Who is a better hitter?? Vladimir Guerrero or David Ortiz????

Not clutch just a better hitter....

I'll take Ortiz.

Ortiz.

Vlad is only the best "bad ball" hitter in the game in my opinion. Big Papi is a better hitter than Vlad...

Vlad in a heartbeat. Vlad has the ability to hit to all fields. I'd love to see Ortiz try and put up Vlads numbers in the angels offense. He'd never touch vlads batting average regardless of what team he is on.

Neither I'll take Maggilo over both of them. I think Ordonez is the most underrated player in the game period.

Ortiz is more of power hitter but Vlad can hit into more part of the fields than Ortiz can

Thing is Vlad has never really had anyone to protect him in the lineup... Ortiz has had Manny for his whole Boston career. If Vlad had Manny to protecct him I think he would be the better hitter.

Manny was out a bunch of games this year and Ortiz's production went down... coincidence.... i think not.

Got to give it to Vlad

Vlad if game was on line

Stats...

Vlad
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Yes, Vlad has one more year than Pappi but Pappi would have to hit 100 HR's and drive in 300 runs and have to raise his career batting average .35 points to match Vlad's 11 year production. Plus Vlad played for the Expos (practically a farm team) for a majority of his career.

Surprised to see every one on Ortiz.....

I think Vlad is much better :aktion033

VoiceofReason101 said:

Neither I'll take Maggilo over both of them. I think Ordonez is the most underrated player in the game period.

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Because of one freak season? Dont be silly. No doubt hes solid but hes not on either of these players levels as hitters. He hits with less than vlads power with nowhere near the same average.

part of being a good hitter is taking a walk when the pitcher will give you one. ortiz walks a ton more than vlad.

that being said, i think vlad is a better hitter. but, if the game were on the line, i'd want ortiz at the plate.

smartz said:

Because of one freak season? Dont be silly. No doubt hes solid but hes not on either of these players levels as hitters. He hits with less than vlads power with nowhere near the same average.

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I was merely trying to break the trend obviously Vlad is the best out of these three. David is clutch though so that does give him validity.

In the end the kid to watch will be Miguel Cabrera. But there is so many great hitters than can easily be argued as the best: Pujols, Ramirez (think if he actually gave a fcuk), Ichiro (why not because he lacks power?), Holliday, Arod, Vlad, Ortiz, etc.

Lot of great hitters in this era.

Another thing...Ortiz has struck out about 150 times more than Vlad despite playing one less season...

blue edwards said:

part of being a good hitter is taking a walk when the pitcher will give you one. ortiz walks a ton more than vlad.

that being said, i think vlad is a better hitter. but, if the game were on the line, i'd want ortiz at the plate.

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Yah walks mean alot but vlad still has a better on base percentage than ortiz over the course of his career. So him drawing more walks means practically nothing.

I am a Sox fan and I would pick Vlad.

He also has a cannon arm in OF

More East Coast Bias, Papi Fans 3X more than Big Daddy Vladdy. Vlad has no protection and plays in more pitcher parks.

Over the most recent years Ortiz has done far more to help his team when the bat is in his hands. Guerrero is a great defensive player and they still are pretty equal in MVP voting, as far as hitting is concerned, that has to favor the DH

Early in their careers Guerrero was a lot better. He is also not fat and not coming off knee surgery, so he is likely to do better in the future

TomGshotput said:

Over the most recent years Ortiz has done far more to help his team when the bat is in his hands. Guerrero is a great defensive player and they still are pretty equal in MVP voting, as far as hitting is concerned, that has to favor the DH

Early in their careers Guerrero was a lot better. He is also not fat and not coming off knee surgery, so he is likely to do better in the future

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Well said, you have me second guessing myself. For some reason Guerrero stepping to the plate isnt as intimidating as it once was. You most certainly could not say the same for Ortiz, guy is always a threat with the game on the line.

whalewager said:

Vlad if game was on line

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wow. dumbest move ever.

Ortiz is the greatest clutch hitter out there.


And this is coming from a die hard yankees fan.