Why can't other books follow Pinny's model?

tgoodm1 · Aug 1, 2007

Months after being booted from Pinny, it is clear that there is no other book that comes remotely close to them. How I will miss their reduced juice, large limits and excellent software!

What I don't understand is: Why has no other book been able to follow or imitate their model?

It should bring tons of business that book's way.

I have searched around endlessly and there is no close second. :ughhh:

MattRain · Aug 1, 2007

If you only do straight bets and can cope with the "make an offer and wait for it to be matched" concept, Matchbook is the nuts for Americans.

But yes, I love Pinny. :thumbsup: They seem to have business brains that aren't matched elsewhere. It must be hard for a book to thrive with reduced juice.

whalewager · Aug 1, 2007

why cant your mom be as good looking as rajs mom?

its an answer that can never be answered

VIEJODINOSAUR · Aug 1, 2007

Matt Rain said:
If you only do straight bets and can cope with the "make an offer and wait for it to be matched" concept, Matchbook is the nuts for Americans.

But yes, I love Pinny. :thumbsup: They seem to have business brains that aren't matched elsewhere. It must be hard for a book to thrive with reduced juice.

Not really hard if you also bet..... :103631605

newton0038 · Aug 1, 2007

Hard to find linesmakers that consistantly get into the square's mind wether by the line or the juice. Add no bullshit of 1000% bonuses, i get my money when I ask for it is one pinny's highlights. Hard to copy unless you have the peeps that WANT to do the jobs!

Betallsports · Aug 1, 2007

newton0038 said:
Hard to find linesmakers that consistantly get into the square's mind wether by the line or the juice. Add no bullshit of 1000% bonuses, i get my money when I ask for it is one pinny's highlights. Hard to copy unless you have the peeps that WANT to do the jobs!

The Reason is because they Are Automated, it's all done by computer.
No clerk is changing his lines..it's the computer program doing almost ALL the work !
The Guy is a Genius :modemman:

bellyputter · Aug 1, 2007

When did Pinnacle start booking?

guitarjosh · Aug 1, 2007

I wish they would start a book for Americans like CRIS did with Bookmaker.

Boston1 · Aug 1, 2007

Pinny should have an off shoot book just for US customers. The problem is they got too big. They have to be thinking about this. They were just so much on the cutting edge. Gonna be more difficult with them not around.

sunnyblue100 · Aug 1, 2007

Boston1 said:
Pinny should have an off shoot book just for US customers. The problem is they got too big. They have to be thinking about this. They were just so much on the cutting edge. Gonna be more difficult with them not around.

Pinnacle's expansion to European and Asian market, anybody knows how it goes? Do they successfully grab some market shares there?

sunnyblue100 · Aug 1, 2007

Betallsports said:
The Reason is because they Are Automated, it's all done by computer.
No clerk is changing his lines..it's the computer program doing almost ALL the work !
The Guy is a Genius :modemman:

If it's all done by computer, we won't see any ridiculous line like over 10 (+3123) under 10(-3113). They sometimes put up bad opening line as well. :missingte

Betallsports · Aug 1, 2007

sunnyblue100 said:
If it's all done by computer, we won't see any ridiculous line like over 10 (+3123) under 10(-3113). They sometimes put up bad opening line as well. :missingte

I am Only guessing that with Opening Lines, it's Human error....
But Pinny does work by Computer..

SkinsRaj28 · Aug 1, 2007

whalewager said:
why cant your mom be as good looking as rajs mom?

its an answer that can never be answered

Too bad she hates crackers. Cracker.

Santo · Aug 1, 2007

sunnyblue100 said:
Pinnacle's expansion to European and Asian market, anybody knows how it goes? Do they successfully grab some market shares there?

My experience is it's working in the UK to some extent, more people are talking to me about Pinnacle, where as in the past it was always Will Hill, Ladbrokes etc. I think they need fixed odds UK horse racing to be taken seriously in this market, but they're getting there, more advertising etc..

sunnyblue100 · Aug 1, 2007

Santo said:
My experience is it's working in the UK to some extent, more people are talking to me about Pinnacle, where as in the past it was always Will Hill, Ladbrokes etc. I think they need fixed odds UK horse racing to be taken seriously in this market, but they're getting there, more advertising etc..

Thanks for the information. The reason that I am asking this is, if pinny's plan works well, they won't bother rushing back into u.s market any time soon, which is sad. :nohead:

VIEJODINOSAUR · Aug 1, 2007

Betting, new markets, low juice, and less agents make for a better profit margin for Pinny, and I'm sure they had some legal advice about American customers...their programming is probably second to none..Pinnacle is strong..
Just my opinon...