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MIDDLEBOROUGH, Mass. (AP) — Voters overwhelmingly endorsed a deal with an American Indian tribe Saturday that could bring casino gambling to the state and millions of dollars to the struggling, rural community.
Residents gathered at a quintessential rural New England event, the Town Meeting, and voted 2,387 to 1,335 in favor of the Mashpee Wampanoag tribe's $1 billion casino in this town of about 20,000.
In exchange, the town would receive $250 million in infrastructure improvements and an estimated $11 million in annual payments, among other benefits.
Significant hurdles remain, however. The tribe, which officially received federal recognition in May after more than three decades of fighting for it, still needs state and federal approval for the casino.
Saturday's vote came after about 2½ hours of debate on an athletic field behind the high school where residents gathered for the historic Town Meeting. Residents carted in lawn chairs, food and umbrellas.
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Casino advocates argued it was a lucrative deal and a tremendous opportunity for the struggling town. Opponents said the deal wasn't generous enough and was reached without sufficient public input.
Michelle Holden, 45, planned to reluctantly vote for a casino deal she called inevitable — the tribe owns the necessary land and can build so long as it secures state and federal approval, she said.
The tribe has bought 125 acres of town land, has an option to buy another 200 contiguous acres and has approached another landowner about a 200-acre abutting tract.
If nothing else, Holden hoped the extra revenue could help the town restore services it previously cut, such as freshman sports for her 16-year-old son.
"I don't really want the casinos here, but it's coming," she said. "We might as well benefit."
Russ Burns, 67, said the tribe deserves a casino because tribe has suffered for centuries.
Before the Colonial era, it thrived along the Nemasket River, which winds through town. The tribe's presence dwindled after King Philip's War, a 17th-century conflict that pitted the allies of a Wampanoag chief against Colonial authorities across New England.
"We took everything," said Burns, who is white. "Now they want to make a couple of dollars. We're going to say you can't do that, either?"
Pat Harnett, 52, said she intended to support the casino proposal until driving to Connecticut on Friday to speak with about a dozen people who live and work near the Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods tribal casinos.
Harnett said that a waitress spoke about a gambling addiction that wrecked her marriage and that others warned that casinos bring jobs, but not always for local residents.
"It's just too rushed," Harnett said.




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why do states keep passing laws to allow indian casinos, instead of just passing laws to make casinos legal?. When states do this they miss out on collecting massive amounts of taxes on everything in a casino and instead endup taking a small percentage of just the slots.
Reason this keeps happening in every state is because the friggin corrupt politicians are taking huge bribes from the indians to allow indian casinos, where as if they just legalized casinos the corrupt politicans wouldnt be getting a dime from anybody.
Honestly when are the people in this country gonna wake up and see that they are getting screwed in every state with all these indian casinos?
The amount of taxes states are giving up by not letting real casinos come in, is hugeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
Everytime i read about another state allowing the indians to open a casino, i just want to friggin throwup.
Politicians are laughing all the way to the bank.
 

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Another state with Indian gambling. I don't play in Indian casinos, I don't trust them. But there are plenty of suckers that do.

I had people arguing with me in Arizona that the dealer hitting on soft 17 is better for the player. Gamblers by and large are ignorant. They don't read the rules on the table.
 

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why do states keep passing laws to allow indian casinos, instead of just passing laws to make casinos legal?. When states do this they miss out on collecting massive amounts of taxes on everything in a casino and instead endup taking a small percentage of just the slots.
Reason this keeps happening in every state is because the friggin corrupt politicians are taking huge bribes from the indians to allow indian casinos, where as if they just legalized casinos the corrupt politicans wouldnt be getting a dime from anybody.
Honestly when are the people in this country gonna wake up and see that they are getting screwed in every state with all these indian casinos?
The amount of taxes states are giving up by not letting real casinos come in, is hugeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
Everytime i read about another state allowing the indians to open a casino, i just want to friggin throwup.
Politicians are laughing all the way to the bank.

mass. will want a biger piece of the pie, and we will see a huge casino at suffolk downs soon
 

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mass. will want a biger piece of the pie, and we will see a huge casino at suffolk downs soon


thats wishful thinking, but indian casinos only give a percentage of the slots. The states miss out on all the table game action, taxes on food, drinks,hotel rooms etc etc etc.
Iam just surpised more people in every state havent figured out what poiliticnas are doing. Its like the people are just so happy to get a casino in their state they dont care that they are being handed a raw deal.
There are people that have already predicted that in the next 10-20 years the indians will be the strongest lobbying group in government.
It really is a shame that we have corrupt politicians in every state running everything and getting fat in the process.
Where i live, our city and state turned over our most prime land right in the middle of the city to the indians so they could build casino and become rich on the backs of taxpayers. Total friggin joke we gave our land away for nothing and 50 acres is now tax free for the indians, All because of corrupt politicians taking huge amounts of cash from the indians who dont have to account for their cash at all.
 

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I remember 20-25 years or so ago, the town of Hull was contemplating putting a casino at the site of Paragon Park, which had recently closed. This had nothing to do with Indian tribes. The town eventually voted against the idea. It's interesting to think of what gaming in New England would look like today had the town approved it.

Also, no doubt lobbyists from Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun have been paying off MA politicians for years to keep canino gaming out.
 

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I remember 20-25 years or so ago, the town of Hull was contemplating putting a casino at the site of Paragon Park, which had recently closed. This had nothing to do with Indian tribes. The town eventually voted against the idea. It's interesting to think of what gaming in New England would look like today had the town approved it.

Also, no doubt lobbyists from Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun have been paying off MA politicians for years to keep canino gaming out.

I have a beach house in Hull, MA. A casino would have been welcome.
 

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I've been following this a lot and it will be interesting. The same crew that financed Mohegan Sun's creation is supposed to be behind this place. It's bound to be a hit in drawing lots of summer tourists in MA/RI. Not sure how well it will work out the rest of the year though.
 

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I remember 20-25 years or so ago, the town of Hull was contemplating putting a casino at the site of Paragon Park, which had recently closed. This had nothing to do with Indian tribes. The town eventually voted against the idea. It's interesting to think of what gaming in New England would look like today had the town approved it.

Also, no doubt lobbyists from Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun have been paying off MA politicians for years to keep canino gaming out.

Cut Across,

I grew up in Hull and you're almost correct. MGM Grand bought property about a mile from Paragon at what used to be the Hall Estate, but it is now some high end condos (south of the beach on Rt 228, going toward West Corner). I lived between Paragon and the Hall Estate and, even though I was a teenager at the time, I was pretty excited. One of my buddies even moved to Vegas and went to dealer school to get a head start. (He's still there.)

My father was involved in local politics and he was hired by MGM as one of the local lobbyists. He passed away recently and I found a lot of pro-casino stuff in some of his old files. If I remember correctly, the bill that was turned down by voters would have allowed casino gambling in Hull and the town of North Adams, located at the far northwest corner of the state. I can't believe you remember that--few people do.

My only issue with Middleborough is that it's a one way in/one way out kind of town. They're going to need some roads--and quick.
 

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Cut Across,

I grew up in Hull and you're almost correct. MGM Grand bought property about a mile from Paragon at what used to be the Hall Estate, but it is now some high end condos (south of the beach on Rt 228, going toward West Corner). I lived between Paragon and the Hall Estate and, even though I was a teenager at the time, I was pretty excited. One of my buddies even moved to Vegas and went to dealer school to get a head start. (He's still there.)

My father was involved in local politics and he was hired by MGM as one of the local lobbyists. He passed away recently and I found a lot of pro-casino stuff in some of his old files. If I remember correctly, the bill that was turned down by voters would have allowed casino gambling in Hull and the town of North Adams, located at the far northwest corner of the state. I can't believe you remember that--few people do.

My only issue with Middleborough is that it's a one way in/one way out kind of town. They're going to need some roads--and quick.

I remember this as well and I'm thinking there was a 3rd location in all of that (Agawam maybe?) and I've always felt like Hull blew it by voting this down. Half the year they put up with out of town traffic anyway with beach and park, it is not like they would have been overwhelmed with new change.

RE: Mdlboro, if it is one road leading out of casino, state will make a fortune in OUI arrests! So you know the lawyers lobby is all for casino! LOL
 

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I remember this as well and I'm thinking there was a 3rd location in all of that (Agawam maybe?) and I've always felt like Hull blew it by voting this down. Half the year they put up with out of town traffic anyway with beach and park, it is not like they would have been overwhelmed with new change.

RE: Mdlboro, if it is one road leading out of casino, state will make a fortune in OUI arrests! So you know the lawyers lobby is all for casino! LOL

I was in Hull three weeks ago and the place looks horrible. The state has completely neglected the beach and it's a shame. It was embarrassing. Nantasket Beach was the best beach in the area and it has eroded away to nothing. If there were gambling in the area, I bet that would be different. There would be casinos where Paragon was, where all the abandoned MDC property is, and where the "redevelopment authority area" is. (They basically destroyed an entire neighborhood--moved businesses and house and stuff--and the area has been a vacant lot farm for over thirty years.)

No question, Hull missed the boat. And it's a shame.
 

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Hell, here in Texas they won't even let the indians have a casino. A few tribes tried it and they shut'em down. Of course neighboring states are making tons of money from us.

It's ok to have a lottery, bingo, horse and dog racing though. The politicians here, like everywhere, don't give a rats ass what the citizens of this state want. They won't even let us vote on it.
 

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