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    This was all inevitable folks .. like the last two it was clearly a bubble and just a matter of when..

    market due for a bounce soon but it will be bear market choppy stuff.. it will be another big one like 2000 and 2007.. this time the big problem is corporate debt.. many big corporations feasted on zirp policies for a decade to buyback stock and fluff their numbers

    this one lasted a lot longer than I expected.. thought whoever got POTUS was gonna have to deal with bad economy/recession.almost immediately.. what happened though is trump/republicans did the insane thing and cut taxes and exploded deficits as well as got people/small businesses overly enthusiastic at a time they shouldnít be doing so.. now itís game over.. deficits explode more.. corporations mainly used it to fluff numbers and buyback stock at the worst time to do it.. no tax cut ammo left now so fallout will be worse..

    us just done.. middle class is toast.. bubble creation and massive amount of debting is all we do anymore.. with each fed boom/bust cycle the average joe keeps falling further behind.. while rich get richer..

    if you want to know the nitty gritty details of why this is all happening read hussman.. like me he was wayyyyy too early as far as timing of when this 3rd fed bubble burst..

    his lastest bubbles and hot potatoes...

    https://www.hussmanfunds.com/comment/mc181128/
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    Trump and Powell are the fall guys..

    Obama who was a complete puppet to the one party establishment/status quo + ben-yellen fed created the latest problem/bubble. That along with american citizens and corporations who were dumbenough to take the cheap debt bait and yet again create another massive bubble.
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    Couldn't agree more with TIZ . I would add Capitalism as part of the list of who or what to blame for the collapse coming

    Sadly I think this ends with a Socialist as our next President
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    Welcome back Tiz

    Sadly I think this ends with a Socialist as our next President

    I think the US view of Socialist and a real socialist policy(Any policy) are a bit different
    Maybe a bit more Liberal would be more accurate
    Even your Democrats are happy to leave tens of millions with no healthcare

    Anyway, interesting times ahead methinks
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    The more Iíve contemplated this all the more I come to the conclusion all this stuff is just inevitable and part of human nature...

    empires eventually grow too centralized and rot/brainwashed from within.. its hilarious watching the one party establishment freaking out about trump pulling troops from Syria and Afghanistan.. yet running nearly trillion dollar deficits while at full employment is perfectly normal..

    capitalism not to blame.. free market capitalism hasnít existed for long time.. system we have now is crony capitalism with a good deal of socialism tossed in..

    but yeah thats where itís all headed for us long term brucefan.. US becoming Mexico north.. middle class will continue to get eradicated.. and poor leftys/minorities etc can cheerlead their well polished well spoken Obama types as the status quo laugh their asses off and rich get richer...

    libertarians like Ron Paul tried to warn and take over GOP but we got trump instead lmfao.. now itís way too late and GOP is a complete joke.. the neocons (liberals basically) created a one party system of big always expanding government that was the end of the strong middle class US.. our foreign policy and the military industrial complex that eisenhowser warned us about is bankrupting us slowly but surely.. think we now past point of no return.. and massive societal inequality in the US is here to stay.
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    Tiz nice to see you, any update on BTG?

    I might speculate on a few other miners as well if you got any.

    Interesting times ahead
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    What is the odds of Trump impeachment in 2019? Mueller pretty much has Trump cronies in his bag...Flynn, Cohen, Manafort. I’ll would be paying very close attention to his final report expected to release in mid or late Feb. Trump does not seem to have many friends on Rep side nowadays. Trump impeachment is a Black Swan event the mother bears have been waiting for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snoop View Post
    What is the odds of Trump impeachment in 2019? Mueller pretty much has Trump cronies in his bag...Flynn, Cohen, Manafort. I’ll would be paying very close attention to his final report expected to release in mid or late Feb. Trump does not seem to have many friends on Rep side nowadays. Trump impeachment is a Black Swan event the mother bears have been waiting for.
    It’s all a circus to distract from important issues and inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.. this bubble was created long again and it’s collapse has nothing to do with trump or whoever is POTUS..

    look at the Middle East only way to keep massive inequality going and somewhat stable.. is to create bullshit division along with massive socialism..

    in the US .. left/right is being radicalized in order to distract the average joe’s from the true enemy.. poor whites are right.. poor minorities immigrants on the left.. as elite concentrate more control and wealth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFan1283 View Post
    Tiz nice to see you, any update on BTG?

    I might speculate on a few other miners as well if you got any.

    Interesting times ahead
    btg operationally is doing quite well and has held its ground much better than the other gold miners.. should take off if gold ever can break out (think it will soon once it becomes crystal clear fed will be forced to reverse course and head back to ZIRP)
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    Schiff been pumping out pods 1x a day lately with all the turbulence. I've listened to most of them, didn't really listen much for awhile because it was so repetitive and nothing was really happening.

    Starting to see some of the bigger names in finance turn bearish as well. Greenspan called for stagflation a few days ago, Gundlach said he thinks we're entering a bear market on CNBC (Cramer saying "stick to bonds" then apologizing a few days later was hilarious, what a clown)

    Still think fed will step in with ZIRP/QE rather than let equities dive. They won't wait for GDP to turn bad, it's too much of a lagging indicator.
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    It won’t matter if they reverse course/how fast they do it.. they always do as SHTF.. markets still end up 50%+ lower than the top.. it’s already baked in by past policy mistakes.. read hussman’s articles.. so well explained in gory detail.. if you really want to understand what’s going on..
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    Even Rome collapsed

    and they had no real competition

    Greed and corruption is in the genes, there's always one group of monkeys who want all the bananas
    All you can do is try to protect yourself from the worst of it

    plus Áa change, plus c'est la mÍme chose
    The more things change the more they stay the same

    You usually end up with revolution politics, Trump is a symptom of this
    The more inequality you get the more pronounced this becomes
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    I think markets are hugely over valued

    The Dow has caught up with the Nikkei which would be bonkers 25+ years ago

    A 50% correction is essential for fiscal sanity IMO
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    The one thing they are all petrified of is Digital currencies

    Marshall Islands warned against adopting digital currency
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-45485685

    60,000 people literally in the middle of nowhere and the big boys still get antsy if there's even a hint of an independent digital currency

    It did occur to me while I was watching the Dow nosedive that they can crash the system
    but they can't touch my coins

    In the real world the rich seem to have adopted the swiss franc as the safe haven for money
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    Quote Originally Posted by eek. View Post
    Going totally anti combustion here

    The diesel car market is going down the toilet and cities are gearing up to ban combustion vehicles

    Oil looks like it's going the way of coal in the more advanced societies

    No doubt it will adapt but easy street looks like its gone
    I like energy at this level. HAL/DVN/OXY will run up fast when oil rebound.

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    Here comes the rally I was expecting as markets were very oversold near term.... bear markets are always huge roller coasters with many sharp hope rallies along the way..
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    There are still a lot of headwinds going into 2019

    Trump Trade War
    Fed Rate Hike
    QE Runnoff
    Japan/Europe recession

    The biggest risk is a possible Trump impeachment. If there are dirts from Mueller report, I think the Dem will move forward trying to screw Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eek. View Post
    They market could be jumpy about these tit for tat arrests with the US/Canada and China
    Plus Donald is shutting down the gov for a while
    One of them could face death penalty in China - drug smuggling.

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    Hello old friends, is this the longest bear market in history or what? Has to be at least 10 years now

    Happy New Year boys, stay safe








    PS: Love the fact that this thread is still going, seriously
    Living & loving life, despite the bumps. Always stay humble and kind.
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    Some classic names found in this thread, I miss a bunch of those guys too
    Living & loving life, despite the bumps. Always stay humble and kind.
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    We come and we go, such is life
    The only thing that stays the same is that things change

    Have a prosperous New Year Wullie
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    Interesting times ahead, opportunities opening up

    Big question is:
    When is the bottom?

    Bottoms much harder to predict than tops
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    Bottom isn't far and the opportunity to buy index funds will be very good.
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    We will get to a over sold situation once the crazy goes away. 18900 on the DOW. The market will go up but not much. Trade the drops, it will hit a low, buy a couple out of the money calls, it will bounce back 400 to 1000, the sell and buy puts. It's doing this every day.
    EUROPE WILL BE IN A RECESSION. WE HAVE WALL STREET.

    S&P 500: Today @ 2386 to 2430/ Buy calls. Sell @ 2560 to 2500
    Turn around and buy Puts @ 2542 to 2525....................sell at the end of the day. Give or take 50 to 75 points.
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