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I have never been a big fan of black people crying racism in everything, but in the Barroid case, I think it is a combination of the biggest jerk or all-time and some racism.

Why has ROIDCKET Clemens gotten a free pass. That fuckers head is a big as King Kong Bundy's. Clemens is god at 44 and nobody says a word. Barry hits 73 and people basically accuse him of juicing in the ondeck circle.

Look at Clemens in '85 and now. And Roger is workout warrior, but he isn't on roids, sure!
 

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he took roids for sure... no question... but no one ever questions him... Guy is a clown
 

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I have never been a big fan of black people crying racism in everything, but in the Barroid case, I think it is a combination of the biggest jerk or all-time and some racism.

Why has ROIDCKET Clemens gotten a free pass. That fuckers head is a big as King Kong Bundy's. Clemens is god at 44 and nobody says a word. Barry hits 73 and people basically accuse him of juicing in the ondeck circle.

Look at Clemens in '85 and now. And Roger is workout warrior, but he isn't on roids, sure!


I do not like Clemens but I do not see it. He was 24-4 right here in 86. So he was always a great talent and at Texas too. He was always big framed. Where was it stated that he did roids? I am not saying he didn't do it...I am just asking where this came from.
 

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I do not like Clemens but I do not see it. He was 24-4 right here in 86. So he was always a great talent and at Texas too. He was always big framed. Where was it stated that he did roids? I am not saying he didn't do it...I am just asking where this came from.

He is been in talks before...

If you aren't as sure about him as you are about Bonds then something is wrong with you... The guy is huge and pitching great at this age... not only that but he is a psycho and clearly has been popping them with the best of them... Just like Barry is a freak of nature so was Roger... because they both cheated
 

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Because Bonds is a dick who doesn't give a fuck who also happened to break two of the most hallowed (sp?) records in sports.

Seems like almost everyone else gets a pass (well, not Raffy). Clemens, Sosa, Giambi, and even Merriman in football. Image is everything, if you're a halfway likeable guy everything will be forgiven. Bonds will likely be hated forever by most.
 

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Because Bonds is a dick who doesn't give a fuck who also happened to break two of the most hallowed (sp?) records in sports.

Seems like almost everyone else gets a pass (well, not Raffy). Clemens, Sosa, Giambi, and even Merriman in football. Image is everything, if you're a halfway likeable guy everything will be forgiven. Bonds will likely be hated forever by most.
Yeah why does Merriman's bitch ass get a pass... people tlak about him like he is as good as Urlacher and Lewis... IN GENERAL I know they are different styles and he doesn't play inside... The guy cheated... FLAT OUT... not gonna praise his cheating ass
 

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I don't think there have ever been allegations about Clemens, but there are certainly legitimate questions. I remember seeing him pitch in Baltimore his last year with the Red Sox, and he couldn't get his fast ball by ANYBODY. It waw so bad that he was throwing breaking balls on 3-2 counts, and getting rocked. I thought to myself, this guy is DONE. And the next year he goes to Toronto and wins 21 games. :think2:
 

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I don't think there have ever been allegations about Clemens, but there are certainly legitimate questions. I remember seeing him pitch in Baltimore his last year with the Red Sox, and he couldn't get his fast ball by ANYBODY. It waw so bad that he was throwing breaking balls on 3-2 counts, and getting rocked. I thought to myself, this guy is DONE. And the next year he goes to Toronto and wins 21 games. :think2:
Exactly when his career was thought to be over... WHEN THE WHITE SOX SIGNED JAMIE NAVARRO over him... for the same amount of money WHAT IDIOTS, he came back the next year with a lot of extra velocity and shit
 

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I don't think there have ever been allegations about Clemens, but there are certainly legitimate questions. I remember seeing him pitch in Baltimore his last year with the Red Sox, and he couldn't get his fast ball by ANYBODY. It waw so bad that he was throwing breaking balls on 3-2 counts, and getting rocked. I thought to myself, this guy is DONE. And the next year he goes to Toronto and wins 21 games. :think2:


He got himself in much better shape. He was mad as hell at the Sox and you could see the difference physically. He did have a few off years at the end of his career in Boston. he was a great strikeout pitcher early in his career so he never just shot up and started striking guys out. I would not be surprised at all but do not see it. He was furious at the Sox.
 

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Because Of Balco Bonds pretty much said he took roids.... grand jury... Clemens has never really been linked just people think he may be. would not surprise me.. I bet if it was McGwire going to break the record he would be getting bashed too... I am getting real sick of this whole Bonds issue.... I hope A-fraud breaks the thing and that will be the end of this issue... 90-2005 there is no telling how many pitchers and hitters were on the gas.....
themanej2001 this guy... somebody should get him tested when he wins a game.... must be the roids,.... :missingte
 

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He got himself in much better shape. He was mad as hell at the Sox and you could see the difference physically. He did have a few off years at the end of his career in Boston. he was a great strikeout pitcher early in his career so he never just shot up and started striking guys out. I would not be surprised at all but do not see it. He was furious at the Sox.

You never thought that him going...

4.6, 3.7, 3.5, 4.35 and 3.91 in his late thirties and then suddenly dropping into the twos again in his forties was alarming at all?

Hmmm... seems like you are giving him a pass as well... He suddenly got unbeatable when he reached like 42 years old
 

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He took roids and got himself in much better shape. He was mad as hell at the Sox and you could see the difference physically. He did have a few off years at the end of his career in Boston. he was a great strikeout pitcher early in his career so he never just shot up and started striking guys out. I would not be surprised at all but do not see it. He was furious at the Sox and decided to juice.


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Seriously, I don't know if Clemens used, but I've suspected it for a while. Probably doesn't help that I really can't stand the guy.
 

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Because Of Balco Bonds pretty much said he took roids.... grand jury... Clemens has never really been linked just people think he may be. would not surprise me.. I bet if it was McGwire going to break the record he would be getting bashed too... I am getting real sick of this whole Bonds issue.... I hope A-fraud breaks the thing and that will be the end of this issue... 90-2005 there is no telling how many pitchers and hitters were on the gas.....
themanej2001 this guy... somebody should get him tested when he wins a game.... must be the roids,.... :missingte


This is what I was wondering. People were acting like he was implicated and I was not sure. I do not think he was and I do not like him and have followed him his entire career. But of course would not be surprised at all. he is pitching this age because he is a great talent and work out freak. In Boston the young pitchers could not do his workouts (running hills)...he is a hard worker.
 

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I do not like Clemens but I do not see it. He was 24-4 right here in 86. So he was always a great talent and at Texas too. He was always big framed. Where was it stated that he did roids? I am not saying he didn't do it...I am just asking where this came from.


I hate to give you he said, she said story, but here it is.

A friend of mine is a sports reporter in Dallas. I am not sure how, but he knows the trainer with the Astros. He said Clemens has been using for a while. He wanted to run with the story, but the trainer said, it would be obvious he talked and his career would be over.

I generally don't give things like this much credit, but he is not a liar from all the years I have known him. Always has been a straight shooter.
 

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Seriously, I don't know if Clemens used, but I've suspected it for a while. Probably doesn't help that I really can't stand the guy.

LOL. I do not like him either. I do not think he did for now but could be wrong. he is a hard worker and great talent.
 

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Jerry Rice is the greatest workout warrior I have ever seen and he fell apart at the end, but Clemens at 44 is now CY Young.
 

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