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Honey Badger Don't Give A Shit
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There will be no playoffs

There will be no wild card.

There will be no .500 record

Quite simply, this team now blows as bad or more than last season’s model.

I was right there with many locals over the past three weeks - enjoying the three consecutive wins, albeit against incredibly marginal opponents.
As the Saints and Falcons started off weakly, there was a glimmer of “Hey we could win the Division!”

lol....NFL Myopia can be a wonderful affliction, though the withdrawal symptoms can stir up the brain and body like no other.

Let’s compare the current roster to last years

QB - Jeff Garcia vs Bruce Gradkowski = WIN for the Bucs

OL - Maturation of Joseph and Truelove seems fair, but losing Petigew for season pretty much puts this bunch at little better than 2006

RB - Dismal for sure now that Pittman and Williams are done. Yeah, MP might be back in December - which is when TBay may nab two of their remaining three wins for the year.

WR - Absolute wasteland and nothing different from 2006. #1 pick from four years ago Mike Clayton has been officially AWOL since midseason 2006.

DL - #1 pick G Adams is getting manhandled in the middle by opponents O-lines and there’s little else of note. Kevin Carter, a 13 year experienced and pretty slow veteran makes little impact.

LB - Adding Cato June doesn’t hurt, but here’s a news flash. EVERY NFL TEAM upgrades their LBs with a fresh body or two every year. So any net gain by the Bucs is cancelled out by every other team having made similar upgrade.

Meanwhile, Derrick Brooks another year older and another step slower.

DB - Brian Kelly playing no more than last year. Phil Buchanan is still a nickel D spare that was rejected from OAKLAND for chrissakes.

Meanwhile, Ronde Barber another year older and another step slower.

Tampa Bay’s offense in regular season since winning the Super Bowl after 2002 season averages 14.1 pts per game. This year’s version got loose with 31 versus the (once again) lowly Saints, but overall are just 18 ppg and there’s nothing to give rise to thinking they will maintain even that meager number during the final 11 games of 2007. They’re currently 25th overall and quite likely to drop even further. Not exactly the hallmark of a “Division contender”.

The defense is one year older and slower than last year’s version which ranked 17th in the league.
 

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Who are the Bucs going to beat in next 11 games?

TENN - Dubious considering they will likely be outrushed by 2to1
at DET - How are they going to contain Kitna when they have NO pass rush (eight sacks in five games to date)?

JAX - Yummmy.....Getting shut out at home is FUN!

ARZ - By the time the Cardinals slip in and out of the CITS with a late game FG win, no one in Tampa fan base will not be looking to Draft 2008.

at ATL - Hey Wait! It’s the lowly Falcons! Who by this time will have established a moderate rhythm with either Harrington or Leftwich and could likely punk the Bucs in the GDome.

WAS - Continuing to mature J Campbell, a solid rushing game and defense could make this a severe smakdown from Skins.

at NO - Hey Wait! It’s the lowly Saints! Who by this time will have established a moderate rhythm post-Deuce and could likely punk the Bucs in SuperDome.

at Hou - Sad times in the land of plenty. Matt Schaub picks apart a bedraggled Bucs defense, the Texans outrush Tampa Bay and the Houston FG kicker bangs 4+ through the uprights.

ATL - Bucs crush Atlanta and December retail outlets in the TBay area are grateful.

at SF - Seems like a maybe, except Alex Smith should be back in saddle for Niners and by this point the 4-10 Bucs really won’t give a crap about a west coast Roadie two days before Christmas.

CAR - Another possible late season fun win as Bucs play spoiler versus the Panthers who will be trying to get some momentum entering the playoffs as NFC South champs - albeit with maybe just eight or nine wins.
 

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The Bucs caught some attention with three wins in first four weeks.

Versus teams that are now a combined 3-11

And the team with the three wins - Carolina - garnered them against three teams that are a combined 0-14.

BUCS in 2006 won four times

vs Cincy 14-13
vs Phi 23-21 thanks to two Ronde Barber INT TD returns and a SIXTY TWO YARD field goal as time expired

vs Was 20-17, a team that would finish last in NFC East
at Cle 22-7, a team that would finish last in AFC North


Mix in their 10-17 playoff loss to Washington to end 2005 and this club's W/L record is now 7-15 with no wins against a team with winning record save for the PHI win
 

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Long winded way of cautioning any support of Bucs versus teams with winning records or chance at same - beginning with this upcoming week's 3-1 Tennesse Titans, who should smoke TBay in the CITS Sunday afternoon.
 

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Dug a little deeper in the poop file and it gets even stinkier.

Bucs have only TWO wins versus teams with winning records in their PAST FIFTY FOUR outings.

I wish I was making that stat up.

Even in their Division winning season two years ago, they had only one win versus a winning team.
 

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Barman, who are you a fan of?

For a team that plays 45 minutes away from you, you sure seem to spit a lot of venom at them.

I think fish does the same. When I lived in clearwater, I was a very supportive Bucs fan!
 

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As as devoted Bucs fans, I agree that the 3 wins led to a false belief that this team was any good. An offensive line that allows RBs to put out 12 carry 20 yard performances consistently is not one that can be ridden into the playoffs. The defense has been steadily declining since the year before the Super Bowl. Patches like Garcia and Galloway only serve to put gauze on the wound. Dungy's team won the Super Bowl and Chucky merely inherited it. Since then they have been horrible and this year should be no different.
 

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somebody has to win this division. 8-8 could do it. Carolina is no great shakes themselves
 

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I'm a Buc fan too but never really been happy with Gruden. Wins a SuperBowl then badmouths his GM at the winter meetings a few weeks later? All so he could get Allen to follow him down there from Oakland? Team has sucked ever since Rich McKay left. I still root for them but have zero confidence in either the coaching staff or front office.
 

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As week as the NFL South is, the Bucs should win the South now that Carolina has lost Jake Delhomme for the season and may possibly start 43 yr old Vinny Testaverde. The Saints and Falcons not showing much, should fight it out to stay out of the cellar. Besides last yrs last place team in the South usually finish 1st the next season.
 
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abviously Barman isnt a real Bucs fan....if he was he would never say all that stufdf about his team 3-2 leading the division with a weak 2nd half schedule...playing great Dominating defense with the exception of Colts game, which Peyton does that to most...and recieving great QB play....
 

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Barman, who are you a fan of?

For a team that plays 45 minutes away from you, you sure seem to spit a lot of venom at them.

I think fish does the same. When I lived in clearwater, I was a very supportive Bucs fan!

FUNK, I am a fan of the greenback rather than any particular jersey color.

Doesn't mean I don't enjoy watching and cheering for any pro or college program that appears to have its act together and thus have a legit shot at success.

Bucs don't meet that muster since they walked off of the Super Bowl field five and a half years ago.
 

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As week as the NFL South is, the Bucs should win the South now that Carolina has lost Jake Delhomme for the season and may possibly start 43 yr old Vinny Testaverde. The Saints and Falcons not showing much, should fight it out to stay out of the cellar. Besides last yrs last place team in the South usually finish 1st the next season.

SH: No team has ever won a division with only six or seven wins, which is far as the Bucs will get.
 

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abviously Barman isnt a real Bucs fan....if he was he would never say all that stufdf about his team 3-2 leading the division with a weak 2nd half schedule...playing great Dominating defense with the exception of Colts game, which Peyton does that to most...and recieving great QB play....

SH: A "weak second half schedule" is not much solace if your own team is even weaker.

And they played "dominating defense" versus the 0-4 Saints, 0-5 Rams and 3-2 Panthers (whose own three wins were against those same Saints, Rams and 0-5 Falcons).

Plus Panthers were playing with D Carr in his first start.

Panthers should slip into drivers seat with Vinny T playing the role of Jim Plunkett.
 

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Bucs fan here!!!

The D seems revamped TY.
Bucs still the odds on FAV to win division at all sportsbooks. The Bucs still have a big home field advantage and have heald serve while winning @ Carolina (2-0 in division helps as well). Garcia's smartness at QB combined with the D will get TB a few more wins.

The 3 wins weren't just squeaked out either, they dominated all 3. In all aspects of the game.

The 2 games they lost were given losses @ Seatle and @ INDY, no matter.

I'd have to say its a 2 team race between Carolina and Tampa, and Tampa showed them what's up.


EVEN making this thread BM shows they are doing well IMO. If Garcia plays out the schedule they win the division PERIOD. They are one bad hit from 3-13 with Gradkowski leading the way.


You could say the same shit about the Patriots wins over the SHITTY Bills, Browns, Jets, Chargers and Bungles.

I just can't name that many good NFC teams which puts the Bucs in OK position.
 

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Panthers schedule:

The last game of the year could be huge:


<TABLE class=yspwhitebg cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 9/9</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> at St. Louis</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> W 27-13</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap> Sun 9/16</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> Houston</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> L 21-34</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap> Sun 9/23</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> at Atlanta</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> W 27-20</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap> Sun 9/30</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> Tampa Bay</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> L 7-20</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap> Sun 10/7</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> at New Orleans</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> W 16-13</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap> Sun 10/14</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> at Arizona</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> 4:05 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap> </TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> bye</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap> Sun 10/28</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Indianapolis</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> 1:00 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap> Sun 11/4</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> at Tennessee</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> 1:00 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap> Sun 11/11</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> Atlanta</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> 1:00 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap> Sun 11/18</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> at Green Bay</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> 1:00 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap> Sun 11/25</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> New Orleans</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> 1:00 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap> Sun 12/2</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> San Francisco</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> 1:00 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap> Sun 12/9</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> at Jacksonville</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> 1:00 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap> Sun 12/16</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Seattle</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> 1:00 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap> Sat 12/22</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Dallas</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> 8:15 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap> Sun 12/30</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> at Tampa Bay</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap> 1:00 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD colSpan=3><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=yspscores> </TD><TD class=yspscores align=right> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Should be dogs in 8 of their remaining 11 games.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 

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