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Draft contract between state, Seminoles would allow Vegas-style slots, blackjack in Immokalee

Oct. 15 deadline looms
By Michael Peltier
Originally published — 9:54 p.m., October 8, 2007
Updated — 12:18 p.m., October 9, 2007
TALLAHASSEE — With a federal deadline looming, Gov. Charlie Crist is betting that he can reach an agreement with the Seminole Tribe of Florida that will benefit state coffers when the tribe expands its gambling operations.
</STRONG></EM>Last week, state officials released a draft of a 25-year compact between the state and the tribe allowing it to offer “Las Vegas”-style slot machines with higher stakes and opening the door to more games like blackjack and baccarat at seven casinos including the Seminole Casino of Immokalee.
It’s a deal that some say could be an economic catalyst in Immokalee. It’s a deal that others say could be detrimental to pari-mutuel wagering at places such as the Naples-Fort Myers Greyhound Track in Bonita Springs.
Last week, the Interior Department extended until Oct. 15 its deadline to consider giving its permission for the Seminoles to offer Vegas-style slots.
George Lemieux, Crist chief of staff, said the Bureau of Indian Affairs has made it clear that if the state doesn’t make a deal with the tribe, the federal agency will.
“If we don’t’ reach an agreement, and reach an agreement in the short term, (Indian Affairs officials) are going to let the Seminoles provide Class III gaming in the form of slot machines,” Lemieux said. “The state will collect no revenue and have no consumer protection (oversight.)”
The issue has put Crist at odds with some House leaders who oppose any expansion of gambling and contend that it’s up to the Legislature to approve any pact with Indian tribes.
Crist wants to reach an accord that would translate into tax revenue for the state, which would take a cut of the winnings.
The deal between the Seminoles and the state could also have a trickle-down effect on the Naples Fort Myers Greyhound Track.
It could shut out the track of the opportunity to also have slot machines in the near future.
This is what Dan Adkins, chief gaming executive of Mardi Gras Gaming in Hallandale Beach, fears.
He called the current proposal on the table a “bad deal.”
Adkins wants a deal that would allow Vegas-style gambling at all of the state-governed pari-mutuel gambling sites, too.
“Let’s just legalize it,” said Adkins, who successfully spearheaded the efforts to get Class III slots in the Broward race-casinos. “If we are going to make a deal let’s make it across the table where we are all on a level playing field. Let’s do it right the first time and include everyone in this pact.”
Scott Savin, the chief operating officer of Southwest Florida Enterprises, the Miami-based company that manages one of the region’s existing gaming establishments, the Naples-Fort Myers Greyhound Track, wants to make sure the deal protects the pari-mutuel wagering.
“If there isn’t any pronounced details to protect pari-mutuel gaming it could be detrimental to the industry,” Savin said.
Indian gaming laws going back to 1988 generally allow tribes to conduct gambling operations on their sovereign lands. It also allows them to provide games equivalent to those being offered on non-tribal lands.
Broward County voters in 2005 approved Las Vegas slot machines. Tribal leaders have been negotiating with state and federal officials over expanding their own menu of games to include such machines.
Under the draft agreement, the tribe agrees to pay the state an as yet undefined percentage of casino revenue. The Tribe’s attorney, Barry Richard, had previously said that the Seminoles were willing to pay $50 million up front and up to $100 million a year.
This is where Adkins has a problem. Currently, the four casinos in Broward County are taxed at 50 percent. He said the Broward tax bill adds up to $200 million and the Seminoles will be taxed less than 10 percent of their total profits, which is only $15 million per casino.
“The Indians are the ones being greedy here,” Adkins said. “Let’s just bury the hatchet, and that’s not a pun.”
Adkins also worries about all of the outs the deal allows for the Tribe. The Seminoles would stop paying immediately if similar non-Indian casinos spring up outside of Broward and Miami-Dade County, if gambling expands in Broward and Miami-Dade and if their net winnings drop below $1.37 billion, which is now estimated to be the tribe’s annual take.
He also points out that the Tribe casinos would be allowed to have video versions of craps and roulette, which are not allowed at the four Broward casinos.
The Tribe would however have to follow the same state rules for gaming which would only allow them to operate the poker rooms for 12 hours.
Any agreement would have to be approved by the U.S. Department of the Interior, which oversees the Bureau of Indian Affairs.
Crist has argued that if the state doesn’t make a compact, the federal government will and Florida will get nothing from Indian casinos.
The Seminoles in March filed a federal lawsuit in Miami charging that the state is not negotiating in good faith. The Miccosukee Tribe is also participating in the lawsuit.
Adkins says a deal could result in a financial windfall for a small town such as Immokalee, creating longtime jobs and economic development. But he believes the effect could be doubled if the state agrees to expand gambling to all existing betting places.
“You make it a destination that would bring in billions for the state,” Adkins said, “and then everyone’s a winner.”
Staff Writer Tom Hanson contributed to this report.
© 2007 Naples Daily News and NDN Productions. Published in Naples, Florida, USA by the E.W. Scripps Co.
 

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Cards fly, hopes high as Seminole Hard Rock casino's blackjack tables open

By Nick Sortal
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
June 23, 2008


The big cheer came at 6:21 p.m. Sunday, when announcer Michael Buffer bellowed to the blackjack players: "Let's get ready to gamble!"

Seconds later came applause from a table where the dealer turned over a queen on her jack and three to make 23 — and a bust. The game, after all, is 21.

Blackjack is rolling at the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino. Players lined up three and four deep at the casino's 55 blackjack tables, waiting to play on what Seminole Tribe CEO James Allen called "a historic day."

"For many, many years the tribe has pursued this dream, and tonight we fulfill our goal," he said. He referred to the compact the Tribe and Gov. Charlie Crist reached last fall, allowing the Tribe exclusive rights to table card games in exchange for at least $100 million a year to the state.

Sandu Neacsu, of Boca Raton, arrived at 3 p.m. — three hours before the cards were supposed to fly — to stand with about 100 people behind velvet ropes, waiting for a seat after celebrities and high rollers got the first spots. The tables could accommodate about 400 people at once, but at least three times as many turned out.

"I've been dying to play," said Neacsu, 30.

Adding to the scene were actress Carmen Electra who exhorted the crowd to "Rock on!"; tribe members who strutted in as the song Eye of the Tiger played; women who wore cards painted on their chests; and TV and sports personalities who played ceremonial first hands.

Hard Rock officials set the table minimums at $25 at 41 tables, $100 at 14 others. Sixteen tables, with pai gow, Let it Ride and three-card poker, baccarat and mini-baccarat, carried $20 to $25 minimums in the main casino area, and the baccarat table in the high-limit room had a $100 minimum.The limits were too high for Lori Tiger, of Coral Springs, who prefers three-card poker at $5 a hand.

"But it's a happening, so I came," she said.

Joe Giaimo, vice president for table games, said the market will dictate the limits.

"They might go up, they might go down; it's just supply and demand," he said. He expects activity to wane from 6 a.m. to 10 a.m., for example, so players likely will have lower limits, he said. The casino is open around the clock.

Steve Bourie, author of the American Casino Guide, said the $25 minimum is comparable to Atlantic City, but cruise ships out of Palm Beach and Broward counties have $5 tables.

"I think $25 prices out the average player, but we'll see," he said. He estimated a player needs to sit down with $250 to be able to weather the ebb and flow of blackjack.

Blackjack is four times as popular as any other table game, including poker, roulette and craps, according to a recent study by Harrah's Entertainment.

The table games mean growth for the Seminole Hard Rock properties, one gambling industry expert said, partially because baccarat brings high-rollers and pai gow poker attracts the Asian market.

"They can compete with any casino anyplace else in the country for premium players," said Joe Weinert, vice president of Spectrum Gaming Group. "They will attract players who travel farther, stay longer and spend more."

Allen has said the hotel is looking at expanding the already-dominant Indian gaming field. Indian gaming is a $28 billion business, he said, compared with $6 billion for Las Vegas and $5.2 billion for Atlantic City.

"We're at 94 percent occupancy [at the Hard Rock hotel] for the year already, so it's a pretty easy decision," he said. "When we started planning this casino back in 2000, we wanted to be able to pick it up and drop it in the middle of the Las Vegas Strip, and we have not deviated from that philosophy."

Randy Potter, of Coral Springs, showed up at 3 p.m., but left at 7:45 p.m. without having played a hand.

"It just wasn't going to happen," he said. "We'll come back sometime when it's less crowded."

Nick Sortal can be reached at nsortal@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4725.
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