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http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070926/SPORTS1405/709260423/1023/SPORTS13

Bettor's scheme makes big bucks, and it's legal <!-- CONTENT --><SCRIPT language=JavaScript>varUsername = "danjohnson@dmreg.com";document.write("By DAN JOHNSON");</SCRIPT>By DAN JOHNSON
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September 26, 2007

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A bettor seems to have devised a clever scheme to beat the races at Prairie Meadows.

And it appears to be legal, with the only victims being off-shore betting sites that act as bookmakers.

The first two days of the harness meet had three races in which someone bet $1,000 to place or show on horses that figured to lose.

The apparent goal was to inflate the payoffs of the top finishers so the bettor could clean up with off-shore bookmaking sites. Those sites pay track odds, but the wagering is not commingled with track betting.

"The only logical spin I can put on this is that whoever is doing this must have additional accounts with off-shore sites," said Mark Loewe, Prairie Meadows' director of mutuels. "So, they're laying $1,000 off here, and betting $2,000 or $3,000 somewhere else."

Why Prairie Meadows? Because the harness betting pools are so small that a $1,000 wager can dramatically shift the odds.

In Monday's third race, KB Amy went off at odds of 51-1. There was $8 bet to win on her, $2 to place, and $1,010 to show. The entire nine-horse field drew $1,210 in show wagering, in which bets are won on horses finishing third or better.

KB Amy finished a distant fourth while 2-5 favorite Aura Lee Triumph won. Aura Lee Triumph paid $2.80 for a $2 win wager, $2.20 to place and $12.60 to show.

Had the bettor also bet $2,000 to show on an Internet site on Aura Lee Triumph, he would have gotten back $25,200.

"From our standpoint, the ($1,000) bet is made legally," said Jack Ketterer, executive administrator for the Iowa racing and Gaming Commission. "It's up to the off-shore sites to decide whether they take bets on the races."

It's not costing Prairie Meadows bettors anything - in fact, they're getting back more money because of the $1,000 being lost on losing horses.

Who loses? The off-shore betting sites in Costa Rica and elsewhere that take betting on races without tracks' permission. Tracks have been fighting the sites, which offer rebates to lure heavy bettors away from tracks, but have been powerless to stop them.

Ketterer said the practice has happened before.

"When simulcasting started in the early '80s, they started doing it in Las Vegas with greyhound racing," he said. "At that time, they weren't commingling betting. They'd bet a couple hundred dollars to show at the track on the worst dog of the night. Then they'd bet all over Las Vegas at the 'books. But the racebooks caught on to it pretty quick."

Discussion about the betting situation began on KXNO's afternoon sports radio show earlier this week.

Even though the betting at Prairie Meadows is legal, Loewe said he is concerned the track will be tarnished.

"We do care, because there's the perception that something's not right," he said.

"The average person is not going to say, 'It's an off-shore rebate shop.' They're going to see Prairie Meadows and say something's fishy."

While the 2006 Internet gambling bill prohibited online casino gambling, it exempted interstate betting on horse racing, which was legalized under a previous law.

The Prairie Meadows $1,000 bets are coming in as two $500 wagers from legal account services, one through Youbet.com, the other through AmericaTab.

The other bets came Saturday. In the sixth race, Sierra No Angel had $17 bet to win, $14 to place and $1,040 to show. She was a distant fifth and Jazz Brand, the 7-10 favorite, paid $12.60 to show. Runner-up Coop's Class paid $21.60 to show and third-place finisher Pro paid $48.

There was no show betting on the fifth race, but Khanboy, who finished last, had $1,040 to place wagered on him. Panaramic Art, the 3-5 favorite, won and only paid $3 to place, but runner-up No Road Parking paid $15.20.

Ketterer and Loewe expect the off-shore sites to react soon.

"It won't take them long," Ketterer said.

Reporter Dan Johnson can be reached at (515) 284-8375 or dansjohn@dmreg.com
 

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I know Judge. I'm familiar with a group that did it during the old World Series of Handicapping that Penn National used to have.

They had a guy bet a few thousand on a horse with no chance to show and then loaded up all their contest money on the favorite to show and ended up winning like $75k in the contest.

They were eventually banned from even entering Penn National, but I believe they got to keep their contest winnings.
 

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Wharf, also when that Oklahoma track opened about 10 years ago, they had a handicapping contest. A couple of New Yorkers did it too, and walked away with the top prize. This is why a lot of books won't write low volume tracks.
 

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aren't all the wagers co-mingled thru the parimutuel? Stopping this Which is one of the primary functions of co-mingling.
 

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If they had bet smaller amounts they might have avoided being exposed, and made much more long term.
 
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The Funny part of this story is that Years ago in New York, I used to have Mark Loewe on one of my Sheets...

He has been in the Harness Business a long time. He was the 2nd Trainer for Trainer / Driver Bill Popfinger.

He was a little Nerd back then, and was a Slow Paying Dick head !! LOL

Now to see him talk about what goes on at the Track and offshore stuff !

This stuff has happend for Years.....it goes on all the time !
And True what Judge said...Most Books won't take these small tracks
Because they could get hurt....
 

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Use to happen often at Caliente race books at smaller dog tracks. i know some people responsible for caliente dropping some dog tracks. :lol:
 

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"...Had the bettor also bet $2,000 to show on an Internet site
on Aura Lee Triumph, he would have gotten back $25,200..."

Another example of a member of the press writing about something they don't know about, they would have collected, $12,600 on a $2,000 bet, which is why you have to question everything you can read, this isnt a big deal but think about articles you read on topics you dont know of and infer that there have to be errors in them also...
 

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I have said this for a while. Maybe not this specifically with the show thing but if you like to bet smaller harness tracks you should bet them offshore.

I had a $100 win ticket the other day at Hazel Park and I estimate I doubled my profits because I played it offshore as the odds would have got drilled if I played it at the track.

If and when I get back into betting harness horses pretty seriously I will do almost all of it offshore, it is a no brainer for alot of reasons.
 

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Why were all these idiots at the track betting on the favorite to win and not on him to show? Do some simple math and see that the show pool is paying 6 times the win pool. How small are these tracks?
 

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