 1930's that allowed org. crime a free reign to fill a demand that was obviously not going away. Fuck ,if you want to outlaw something , outlaw tobacco , the nUmber one causeof heart disease and cancer in thiscountry !! In full disclosure, I smoke , but if they did outlaw cigarettes it wouldn't botherme a bit , as I would be priced out of the market by black market profiteers that I would not pay on principle alone , forget the cost !!!! The war on drugs has failed , the war on poverty has failed , the war on terror is a joke , and we as a country sit idly by and let these clowns dictate their version of morality to us !!!! When does the apathy end ?? When do we as citizenssay enough is enoughand take a stand ?? This country was founded on three common ideals ,LIFE ,LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT HAPPINESS. We left a country that dictaed tous what our religous belifs should be and what THE KING felt was moral or immorall
and founded a democarcy based on REPRESENTATIVE rule . But we as a people are allowing our leaders to slowly take away the very things this country was founded on, yet I hear no seious cries for reform , just a dumber and dumber nation of subservient people.
Anyway ,not too get off on a rant here , but was just curious as to waht the seroius guys here plan to this season , faced w/ these facts. I have worked in the past w/ a group of serious football "investors" and we are considering options, but I would really like some input from you guys as to your feelings and plans this upcomig season. I have heard some good ideas put forth by some pretty sharp guys and would aprreciate any and all thoughts you folks might have. Sorry for the rant , but ENOUGH is ENOUGH , IT'S MY FUCKING MONEY , and I should be allowed to do with it as I see fit in the land of the free and the home of the brave !!!!
Like I said , there are some options we a sa group are considering this season, but franky theyare cubersome and require a lotof tme and effort , so please ,take some time , give this some thought and please try to contributr your thoughts regarding these issues , and I will in turn share what we think is a workable plan.
"those who fail to remember history are doomed to repeat it" ,time to wake up folks , this is OUR gov't, we elect 'em ,we can and shouldbe heard !!!!!
<HR style="COLOR: #fdde82" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->Been doing some early homework , and am wondering what most here are going to do come Football season ?? Without reduced juice, dropdown boxes , the hassle of moving funds etc. , what are the the options yu guys are considering this upcomig season?? Let's face it , laying -110 (or more) just 'aint gonna cut it, if you lay -110 every week ,you will not win ,plain a simple math fact, unless you are VERY GOOD. For me personally , the loss of certain options I could only get at PINN during baseball , (eg TT'S, 5 inning lines etc.), REALLY hurt my bottom line this year , to the point it became an exercise in futility. Now I know thats not the ONLY reason , but in going over my records the prev two years for example , approx. 40% of my earn was from TT's , I know a few books still offer them , but w/o NETELLER I have no desire to wait weeks for a payout, so availed myself of the only debit card shop out there. This however , put me in a box w/ regard to the wagering options avail at his book , and I was pretty much forced to take whatever their best number was, even if it was not one I was looking for. I know that MB was good as far as finding the best number , but again , cash flow is a priority for me , so tying up a lot of money at a book was not appealing to me , I like to have access to my money WHEN I WANT IT , not a check that takes weeks to arrive , and takes days to clear my bank, not too mention red flags if too many start hittin come football. I think it would be naive to think that the fed gov't will not be watching the direction the offshore world will take come the first full season w/o NETELLER and I have seriousoncerns this upcoming season w/ the offshore industry.
Are we going to be forced to choke on -110 , or go back to the dinosaur ages and have runners all over Vegas trying to shop openers just to gain a smal edge, or resort to your old local dealing shit lines, and meets up w/ you weekly to settle , knowing you are forced to take whatevere is dealing? I mean , who here feels your money is never TRULY safe offshore now , considering the events of the past few months .
My feeling was, somebody w/ the balls to stand up to an arrogant and self-righteous US gov't would step into the breach , esp. in light of the WTO's ruling against the US in their appeal of the WTO'S initial ruling against them . That has not happened, though there may be a workaround yet to be disclosed. Considering the scope and sheer demand come football , why has there not been SOMETHING done to fill a demand that is clearly there ??? Is there NOBODY w/ the balls and financial wherewithall to fil this need ?? Seems unbelievable to me that w/ less than two months before the season is set to start , nobody has stepped up and takin a stand vs. the US, and their arrogant assumption that you cannot do w/ YOUR money as you see fit. For crissake , all they gotta do is look across the pond at the UK and see how profitable this could be FOR THEM if they chose to tax/regulate it, (although they would probaly fuk that up as bad as as they fuck up up every other thing they get their hands on)So, instead of copping a patendly absurd moral position that they are "protecting" us from terrorists and money launderers, why doesn't the us Gov't adopt the very concept that has made this one of the worlds most powerful countries on the planet , FREE MARKET ENTERPRISE, and apply it here ?? Are they too stupid ?? Do they not bet games, COME ON , the hypocrites that are supposed to answer to US , as the citizens who elect them to represent our interests, are instead doing the exact opposite. Did they learn nothing from the Volstead act banning liqour in the 1930's that allowed org. crime a free reign to fill a demand that was obviously not going away. Fuck ,if you want to outlaw something , outlaw tobacco , the nUmber one causeof heart disease and cancer in thiscountry !! In full disclosure, I smoke , but if they did outlaw cigarettes it wouldn't botherme a bit , as I would be priced out of the market by black market profiteers that I would not pay on principle alone , forget the cost !!!! The war on drugs has failed , the war on poverty has failed , the war on terror is a joke , and we as a country sit idly by and let these clowns dictate their version of morality to us !!!! When does the apathy end ?? When do we as citizenssay enough is enoughand take a stand ?? This country was founded on three common ideals ,LIFE ,LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT HAPPINESS. We left a country that dictaed tous what our religous belifs should be and what THE KING felt was moral or immorall
and founded a democarcy based on REPRESENTATIVE rule . But we as a people are allowing our leaders to slowly take away the very things this country was founded on, yet I hear no seious cries for reform , just a dumber and dumber nation of subservient people.
Anyway ,not too get off on a rant here , but was just curious as to waht the seroius guys here plan to this season , faced w/ these facts. I have worked in the past w/ a group of serious football "investors" and we are considering options, but I would really like some input from you guys as to your feelings and plans this upcomig season. I have heard some good ideas put forth by some pretty sharp guys and would aprreciate any and all thoughts you folks might have. Sorry for the rant , but ENOUGH is ENOUGH , IT'S MY FUCKING MONEY , and I should be allowed to do with it as I see fit in the land of the free and the home of the brave !!!!
Like I said , there are some options we a sa group are considering this season, but franky theyare cubersome and require a lotof tme and effort , so please ,take some time , give this some thought and please try to contributr your thoughts regarding these issues , and I will in turn share what we think is a workable plan.
"those who fail to remember history are doomed to repeat it" ,time to wake up folks , this is OUR gov't, we elect 'em ,we can and shouldbe heard !!!!!
