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I see the informative thread about sportsbooks to stay away from was moved to the RR. I feel this is a very important type of thread to have here so that newbies or anyone in general dont deposit their hard earned money into fraud sportsbooks. I will start off listing the most obvious of the sportsbooks to stay away from, please add to this thread.


STAY AWAY FROM....

1. Sportsbook.com
 

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10.04.2007 (10:44 PM CST)
Beware of BetCasinoSport (SBR rating D-)
The sportsbook is stepping up its email campaign with 40% cash bonus offers up to $5,000. Spreading the word of high bonuses instead of investing in advertising is usually a sign that the sportsbook does not have the funds to make an initial investment and is unlikely to have the financial backing to survive a long winning streak by players, who are already ahead with bonus cash. It is common for these sportsbooks to fail, disappear and attempt to take another shot with a new name and similar bonus offers. SBR has also learned that BetCasinoSport shares the same server IP address as the website WagerParadise.com which is operated by the owner of Bet33 (SBR rating F) and stiff sportsbook, Apex Sports (SBR rating F).
 

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10.13.2007 (12:05 AM CST)
SCAM: Latest Bets4All (SBR rating F) victims told they will not be paid because they are either "professional players," have "inside information" or are "bookmakers" themselves. Bets4All has previously told SBR that slow-paid players must disclose how they obtained their picks before they would be paid. In the past month six players have reported a no-pay complaint and are owed an average of $2,000. Bet4All will not answer emails or allow players to speak to a decision maker.
 

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09.15.2007 (06:06 PM CST)
BetOnUSA (SBR rating D) loses players' pending wagers to go with multiple reports of missing withdrawal requests after switching from the Sportsbook.com platform. This is not uncommon for the operations involved. Some users saw their pending wagers and accounts deleted when Sportingbet PLC sold its American-focused brands to Jazette Enterprises Ltd.
 

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I never even question books I play at because I know the right ones where you have no problems but many just do not know.
 

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5/30/2007 11:19 PM

betmania (SBR rating D+) Update: Following yesterday's report of player complaints SBR has received additional slow-pay claims. One player was told that he was not paid because the book has given players who are still betting priority. The same player was told he was "third on the payouts list" two weeks earlier. SBR has also received two claims from advertisers, one of which says he was told that monthly payments will not be released until after the baseball season.
 

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08.22.2007 (04:42 PM CST)
BetChance (SBR rating D) complaints pour into the SBR mailbox
29 players reported slow-pays by Moneybookers, bank wires and credit cards in the month of August. The company owes an estimated $50,000 USD to these players and currently only offers instructions for how to redeem funds up to the amount deposited. The sportsbook blames technical issues and a large amount of simultaneous payout requests for these delays. BetChance has failed to respond to many of these users by email and phone calls have not been answered. Players are advised to pursue withdrawals as soon as possible from BetChance, which has been downgraded from D+ to D today.
 

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07.11.2007 (10:23 PM CST)
SportsInteraction downgraded from C- to D+
The downgrade is a result of the latest funds confiscation complaint by a player who had five months of winnings voided as well as previous incidents over the past six months where SIA applied rules that did not exist. These players accuse SportsInteraction of taking a wait-and-see approach and applying unlisted policies to their large accounts. SIA has added to its rules pages after discussing incidents with SBR but refuses to honor the winnings in question.
 

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are we talking "all" sportsbooks or just the one's the r/x sponsors ??


this is the bad one's i found on a different site.... with ratings !!!

sportsbook.com D+ just like we know about O.J. WE KNOW ABOUT THEM !!
betmania D
sbg global D-
sportsbetting D+
all star D +
lazer wager D +
odds maker D -




now the "good" one's the r/x sponsors are !!

bodog A +
bet chris A +
5 dimes A
diamond A +
bet jamaica A + this one kicks "ass"
wsex A-
bet online A-
matchbook A-
bookmaker A+
the pig A
jazz sports B
just bet B+
 

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I see the informative thread about sportsbooks to stay away from was moved to the RR. I feel this is a very important type of thread to have here so that newbies or anyone in general dont deposit their hard earned money into fraud sportsbooks. I will start off listing the most obvious of the sportsbooks to stay away from, please add to this thread.


STAY AWAY FROM....

1. Sportsbook.com

Five Star,

First, thanks for the support in the now 'rubber-roomed' thread.

Initially, the thread was moved, because Wil had indicated someone made a 'farce' out of the thread (I think he was referencing GDEAD and namecalling - but GDEAD merely used the :happyass: icon at the bottom of the page. Not really sure what the use of that icon is for anyway). Understanding why the thread was move, I began another thread with a similar title. That thread was immediately merged to the one in the rubber room and I subsequently found myself on post review.

To Wil's credit he did respond (very early in the morning - indicating quite a long day on his part) to my email requesting an explanation for my being placed on post review (I did note a ban would be preferred to selective editing/posting of what I write).

Essentially, the explanation was (and I'm just paraphrasing the response - Wil is welcome to clarify) that only posters who actually had an issue with a sponsor in question could begin such a thread (so, five star, unless you have had a personal experience, I am unsure how long this thread will last). Wil noted I could begin a thread with a title along the lines of 'Sportsbook.com incorrectly grades parlays' (or something similar). He further noted I wouldn't be able to stand in a restaurant and notify incoming customers of the bad food or service ('see how long that would last' I think was the quote). Ultimately, if I wanted to address the sportsbook.com situation in the manner I had chosen to express myself then I should 'spend 100s of thousands of dollars to start a forum similar to the RX'

BTW, I would give Wil further credit in noting that RX is indeed a business. Certainly, they are willing to help out posters in disputes. But, worrying about the state of the online indiustry as a whole does not seem to be priority.

I think what was most upsetting in Wil's response is the insinuation that somehow I was unable to make an informed opinion/response about any sportsbooks (sponsors or not), unless I had a personal experience with them. It seemd as though only experience, not information, is the only tool one should use to arrive at a conclusion. It makes me wonder if I would be able to start a thread titled "DON'T have underage oral sex with someone in the State of Georgia". I will openly admit that back in 1986 (when I was 17) I was living on a military base in Mannheim, Germany with my family and have no personal experience of underage oral sex in Georgia.

I have long been a proponent of 'less is more' when it comes to government intervention. However, I was shocked over the course of the last 10-12 hours to begin to feel a change in attitude as it relates to the online industry. If we are unable to openly express our opinions and make warnings about verifiable missteps by sportsbooks, it might well be necessary for the government to do so.

Finally, Wil did take me off of post review. For that, he has my thanks (and my respect for being a military veteran). I realize this is a business, and the RX has the right to determine what (and in what manner) things are said. Hopefully, I've said this the "right" way.

So, after all of this, I would say "While I haven't ever posted at sportsbook.com (thanks to many board members and their warning), I would recommend anyone thinking about sending this operation cash read every article you can find on them before doing so"
 
Bet Royal and SBG Global

They stole 30 players accounts for total over $200,000. New victims are coming forward every day. Eduardo at SBG Global was quoted as bragging about how he ripped off these customers and there is "nothing they can do about it".

<EDIT> No links please
 

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are we talking "all" sportsbooks or just the one's the r/x sponsors ??


this is the bad one's i found on a different site.... with ratings !!!

sportsbook.com D+ just like we know about O.J. WE KNOW ABOUT THEM !!
betmania D
sbg global D-
sportsbetting D+
all star D +
lazer wager D +
odds maker D -




now the "good" one's the r/x sponsors are !!

bodog A +
bet chris A +
5 dimes A
diamond A +
bet jamaica A + this one kicks "ass"
wsex A-
bet online A-
matchbook A-
bookmaker A+
the pig A
jazz sports B
just bet B+


BODOG A+??????????
 

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Bet Jamaica, 5 dimes and Matchbook/WSEX are really the only books you need.

Bodog at A+ is a joke.
 

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Not sure how WSEX and Betonline have the same rankings.

I think WSEX is A+ in just about everyones book....
 

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BODOG A+??????????

My thoughts exactly. Seems obvious that Blowdog is paying off SBR to get that rating. No way that any fair and impartial watchdog can claim that Blowdog is an A+ book. A- or B+ MAYBE, but having them at A+ is totally ridiculous.
 

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