Carmona/Meche total- 8 1/2...13/14 have went under 8.5 between the two L 14 combined.

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Meche 5/6 all under 8 1/2 all losses
Carmona 8 straight under 8 1/2

It seems like both these pitchers are always wishing their team could score a run or two and lose a lot of tough 2-1 games , 3-2 games.

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Nice info J-man....you took your avatar down? It was a very nice picture.
 

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