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    Beef industry is extremely undustainable as well.. cow farts (methane) a big contributor .. not to mention all the land/resources they need to raise etc..

    there's so many things we do now that are simply unsustainable on 1000 year time scales..

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    Chickens coming home to roost for the corrupt Liberals

    Problem is we've still got to sort out pollution and ecosystem destruction, even if man-made global warming is bullshit


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    Penn State climate scientist, Michael ‘hockey stick’ Mann commits contempt of court in the ‘climate science trial of the century.’ Prominent alarmist shockingly defies judge and refuses to surrender data for open court examination. Only possible outcome: Mann’s humiliation, defeat and likely criminal investigation in the U.S.

    The defendant in the libel trial, the 79-year-old Canadian climatologist, Dr Tim Ball (above, right) is expected to instruct his British Columbia attorneys to trigger mandatory punitive court sanctions, including a ruling that Mann did act with criminal intent when using public funds to commit climate data fraud. Mann’s imminent defeat is set to send shock waves worldwide within the climate science community as the outcome will be both a legal and scientific vindication of U.S. President Donald Trump’s claims that climate scare stories are a “hoax.”

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    No idea why stocks keep going up


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    Quote Originally Posted by eek. View Post
    Chickens coming home to roost for the corrupt Liberals
    Eekster! So nice to see you here still!!

    Are you a conservative now?
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    I think a pragmatic realist cake would be more accurate, with a filling of socialist cream
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    Anyone who thinks there well be no such thing as 100$ oil again is sadly mistaken .
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHOPTALK View Post
    Anyone who thinks there well be no such thing as 100$ oil again is sadly mistaken .
    I missed the news today....are we starting a war I didnt hear about?

    I dont see it in the near future. I think it goes to mod 30's before the mid 50's.
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    This is the big test coming now, hopefully China will ban bitcoins.
    Then we will see whether Bitcoins etc are truly fit for purpose.

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    Top China Bitcoin exchange to stop trading

    One of China's biggest Bitcoin exchanges has said it will stop trading, after a government warning over virtual currencies.

    BTCC said it would stop buying and selling on 30 September in response to tightening regulation.

    It comes after authorities banned initial coin offerings on 5 September.

    The country has seen an explosion of digital currency trading, sparking fears about the financial risks and speculative investing.

    The price of Bitcoin tumbled sharply following the BTCC announcement late on Thursday but has since regained some ground.
    Cracking down

    Chinese authorities expressed concern over the investment risks involved in crypto-currencies and ordered a ban on initial coin offerings, or ICOs, earlier this month.

    A growing number of tech companies are opting to sell digital "tokens" to raise funds because they are quick, easy and unregulated.

    Then on Wednesday this week, the state-backed National Internet Finance Association issued a warning that virtual currencies are increasingly being used as a tool for illegal fundraising and money laundering.

    BTCC, one of the world's biggest Bitcoin platforms, said in a tweet Thursday after "carefully considering" the directive from regulators, trading on its platform would cease and it would stop registering new users from Thursday.

    BTCC also runs an international exchange from Hong Kong.

    More intervention is expected. The BTCC shutdown comes ahead of speculation that the Chinese government plans to completely ban exchanges.

    Reuters and other media have reported this week, citing sources, that China is planning the suspension, but the regulator has not yet made any such announcement.

    China's ICO ban, and wider fears of more regulation, has prompted a sell-off that has wiped billions of the value of crypto-currencies since they hit record highs at the start of the month.
    Currency risk

    Regulators around the world are in the midst of working out how to address some of the risks around virtual currencies.

    The UK's financial watchdog warned this week that ICOs are "very high-risk, speculative investments," while the US Securities and Exchange Commission said in July that some ICOs should be regulated like other stocks.

    Regulators in Singapore, Hong Kong and Canada have also pointed out some of the dangers.

    Digital currencies are also facing scrutiny from the private sector. This week JPMorgan chief executive Jamie Dimon branded Bitcoin a "fraud" and said it was set to "blow up".

    Mr Dimon told an investor conference in New York that if any of his traders were found trading Bitcoin he would "fire them in a second", and that Bitcoin was "worse than tulips bulbs", referring to a famous market bubble from the 1600s.

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    The flying drones putting workers out of a job

    Flying drones and robots now patrol distribution warehouses - they've become workhorses of the e-commerce era online that retailers can't do without. It is driving down costs but it is also putting people out of work: what price progress?

    It could be a scene from Blade Runner 2049; the flying drone hovers in the warehouse aisle, its spinning rotors filling the cavernous space with a buzzing whine.

    It edges close to the packages stacked on the shelf and scans them using onboard optical sensors, before whizzing off to its next assignment.

    But this is no sci-fi film, it's a warehouse in the US - one of around 250,000 throughout the country, many gargantuan in size: retail giant Walmart's smallest warehouse, for example, is larger than 17 football fields put together.

    And these automated drones are now doing the jobs humans - on foot, or operating fork-lift trucks and mechanical lifts - used to do: and they're doing them more cheaply and more accurately.

    "Every year companies lose billions of dollars due to misplaced items and faulty inventory records in their warehouses," says Fadel Adib, an assistant professor of media, arts and sciences at Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

    "Today's inventory management requires workers to scan items manually, which is a very time consuming and error-prone process. It's impossible to keep track of all items in the warehouse."

    Two drones can do the work of 100 humans over the same time period, according to supply chain specialist, Argon Consulting. This means they can do several tours of a warehouse - even at night - compare results, identify discrepancies, and build up a much more accurate picture much more quickly.

    Drone makers claim scanning accuracy of close to 100%.

    Matt Yearling, chief executive of Pinc, one of the firms offering such aerial robots, says they can save warehousing and logistics companies millions of dollars.

    "Nobody has 100% accuracy - including Walmart and Amazon," he says. "For a warehouse that is 95% accurate, it means that 5% is ambiguous. So if the warehouse is storing $100m [£75m] worth of inventory, then $5m is uncertain.

    "Typically the retailer will have more than one warehouse. So, if you multiply the problem across the warehouse network you are talking big dollars."

    Pinc's drones use hydrogen fuel cells, enabling them to fly for up to two hours - four times as long as some battery-powered drones.

    French firm Hardis Group has also launched an inventory-scanning drone - EyeSee - and emphasises how autonomous it is.

    "Flight orders and flight plan execution are ensured by our Android application," says Stephane Cadenet, manager of the firm's drone programme.

    "Our solution is simple to use: no installation, no infrastructure adaptation and no driver. The only thing to do is unpack the drone. The calculation of the flight plan is automatic."

    Other companies, such as Infinium Robotics, have also developed drone scanning systems.

    Of course, retailers have been using robots and automated systems in warehouses for some years. In 2012, fashion brand Net-A-Porter said its robot pickers were already 500% faster than humans.

    Online grocer Ocado believes it will not need any human labour at all within 10 years. And online retailer Amazon's Kiva robots have almost become famous.

    "Innovators are working to make drones and robots an integral part of warehousing, inventory, and logistics," says JP Gownder, a principal analyst at research firm Forrester.

    "Over the next 10 years, these technologies look set to revolutionise these spaces."

    But all this cost saving and efficiency comes at the expense of jobs for humans.

    The $2.3tn e-commerce industry is huge and growing, but almost 75% of e-commerce companies employ no more than four people.

    So it is no coincidence that in the US some 89,000 shop workers were laid off between October and April this year, while employment in New York City clothing stores has declined for three consecutive years.

    Forrester estimates that automation technologies, including artificial intelligence, will replace 17% of US jobs by 2027. And growth in new types of employment will not be enough to compensate.

    "Automation does create opportunities for new jobs - equivalent to 10% of today's jobs," says Mr Gownder.

    "But that still leads to a net 7% loss of jobs due to automation, which has to be made up by macro-economic growth, non-automation related jobs, and monetary policy."

    Ryan Bax, industry analyst for mobility at research consultancy Frost & Sullivan, concedes that the use of drones and robotics in warehousing will lead to job losses, but believes growth elsewhere will compensate for this.

    "As automation reduces the demand for lesser qualified jobs, the need for specialised skills within the logistics sector will grow," he maintains.

    And he thinks automation tech may even become mandatory once it has been shown to reduce accidents in the workplace.

    "The use of automated technologies will permit warehouses to operate 24-hour days and improve stock management accuracy, but beyond this they will provide significant benefits to safety within the workplace."

    This will be small comfort for the thousands of warehouse workers displaced by drones and robots, but it is the inevitable consequence of our desire for online convenience, cheaper prices and faster deliveries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eek. View Post
    Chickens coming home to roost for the corrupt Liberals

    Problem is we've still got to sort out pollution and ecosystem destruction, even if man-made global warming is bullshit


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    Penn State climate scientist, Michael ‘hockey stick’ Mann commits contempt of court in the ‘climate science trial of the century.’ Prominent alarmist shockingly defies judge and refuses to surrender data for open court examination. Only possible outcome: Mann’s humiliation, defeat and likely criminal investigation in the U.S.

    The defendant in the libel trial, the 79-year-old Canadian climatologist, Dr Tim Ball (above, right) is expected to instruct his British Columbia attorneys to trigger mandatory punitive court sanctions, including a ruling that Mann did act with criminal intent when using public funds to commit climate data fraud. Mann’s imminent defeat is set to send shock waves worldwide within the climate science community as the outcome will be both a legal and scientific vindication of U.S. President Donald Trump’s claims that climate scare stories are a “hoax.”

    http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/07/...ey-stick-mann/
    Charges filed in Mueller probe into Trump campaign collusion with Russia. Arrests happening on Monday.

    What's all this about corrupt liberals now?
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    Just checking in. Tizzy, how are you playing this bull market? All news is good news. If a meteor were heading straight for earth, the markets would jump 10 percent because of all the minerals we could mine from it.
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    Hope Tiz was buying instead of selling
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    Tizdoom may have gone ecowarrior on us

    The financial system depressed him enough but the ecological situation will really piss him off

    Anyways, have a nice xmas everybody and buy some litecoins if you haven't got any yet
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    Many places are there to buy cheap clothes in USA- https://casadimoda.us/ discount offers if you get to know the discount before going to that store place it’s easy to find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eek. View Post
    Tizdoom may have gone ecowarrior on us

    The financial system depressed him enough but the ecological situation will really piss him off

    Anyways, have a nice xmas everybody and buy some litecoins if you haven't got any yet
    Hope you made out well playing the crypto bubble eekster..

    market wasnt gonna give in till crypto bubble burst..

    crypto = dotcom of the 90s

    the bear cometh after a long hibernation

    let the fun begin..
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    Gonna be absolutely hysterical if market tops as yellen exits... she’s off to join Ben at brooking institute.. let trump’s republican appointee Powell take the heat ... also gotta love the GOP cutting taxes at bubble peak.. normally if u smart u save stuff like for when things get bad not add fuel to a bubble..

    yellens final act as she walks out the door... have fun suckers ben and yellen bubble over.. peace out!

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    Wells Fargo Hit With Unusual Ban on Growth in Yellen's Final Act

    More stories by Laura J KellerFebruary 2, 2018, 6:15 PM EST
    After markets closed on her final workday in office, Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen delivered a blow to one of the nation’s largest banks: Wells Fargo & Co. won’t be allowed to grow until it cleans up.
    Fed officials said the San Francisco-based lender’s pattern of consumer abuses and compliance lapses called for an unprecedented sanction. Until Wells Fargo addresses shortcomings in areas including internal oversight, it can’t take any action that would boost total assets beyond their level at the end of 2017, without the Fed’s permission. The stock slumped in late trading Friday.
    “This is akin to the last scene in ‘The Godfather,”’ said Isaac Boltansky, an analyst at Compass Point Research & Trading. “Chair Yellen decided to handle unfinished business on her way out the door.”
    It’s been a long time coming. Wells Fargo began stumbling through a spate of scandals 17 months ago, starting with revelations that branch employees opened millions of accounts without customer permission to meet aggressive sales targets. The company kept coming under fire after revealing that auto-loan clients were forced to pay for unwanted car insurance and that mortgage customers were improperly charged fees.
    Hours Left

    On Friday night, Fed officials said they had been working on their order for a while, and that the company had just finally agreed to it. The announcement came hours before Yellen’s term was to expire, hitting the biggest bank in her former district. She was president of the San Francisco Fed from 2004 to 2010.
    Regulators can’t allow “pervasive and persistent misconduct at any bank,” Yellen said in a statement. She also sent a letter on Friday to Senator Elizabeth Warren, a Democrat who’s among the bank’s most prominent critics.
    “The firm has much to do to earn back the trust of its customers, supervisors, investors and the public,” Yellen told the lawmaker. The growth restriction “is unique and more stringent than the penalties the Board has imposed against other bank holding companies for similar unsafe and unsound practices.”
    Warren replied in a statement: “Her decision today demonstrates that we have the tools to rein in Wall Street -- if our regulators have the guts to use them.”
    ‘More Work’

    Wells Fargo’s assets are now capped at $1.95 trillion. Fed officials say the lender is welcome to continue taking deposits and lending to customers, but it must stay below the limit. The firm’s compliance will be measured as an average of assets over two quarters, according to the regulator.
    The Fed set a Sept. 30 deadline for the bank to outline reforms and have them reviewed by an outside firm. The asset cap can be lifted before the rest of the order is satisfied.
    Even after improvements the bank made in the past 17 months, Fed officials “believe there is more work to be done, and we agree,” Chief Executive Officer Timothy Sloan told analysts on a conference call Friday night.
    Sloan took charge in late 2016 and has spent much of his tenure apologizing to customers and employees, vowing to restore confidence in the bank. In a presentation Friday night, he and Chief Financial Officer John Shrewsberry kept a cool focus on numbers.
    Avoiding Growth

    Options for preventing asset growth include limiting deposits from companies and other banks, and dialing back trading assets and other short-term investments, the presentation showed. It projected profits might be cut by as much as $400 million, or less than 2 percent of last year’s $22.2 billion of net income.
    Executives still plan to increase the amount of capital returned to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases beyond the $14.5 billion that investors reaped in 2017. And they’re sticking with cost-cutting targets that include shaving about $4 billion in annual expenses by the end of 2019.
    Last year, Wells Fargo spent $3.9 billion on costs related to risk management alone, Sloan said. But executives aren’t expecting a surge in expenses from outside consultants or, for now, to boost their estimate of reasonably possible legal losses. “There’s nothing here. There’s no settlement amount or civil money penalty or anything like that,” Shrewsberry said.
    Yet more changes are pending atop the bank. Four members of the company’s board are to be replaced by the end of the year, expanding an overhaul of the panel, the Fed said Friday.
    Wells Fargo elected six independent directors in 2017, and three other people plan to retire before an annual shareholders meeting, the company said. Nine current board members including Chairman Betsy Duke were on the panel before the scandals began erupting. After planned replacements this year, five may remain.
    Oscar Suris, a company spokesman, declined to name which directors may leave. Enrique Hernandez, Lloyd Dean and John Chen have been directors for more than a decade.
    ‘Substantial Harm’

    The Fed instructed the bank’s board to engage in more intrusive oversight of Wells Fargo’s senior managers and come up with a plan to hold them accountable if they fall short. The board also was ordered to detail its plan to overhaul how the bank pays senior executives and how they’ll be punished if they violate bank policies or government rules, or enable “adverse risk outcomes.” Wells Fargo’s compensation programs, the Fed said, played a large role in the bank’s compliance failures.
    “The firm’s lack of effective oversight and control of compliance and operational risks contributed in material ways to the substantial harm suffered,” the Fed’s supervision director, Michael Gibson, said in a separate letter to the board.
    Wells Fargo paid $185 million to resolve the initial sales scandal. The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency -- the primary regulator for the firm’s banking operations -- soon followed up with more sanctions, including its own effort to squeeze the lender’s growth in late 2016.
    Late last year, the OCC told the bank’s board that authorities may take additional enforcement actions over the auto insurance and mortgage improprieties, people familiar with the situation said.
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    Glad to see you're doing ok Tizdoom

    I'm assuming that interest rate rumours have spooked market insiders

    (When I saw that the markets were dropping I thought I'd check up in here for you lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by eek. View Post
    Glad to see you're doing ok Tizdoom

    I'm assuming that interest rate rumours have spooked market insiders

    (When I saw that the markets were dropping I thought I'd check up in here for you lol)
    Crypto bubble was the missing piece to the final blowoff of the everything bubble.. now that it popped everything will follow..

    like the 90s dotcom stuff blockchain has a bright future but got wayyyy ahead of itself..

    stock market went on a record 318 trading days without back to back 0.5% declines till last week.. insane lack of volatility in the final phase of the latest bubble..

    i tip my cap to ben and yellen.. they blew it up wayyyy more than I could have ever imagined..

    now let trump, republican congress, and fellow republican Powell deal with the fallout.. and they already blew their wad with tax cut lol.. gonna be an interesting 3 years thatís for sure...
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    Why do you see the crypto bubble blowoff as a catalyst?

    I agree a lot of it's runup has to do with global central banking and monetary policy but I don't really think it is a catalyst for a large scale correction. Just don't see the correlation.

    You still like ETH Tiz?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFan1283 View Post
    Why do you see the crypto bubble blowoff as a catalyst?

    I agree a lot of it's runup has to do with global central banking and monetary policy but I don't really think it is a catalyst for a large scale correction. Just don't see the correlation.

    You still like ETH Tiz?
    just needed some sort of utter insanity blowoff event to top this economic cycle.. crypto was it..

    like the dotcom days many many scams out there that are completely worthless... most will become worthless.. the ones that have value long term will survive..

    i like eth a lot long term.. near term just watching everything crash..have the most genius developers working on it by far.. and they arenít about the money grab.. they want to attempt to take down the apples Amazonís googles facebooks of the world .. even zuckerburg starting to admit he created a monster lol.. and destroy/disrupt centralization of data.. I wish them wel and rooting for them.. the big issue is how do u scale and keep fees low..

    Check out cryptocribs.com .. ethereum based system.. put stand end to Airbnb middleman nonsense.. limitless possibilities for eth.. Bitcoin is one singular application of blockchain..
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    Early Facebook and Google Employees Form Coalition to Fight What They Built

    Feb. 4, 2018

    With smartphones, “they’ve got you for every waking moment,” said Roger McNamee, an early investor in Facebook and a member of the new Center for Humane Technology.Karsten Moran for The New York TimesSAN FRANCISCO — A group of Silicon Valley technologists who were early employees at Facebook and Google, alarmed over the ill effects of social networks and smartphones, are banding together to challenge the companies they helped build.
    The cohort is creating a union of concerned experts called the Center for Humane Technology. Along with the nonprofit media watchdog group Common Sense Media, it also plans an anti-tech addiction lobbying effort and an ad campaign at 55,000 public schools in the United States.
    The campaign, titled The Truth About Tech, will be funded with $7 million from Common Sense and capital raised by the Center for Humane Technology. Common Sense also has $50 million in donated media and airtime from partners including Comcast and DirecTV. It will be aimed at educating students, parents and teachers about the dangers of technology, including the depression that can come from heavy use of social media.
    “We were on the inside,” said Tristan Harris, a former in-house ethicist at Google who is heading the new group. “We know what the companies measure. We know how they talk, and we know how the engineering works.”
    The effect of technology, especially on younger minds, has become hotly debated in recent months. In January, two big Wall Street investors asked Apple to study the health effects of its products and to make it easier to limit children’s use of iPhones and iPads. Pediatric and mental health experts called on Facebook last week to abandon a messaging service the company had introduced for children as young as 6. Parenting groups have also sounded the alarm about YouTube Kids, a product aimed at children that sometimes features disturbing content.
    “The largest supercomputers in the world are inside of two companies — Google and Facebook — and where are we pointing them?” Mr. Harris said. “We’re pointing them at people’s brains, at children.”
    Silicon Valley executives for years positioned their companies as tight-knit families and rarely spoke publicly against one another. That has changed. Chamath Palihapitiya, a venture capitalist who was an early employee at Facebook, said in November that the social network was “ripping apart the social fabric of how society works.”
    The new Center for Humane Technology includes an unprecedented alliance of former employees of some of today’s biggest tech companies. Apart from Mr. Harris, the center includes Sandy Parakilas, a former Facebook operations manager; Lynn Fox, a former Apple and Google communications executive; Dave Morin, a former Facebook executive; Justin Rosenstein, who created Facebook’s Like button and is a co-founder of Asana; Roger McNamee, an early investor in Facebook; and Renťe DiResta, a technologist who studies bots.
    The group expects its numbers to grow. Its first project to reform the industry will be to introduce a Ledger of Harms — a website aimed at guiding rank-and-file engineers who are concerned about what they are being asked to build. The site will include data on the health effects of different technologies and ways to make products that are healthier.
    Jim Steyer, chief executive and founder of Common Sense, said the Truth About Tech campaign was modeled on antismoking drives and focused on children because of their vulnerability. That may sway tech chief executives to change, he said. Already, Apple’s chief executive, Timothy D. Cook, told The Guardian last month that he would not let his nephew on social media, while the Facebook investor Sean Parker also recently said of the social network that “God only knows what it’s doing to our children’s brains.”
    Mr. Steyer said, “You see a degree of hypocrisy with all these guys in Silicon Valley.”
    The new group also plans to begin lobbying for laws to curtail the power of big tech companies. It will initially focus on two pieces of legislation: a bill being introduced by Senator Edward J. Markey, Democrat of Massachusetts, that would commission research on technology’s impact on children’s health, and a bill in California by State Senator Bob Hertzberg, a Democrat, which would prohibit the use of digital bots without identification.
    Mr. McNamee said he had joined the Center for Humane Technology because he was horrified by what he had helped enable as an early Facebook investor.
    “Facebook appeals to your lizard brain — primarily fear and anger,” he said. “And with smartphones, they’ve got you for every waking moment.”
    He said the people who made these products could stop them before they did more harm.
    “This is an opportunity for me to correct a wrong,” Mr. McNamee said.
    A version of this article appears in print on February 5, 2018, on Page B6 of the New York edition with the headline: Early Facebook and Google Employees Form Coalition to Fight What They Built. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe
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    P.s. pull up a 10 year gold chart bullish a setup as it gets.. 6-7 years of consolidation and now ready to run as the everything bubble (bubble burst #3 of the 2000s) bursts.. secular gold bull which began in 2000 when bubble #1 began to pop still intact..

    back to my cave for me..

    this one gonna get messy..
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiznow View Post
    P.s. pull up a 10 year gold chart bullish a setup as it gets.. 6-7 years of consolidation and now ready to run as the everything bubble (bubble burst #3 of the 2000s) bursts.. secular gold bull which began in 2000 when bubble #1 began to pop still intact..

    back to my cave for me..

    this one gonna get messy..

    If there was a market downturn why do you think Gold would run when it didn't in 2008? It didn't go down as much as the S&P but it did go from like 900 to 700 in that time frame.
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    They're kind of right, but using children as an excuse as an early effort to limit the power of groups in this new connected society

    The French Revolution originated in coffee shops. Sober people with an axe to grind eventually turned against their own system.
    No such issues arose in Britain because the Brits closed all the coffee shops and kept the bars open so only pissed people with an axe to grind were left.

    Pubs were open pretty much 24/7 for the masses right up until 1914 when people getting pissed started to impact directly on the war effort

    Social media has the power to organise and generate far more momentum than any political party ever could and the system is quite rightly worried at how this could pan out over the next 30 years
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFan1283 View Post
    If there was a market downturn why do you think Gold would run when it didn't in 2008? It didn't go down as much as the S&P but it did go from like 900 to 700 in that time frame.
    30 year bond bubble toast too..

    and us keeps racking up the debt and has all these entitlements to pay baby boomers who want to live to 100

    No where else to go..

    classic consolifation triangle setup after a big run from 200 to 1900 on the 10 year chart
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