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You were asking how important umpires are to a total. Tonight Hirschbeck (a strong under ump) was supposed to be at first base and behind the plate tomorrow. For whatever reason he was behind the plate tonight (other ump was probably sick or something). The total for tomorrow's game has been taken off the board at almost all books. This used to only happen with pitching changes. Now it happens with umpire changes.

Go figure
 

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And they hang crooked refs.
Steroidball is as undermining as any.
They know when someone's on to them.
 

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If this was for the KC/Tex game I think you are getting a little carried away with this Umpire business. There was a pitching change
 

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If this was for the KC/Tex game I think you are getting a little carried away with this Umpire business. There was a pitching change
hehehe..one of the funniest fkn lines,ive heard in a while.....hope ye win em all...'keep the continue'
 

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If this was for the KC/Tex game I think you are getting a little carried away with this Umpire business. There was a pitching change


U have no idea how important umps really are in a game huh, come check out pops69 baseball thread and find out. Most bettors worry about starting pitchers and dont even look at umps, thats scary.
 

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U have no idea how important umps really are in a game huh, come check out pops69 baseball thread and find out. Most bettors worry about starting pitchers and dont even look at umps, thats scary.

IMLW - I've been trying to decipher that thread. Is there a post or page # you suggest starting with? Thanks.
 

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U have no idea how important umps really are in a game huh, come check out pops69 baseball thread and find out. Most bettors worry about starting pitchers and dont even look at umps, thats scary.


Never said they weren't important. I just think you guys put too much emphasis on umpires.
 

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IMLW - I've been trying to decipher that thread. Is there a post or page # you suggest starting with? Thanks.


I do thread highlights for pops and post them on Monday and Friday, I will be posting it again tomm. morning. Click on the link and you will open about 70 pages of filtered out important information that is a wealth of knowledge. Will post it by 12:00 pm tomm.
 

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I do thread highlights for pops and post them on Monday and Friday, I will be posting it again tomm. morning. Click on the link and you will open about 70 pages of filtered out important information that is a wealth of knowledge. Will post it by 12:00 pm tomm.

Awesome. Thanks for the info.
 

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Never said they weren't important. I just think you guys put too much emphasis on umpires.


That's the opinion my partner had too, he specialized in totals. Didn't matter the sport, NBA, football or bases, he bet nothing but totals. Anyway his opinions were that the umpire angle had been severely reduced in value over the years. He claims years ago it was important information, worth it's weight in gold, now it's mostly overvalued. I don't remember all the reasons he gave, I know one of them was that once a clear OVER or UNDER umpire was identified the guy was encouraged to make changes to get back in the middle of the mix. Allegedly it's not a good thing to be too far either way these days, I guess the brass doesn't look kindly on it and they make more of an effort to have some sort of continuity behind the plate. As a result the guys with the tight strike zones are trying to expand it as the season goes and vice versa with the others.

Again, this is not my opinion so leave me out of it, simply someone else I used to bet bases with was always telling me this. I don't pretend to know all there is about totals, I know there is some correlation with the umps and totals, the magnitude of it is where people disagree. I had asked TN about all this in another thread as I knows he feels strongly on this subject, for the record I don't agree or disagree, I don't have enough information to form a strong opinion either way at this point.
 
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Never said they weren't important. I just think you guys put too much emphasis on umpires.

Your right. I'm still looking for a thread with all your winners. If I am up 100 units placing too much emphasis on the umps you must be up tons
 
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If this was for the KC/Tex game I think you are getting a little carried away with this Umpire business. There was a pitching change

Looks like another expert. Did you know that there were lines posted for this game with todays starters and then taken down?

As for hognuts, well he is just an idiot that cant pick his nose. He proved that when he posted a couple of picks. If I remember correctly one of his game he went with was because a team struggled against lefties. Only problem was they were facing a right hander. Now that was funny
 

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Your right. I'm still looking for a thread with all your winners. If I am up 100 units placing too much emphasis on the umps you must be up tons

First of all you bet like 25 units a night so being up 100 units means nothing. You seem to be terrible with totals as well.
 
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First of all you bet like 25 units a night so being up 100 units means nothing. You seem to be terrible with totals as well.


lol

You are showing your true ingnorance now. No use arguing with an idiot.

Where is your thread at again? Have you posted winners for 5 years anywhere?
 
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and lets see you get to 100 units with no play bigger than 5 units. Play as many or as few games as you want. I'll take the dont for $1000.00
 

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Looks like another expert. Did you know that there were lines posted for this game with todays starters and then taken down?

As for hognuts, well he is just an idiot that cant pick his nose. He proved that when he posted a couple of picks. If I remember correctly one of his game he went with was because a team struggled against lefties. Only problem was they were facing a right hander. Now that was funny
it was never my intention to hurt your feelins,i was tryin to make light of what i perceived to be an embarrassing situation,for you..hope you win every game..'keep the continue'
 

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