Monday Plays (56-54 +38.96 Units YTD) Been a tough two days

themanej2001 · Jul 16, 2007

56-54 +38.96 Units YTD

5 Units - 9-3 (+28.64 Units)
4 Units - 4-5 (-4.68)
3 Units - 15-9 (+24.42)
2 Units - 13-22 (-14.57)
1 Unit - 15-15 (+5.15)

LAD -139 (Penny) 3 Units Think Penny is the most undervalued pitcher in the game, at least by the books. His numbers are consistently low against average teams and pitchers. Think He is the only play in this game...

San Fran +124 (Lincecum) 2 Units Give me my boy again... He has not been good to me in the past but hoping he shows up and pitches like he has been lately... He has been flat out filthy and I think he can shut these Cubbies out tomorrow... but we'll see.

All I got for tomorrow... GL GUYS

5starbomb · Jul 16, 2007

Themanej when are you going to stop chasing the Cubs for a loss? This is not a good bet in my opinion. Hill can be lights out at times and Lincecum has struggled and is facing a red hot Cubs team. The Giants are old and arnt a good team. Im also against the Dodgers tomorrow... at least one of us will win

gabbana · Jul 16, 2007

good that the dodgers arent a 2 unit bet lol ..good luck today name.

themanej2001 · Jul 16, 2007

5 star bomb said:
Themanej when are you going to stop chasing the Cubs for a loss? This is not a good bet in my opinion. Hill can be lights out at times and Lincecum has struggled and is facing a red hot Cubs team. The Giants are old and arnt a good team. Im also against the Dodgers tomorrow... at least one of us will win

Wait... So I should bet on the Cubs every day because that is what you seem to think... I have probably bet against the Cubs 5 times this year...

How has Lincecum struggled...?

In his last three games he has thrown 20 innings given up 3 ER and has had 25K's with 7 Walks... once again how has he struggled... He is on fire right now...

I'm not chasing a Cub loss there is a lot of value in a pitcher that is pitching great baseball right now against a pitcher who has struggled as of late...

Smartass · Jul 16, 2007

On the Giants as well. I love how Lincecum has struggled lately, a 1.35 ERA last three NL starts as compared to Hill's stellar 12.00 ERA last three NL starts.

themanej2001 · Jul 16, 2007

Smartass said:
On the Giants as well. I love how Lincecum has struggled lately, a 1.35 ERA last three NL starts as compared to Hill's stellar 12.00 ERA last three NL starts.

Yeah but look out for the struggling Lincecum today...

5 Star knows his shit but when it comes to the Cubs he is extremely slanted.

5starbomb · Jul 16, 2007

themanej2001 said:
Yeah but look out for the struggling Lincecum today...

5 Star knows his shit but when it comes to the Cubs he is extremely slanted.

When I was referring to Lincecum I wasnt just talking about his past 3 starts. I was talking about his past 7 starts or so. He has looked better his past 3 outings giving up only 3 er all in his last outing. Before those 3 games he had a stretch of 4 games which totaled 18.2 innings pitched and 22 earned runs. So he was having a real tough time before his recent 3 game stretch. He is coming into Wrigley Field for the first time which is never easy, especially the way the Cubs are playing right now. I wouldnt say im extremely slanted, you have to recognize what the Cubs have been doing and have been the hottest team in baseball since Lou got ejected. They are 25-12 since that day and have been playing much better at home. All im trying to stay is I would stay away from the hot team right now. Rich Hill hasnt been throwing as good lately but hes capable of throwing a gem so I would be careful. Either way thats just my opinion, im also not a big fan of this Giants team anyway. Whats their average age like 35? This team is old and just not that good

themanej2001 · Jul 16, 2007

5 star bomb said:
When I was referring to Lincecum I wasnt just talking about his past 3 starts. I was talking about his past 7 starts or so. He has looked better his past 3 outings giving up only 3 er all in his last outing. Before those 3 games he had a stretch of 4 games which totaled 18.2 innings pitched and 22 earned runs. So he was having a real tough time before his recent 3 game stretch. He is coming into Wrigley Field for the first time which is never easy, especially the way the Cubs are playing right now. I wouldnt say im extremely slanted, you have to recognize what the Cubs have been doing and have been the hottest team in baseball since Lou got ejected. They are 25-12 since that day and have been playing much better at home. All im trying to stay is I would stay away from the hot team right now. Rich Hill hasnt been throwing as good lately but hes capable of throwing a gem so I would be careful. Either way thats just my opinion, im also not a big fan of this Giants team anyway. Whats their average age like 35? This team is old and just not that good

So Lincecum struggled 4 starts ago, or a month ago, so he is struggling right now... even those his last three outings have been dynamite... He is scuffling and is capable of getting lit up... but Rich Hill who truly has been struggling big time is capable of throwing a gem... haha?

5 Star sometimes your Cub write ups are humorous and make no sense. If he loses he loses but he is pitching great right now and Hill is pitching like shit....

5starbomb · Jul 16, 2007

themanej2001 said:
So Lincecum struggled 4 starts ago, or a month ago, so he is struggling right now... even those his last three outings have been dynamite... He is scuffling and is capable of getting lit up... but Rich Hill who truly has been struggling big time is capable of throwing a gem... haha?

5 Star sometimes your Cub write ups are humorous and make no sense. If he loses he loses but he is pitching great right now and Hill is pitching like shit....

We will have to agree to disagree, Rich Hill has been struggling lately and I think hes going to snap out of it tonight against the weak Giants offense. Lincecum is running into the hottest team in baseball on the road... not a good match up for the Giants if you ask me...

themanej2001 · Jul 16, 2007

5 star bomb said:
We will have to agree to disagree, Rich Hill has been struggling lately and I think hes going to snap out of it tonight against the weak Giants offense. Lincecum is running into the hottest team in baseball on the road... not a good match up for the Giants if you ask me...

So you gamble based on a hunch that a hot pitcher is going to go cold and the cold pitcher is going to get hot?

smartz · Jul 16, 2007

themanej2001 said:
So you gamble based on a hunch that a hot pitcher is going to go cold and the cold pitcher is going to get hot?

well you did with lincecum vs sheets a few weeks back

5starbomb · Jul 16, 2007

themanej2001 said:
So you gamble based on a hunch that a hot pitcher is going to go cold and the cold pitcher is going to get hot?

No, im not betting the Cubs/Giants game. I would pick the Cubs if I had to bet this game but im not betting it. I just dont think its a good spot for the Giants facing the hottest team in all of baseball with a rookie pitcher who has never pitched at Wrigley Field. When Hill is on he can be lights out. This game all depends on how Rich Hill does tonight

smartz · Jul 16, 2007

The only times Ive ever seen rich hill lights out are the two games at atlanta.

themanej2001 · Jul 16, 2007

5 star bomb said:
No, im not betting the Cubs/Giants game. I would pick the Cubs if I had to bet this game but im not betting it. I just dont think its a good spot for the Giants facing the hottest team in all of baseball with a rookie pitcher who has never pitched at Wrigley Field. When Hill is on he can be lights out. This game all depends on how Rich Hill does tonight

So theoretically speaking if both pitchers were on their game...

Would you say Lincecum is more filthy or Rich Hill

themanej2001 · Jul 16, 2007

smartz said:
well you did with lincecum vs sheets a few weeks back

Yeah But I'm a moron... and I admitted that I was just going on a hunch

5starbomb · Jul 16, 2007

themanej2001 said:
So theoretically speaking if both pitchers were on their game...

Would you say Lincecum is more filthy or Rich Hill

Well I dont want to sound ridiculous here bc I know Lincecum has a very high ceiling as far as potential goes. He has some sick stuff but I wouldnt put Rich Hill too far from him. Hill is very comparable to a younger Barry Zito, his Curve Ball is sick when hes not hanging em up in the strike zone.

Addict101 · Jul 16, 2007

Cubs suck, NL Central sucks, basically everything about the Cubs suck. End of story.

5starbomb · Jul 16, 2007

Addict101 said:
Cubs suck, NL Central sucks, basically everything about the Cubs suck. End of story.

Thanks for the awesome input. This will really help each other out in capping baseball games. Themanej just to let you know Bonds has been scratched from the lineup tonight.... I might throw a unit on the Cubs now

themanej2001 · Jul 16, 2007

5 star bomb said:
Thanks for the awesome input. This will really help each other out in capping baseball games. Themanej just to let you know Bonds has been scratched from the lineup tonight.... I might throw a unit on the Cubs now

Bonds has hurt this team not helped them lately...

And Rich Hill is talented but he is not as talented as Lincecum...

5starbomb · Jul 16, 2007

themanej2001 said:
Bonds has hurt this team not helped them lately...

And Rich Hill is talented but he is not as talented as Lincecum...

yeah lately he has but come on, haha you cant argue this is a good thing for Giants backers. Bonds still walks a shit load and can snap out of his hitting streak at any given time. I just realized this game is on ESPN which will add to some of the nerves Lincecum will have in his first game at Wrigley