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Just heard in Vick deal,he will only plea guilty to dog trafficing.no gambling ,no killing dogs..........i hope this is only a false rumor..............ck
 

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prosecution should say fuck you , see you at the trial...
 

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yes i was shock when i heard this and hope it only a rumor,i know why he does not want the gambling thing in there as he want to play in the nfl again but the other, imo the evidence is too strong against him....ck
 

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Yeah, he's going to admit to being present when dogs were killed, but he won't admit to doing it himself.

And rather than starting a new thread for this (I didn't notice it anywhere), I thought this was pretty interesting:

Vick deeply into dogfighting, father says
QB's dad says he didn't abandon family

By BY MATT KEMPNER
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 08/24/07

Michael Vick's father said he pushed his son to quit dogfighting years ago or, at least, put property used for the fights in the name of friends to avoid being implicated some day.

Michael Boddie, in two sometimes tearful interviews with The Atlanta Journal-Constitution this week, said some time around 2001 his son staged dogfights in the garage of the family's home in Newport News, Va. Boddie also said Vick kept fighting dogs in the family's backyard, including injured ones — "bit up, chewed up, exhausted" — that the father nursed back to health.

Boddie, who is estranged from his son, dismissed the idea that Vick's longtime friends were the main instigators of the dogfighting operation.

"I wish people would stop sugarcoating it," Boddie said. "This is Mike's thing. And he knows it."

He "likes it, and he has the capital to have a set up like that."

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i just hope this will not go down monday in the deal.imo the feds have the evidence on vick and i hope they go through with it.make me sick to see the race card being played now as this is not about being white or black.ck
 
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Vicks got the money for top notch lawyers and the feds don't want to waste their time and effort with this piece of shit garbage so they'll accept a plea deal and essentially get the same amount of jail time with out going to trial and spending all the money a trial takes. At this point everyone know what he has done and opinions have been formed that will be lasting. Lock his sorry ass up. I believe the NFL will come down much harsher than the feds. Indefinite ban that could be up to three years. Then its' off to the CFL!
 

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getting sentenced to the CFL is worse than prison
 
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Vicks got the money for top notch lawyers and the feds don't want to waste their time and effort with this piece of shit garbage so they'll accept a plea deal and essentially get the same amount of jail time with out going to trial and spending all the money a trial takes. At this point everyone know what he has done and opinions have been formed that will be lasting. Lock his sorry ass up. I believe the NFL will come down much harsher than the feds. Indefinite ban that could be up to three years. Then its' off to the CFL!

You are crazy if you think he will get the same amount of jail time if he goes to trial or pleads out. They get pissed when you go to trial and lay it to you!
 

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You are crazy if you think he will get the same amount of jail time if he goes to trial or pleads out. They get pissed when you go to trial and lay it to you!

Amen, and since when was the Fed Govt. worried about how much of our money they spend ?
 
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Bye Bye Mikey!!!



Vick files plea agreement admitting to dogfighting

ESPN.com news services



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RICHMOND, Va. -- Michael Vick filed a plea agreement in federal court Friday admitting to a dogfighting charge and agreed the enterprise included killing fighting dogs and gambling.
However, according to the statement of facts that accompanies the plea, Vick did not place side bets and did not receive proceeds from purses from the fights.

The Atlanta Falcons quarterback is scheduled to formally enter his plea Monday in U.S. District Court.

In the agreement, Vick agreed to plead guilty to the first count of the indictment against him -- that he was part of a conspiracy to operate a dogfighting ring across state lines. The charge carries a potential sentence of up to 5 years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and up to three years' probation.
"Most of the Bad Newz Kennels operation and gambling monies were provided by Vick," a summary of facts in the case said.

The statement said that when the kennel's dogs won, the gambling proceeds were generally shared by Vick's three co-defendants -- Tony Taylor, Purnell Peace and Quanis Phillips. All three co-defendants earlier agreed to plead guilty and assist the government's prosecution of Vick.

"Vick did not gamble by placing side bets on any of the fights. Vick did not receive any of the proceeds of the purses that were won by Bad Newz Kennels," the summary said.

"Vick agrees and stipulates that these dogs all died as a result of the collective efforts of Peace, Phillips and Vick."
According to court documents, Vick was aware that his co-defendants killed a number of dogs that did not perform well in testing sessions.
Last April, Vick and two co-defendants tested the fighting skills of dogs and the three agreed to kill six to eight dogs that didn't measure up. All were killed by methods including hanging and drowning.

In the plea agreement, Vick agreed to enter the plea "because the defendant is in fact guilty of the charged offense" and cooperate with the government's investigation. He also knowingly agreed to waive his right to an appeal in exchange for concessions made by prosecutors.
Both sides agreed that due to aggravating circumstances from the facts of the case -- namely, the "the victimnization and killing of pit bulls" -- that prosecutors would go above the federal sentencing guidelines for the charge, but would recommend a sentence at the low end of the scale following that adjustment.
However, U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson is not bound by that recommendation or by federal sentencing guidelines that will call for less than the five-year maximum.
The case began April 25 when investigators conducting a drug search at a massive home Vick built in Surry County found 66 dogs, some of them injured, and items typically used in dogfighting. They included a "rape stand" that holds aggressive dogs in place for mating and a "breakstick" used to pry open a dog's mouth.


Vick contended he knew nothing about a dogfighting operation at the home, where one of his cousins lived, and said he rarely visited. The former Virginia Tech star also blamed friends and family members for taking advantage of his generosity and pledged to be more scrupulous.


The July 17 indictment said dogs that lost fights or fared poorly in test fights were sometimes executed by hanging, electrocution or other brutal means. The grisly details fueled public protests against Vick and cost him some of his lucrative endorsement deals. The Associated Press contributed to this report.
 

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CBABE asks: Amen, and since when was the Fed Govt. worried about how much of our money they spend ?

SH: Plea bargains at the federal level are not motivated by cost of going to trial, though that's a factor.

Rather, they are motivated because they have so many pending cases that unless they plea bargain over 90% (which has been the standard pace for at least 20 years now) they could not successfully prosecute the cases in timely fashion.

There's literally not near enough (by about 10x) manpower to take all cases to trial.

"Manpower" would include, but not be limited to: Prosecutors, baliffs, courtroom personnel, actual physical courtrooms, judges etc
 

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The criminal justice system would not survive with plea bargains.
 

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TFAN, I presume you intended to use the word "without".
 

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Yes, Barman, you are indeed correct sir.
 
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You are crazy if you think he will get the same amount of jail time if he goes to trial or pleads out. They get pissed when you go to trial and lay it to you!

Vick is already a ruined man. No need to go to trial at this point. Damage is done and the feds know it. Max is 5 and he'll get something in the middle. Trial or no trial.
 
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Amen, and since when was the Fed Govt. worried about how much of our money they spend ?

You are sadly mistaken. Feds have got what they want at this point. Trial or no trial Mike is going to do some hard time. Then it's off to the CFL.
 
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Amen, and since when was the Fed Govt. worried about how much of our money they spend ?

If your logic held up the government would have charged him with everything and we would be going to trial. The Feds have accomplished their goal.:aktion033
 

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