define a "square" player

itsallabouttheloot · Aug 26, 2007

The thread about booking squares made me think. Would we all agree on the characteristics of a "square" player?

Here were my thoughts:

Squares generally have little understanding of money management. Squares drink alot while watching the games which causes them to bet foolishly as the day goes on.

Squares like to increase their play as the day goes on.
Squares chase on Sunday / Monday night games
Squares love parlays.
Squares like betting on the NFL more than CFB because they "know" the NFL teams better than the college teams due to television.

I'd be curious what others think.

Samhain · Aug 26, 2007

Squares like to play the obvious.
Squares like to play what the public or ESPN likes
Squares spend to much time researching per game.
Squares play over hyped teams.
Squares do win sometimes, but in long run lose.
Squares don't look for value in play.
Squares follow stats & trends.

Timetopay · Aug 26, 2007

Winbet

Journeyman · Aug 26, 2007

Someone who calls out a poster before the game ends.

prodigy · Aug 26, 2007

sounds paradoxical but ....

squares spend their time worrying who the public is on and try to read into every line possible.

Uno · Aug 26, 2007

A square is someone who calls another poster a square or someone who uses stupid general terms...

You are a winner or a loser and it is that simple.

Journeyman · Aug 26, 2007

If you bet every side and total on MNF you are square.
If you bet parlays daily you are square...and stupid.
If you try and 'get out' every week when down on SNF or MNF you are square.

bullets · Aug 26, 2007

All of us on this forum, except for maybe 3 or 4 posters.

Don't have to work to hard to make money with numbers like that.

Journeyman · Aug 26, 2007

bullets said:
All of us on this forum, except for maybe 3 or 4 posters.

Don't have to work to hard to make money with numbers like that.

You really believe we're all square? :lolBIG:

billsfan · Aug 26, 2007

who is the man is your avatar J-Man?

bullets · Aug 26, 2007

Journeyman said:
You really believe we're all square? :lolBIG:

Other than maybe a handful on here, yes I do.

I've made alot of money this past year and hardly have a losing week anymore but I am still a big square.

Journeyman · Aug 26, 2007

billsfan said:
who is the man is your avatar J-Man?

that's me. :103631605

with my Rx shirt on.

Journeyman · Aug 26, 2007

bullets said:
Other than maybe a handful on here, yes I do.

I've made alot of money this past year and hardly have a losing week anymore but I am still a big square.

Speak for yourself, there are plenty of sharps on this forum. :suomi:

bullets · Aug 26, 2007

Journeyman said:
Speak for yourself, there are plenty of sharps on this forum.

Ok.

Just remember that some of these sharps are on the hunting list when goose season opens.

ganchrow · Aug 26, 2007

Journeyman said:
If you bet parlays daily you are square...and stupid.

There is nothing inherently "square" about betting parlays.

In fact, an advantage bettor seeking to maximize the expected growth rate of his bankroll (i.e., a Kelly bettor) would bet substantially more parlays than straight bets (although for considerably smaller dollar amounts).

maidenguy · Aug 26, 2007

1) Squares don't care what the line is when they bet.
2) Bad money management
3) No concept of long term, only look at the short term
4) No record keeping
5) Don't really care to learn more(visit forums etc.)
6) Haven't read Wong's "Sharpsportsbetting" book by now
7) Will not order King Yao's new book on sports betting because he thinks he doesn't need to

DukeSnider · Aug 26, 2007

and.....the squares win more often than the so called "sharpies".:money8:

:lolBIG:

dimeplayersonly · Aug 26, 2007

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=214938&highlight=square

VIEJODINOSAUR · Aug 26, 2007

A square loves action and needs to get down...I'm in and accounted for....but I keep thinking there is a term for being worse than a square...degenerate comes to mind....

Jetplane · Aug 26, 2007

VIEJO DINOSAUR said:
A square loves action and needs to get down...I'm in and accounted for....but I keep thinking there is a term for being worse than a square...degenerate comes to mind....

I'm both... cuz i have the money to be--and i know i'm a dumbass for it. who needs a client? >

jk.

BUT, I don't think spending too much time on one game should make you considerable to a square. I used to tout and I researched 2 or 3 games a day (sometimes up to7-8) taking up around 8-10 hours a day. It might not have been worth it with the returns but I did it really just to prove that you can win sports betting. I was around 65-70% for a lonnnnng time and was above 60% every day for freakin I don't know how long. Either way--if I had the balls to actually throw $1K on everygame I wouldn't be here on this forum but I just played relatively small.

By the way, I only charged $60 for a season... it's not like I was really trying to rip people off. It was more of a security blanket for me betting so small. I had up 15 people I think and 6 who would regularly talk with me.

Now I have the BR to play big--but I don't research as much so I lose my ass. Great feeling, isn't it?