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When a pitcher leads off an inning reaching first base, are the odds of him scoring higher than the NL average?

I would think so....anyone have it?

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I'm sure there is something to that stat because LaRussa moved the pitcher to bat 8th, creating a second leadoff hitter batting 9th like the AL. This way Pujols can bat more with guys on base.

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Actually that was what had me wondering, saw Young reach.


i dont have stats but i dont see why they would score any more since pitchers generally arent the best baserunners so sometimes it takes 2 more hits even when he gets to 2nd to score them even doubles sometimes dont from 1st
 

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I would say the odds are lower.

The pitchers are normally awful baserunners, then you get the leadoff guy trying to move people over which he is not use to.

I would say if the 1 hitter gets on in the top of an inning, that would be your highest % play.

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Well TWO pitchers led off innings tonight on base and both scored...I would think it would be higher.
 

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When a pitcher leads off an inning reaching first base, are the odds of him scoring higher than the NL average?

I would think so....anyone have it?

'Data', come in 'Data' ? :drink:

For simplicity sake lets just assume that pitchers are the worst runners. Thus, we have a dilemma, who has a better chance of scoring: the slowest runner on base and top of the order hitting vs. an average runner and average hitters.

This is actually fairly simple if you think in terms of a season instead of a given inning. It is commonly accepted number that a value range between the best and worst baserunners is about 8 runs per season. So, the slowest baserunner will cost just 4 runs per season. It is obvious that three top of the order hitters will score much more than that over the season while compared to three average hitters.

Therefore, the answer to this question is yes, the odds are higher.
 

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JMAN seeks: When a pitcher leads off an inning reaching first base, are the odds of him scoring higher than the NL average?

SH: Dude, since I joined the Rx, you've steadily maintained that you're not a cannabis consumer.

Then you post these kinds of questions and I KNOW you gotta have some baked cells going.....

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Friendly response to DATA's analysis....

You correctly note that "the top three players in the lineup will score more....during the season" which seems quite reasonable based simply on their getting more plate appearances.

But will they score "more often" than any other random batter who has reached first base with no out?
 

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See there? That's the kind of followup questions cannabis consumption can produce.
 

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Friendly response to DATA's analysis....

You correctly note that "the top three players in the lineup will score more....during the season" which seems quite reasonable based simply on their getting more plate appearances.

They are given more plate appearances because they are more productive hitters who will create more runs.

But will they score "more often" than any other random batter

Of course. The numbers of runs scored (created, actually) over the season that I was referrering to are not absolute but relative. It is like, "what happens if we replace one set of batters with another set?"
 

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