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I have an upstairs doorway leading from a bedroom to a balcony in a condo. This was built improperly... flashing not installed correctly.

I found this water damage when removing carpet. The top chord of the floor truss is entirely rotted through, that is serious structural damage !

Is it feasible to go after the Association to repair this ? They are very difficult to deal with.

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I'm no expert and I'm sure someone else can anwser this better, but I think it would first of all denpend on where you live. But I think you would have a hard time going after the association. Your probably better off trying to go after the builder or the inspector that passed the condo. I do have a residential contractors license and I know that down here in Florida where I live there was a homebuilder that just payed a shitload of money to hurricane victims about 4 years ago for building houses that weren't up to code. As far as fixing the damge. If it's only 1 floor truss, it probably won't be that hard to fix.

If I had to guess I would say your probably getting stuck with the bill, but I've seen crazier things.

 

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Did you build and sub it out? How long has it been? I would go after the individual contractor... Your leaving out some details.

 

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#1cheater# said:

Did you build and sub it out? How long has it been? I would go after the individual contractor... Your leaving out some details.

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No, I didn't build it. It is about 20 years old.

 

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I put in that new looking piece of plywood to strengthen it up some. I'm probably going to wind up backing it as good as possible and fit in a 57" X 24" of 3/4" plywood ( spanning two trusses, and do the best I can with it.

 

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Doug said:

I have an upstairs doorway leading from a bedroom to a balcony in a condo. This was built improperly... flashing not installed correctly.

I found this water damage when removing carpet. The top chord of the floor truss is entirely rotted through, that is serious structural damage !

Is it feasible to go after the Association to repair this ? They are very difficult to deal with.

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i am on the board at my place and we would never pay for this,most associations are responsible out side the walls only.

we have however steered many people to their ho6 policy to pay for inside water damage and all have been thankful and all were paid by their insurance. law could be different where you live but i doubt it...


noticed one thing you said about the association being hard to deal with? i also used to think that and was fed up with our board,well 9 years ago i went to a meeting to raise hell and ended up getting on the board and have been on since..it helps to know what really goes on and takes up very little time...you should try it i think you would love it and they probably have vacancies as everyone just likes to bitch and very few want to get on...it will open your eyes big time and also will help you "keep control" over what goes on:toast:

 

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I can't tell in the pic. It's hard to see but what is that truss supporting exactly. Is this truss a girder truss that is holding other trusses that run the other way? Either way it doesn't look like it would be hard to fix and if you can do it yourself I wouldn't even bother filing a insurance claim. Because the house is 20 years old I would say you have close to a zero % chance of getting anything from anybody else.

 

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The floor truss is bottom chord bearing and since the damage is at the end of the truss top chord, it is not that big of a deal and can be easily repaired. If the building is indeed 20 years old, you have no hope of being compensated for the damage.

 

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EasyMoney said:

I can't tell in the pic. It's hard to see but what is that truss supporting exactly. Is this truss a girder truss that is holding other trusses that run the other way? Either way it doesn't look like it would be hard to fix and if you can do it yourself I wouldn't even bother filing a insurance claim. Because the house is 20 years old I would say you have close to a zero % chance of getting anything from anybody else.

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It supports the subflooring mainly. I've cut out about an 8" slice of the floor in front of the doorway. It's rotted under the doorjamb ( hinge side) also. I'm going to cut it back to the middle of the next truss, nail a 2X4 on it's side where the gap is, then sheet it. It should be adequate. I'll reflash under the new sill, and use a lot of mastic.

It would be better to remove the door frame entirely, but I don't want to go that far with it.

 

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Doug you are a handy son of a bitch. You usually answer your own questions in these threads but I find them interesting.




what is this flashing and reflashing that you speak of

 

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WVU said:

Doug you are a handy son of a bitch. You usually answer your own questions in these threads but I find them interesting.




what is this flashing and reflashing that you speak of

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sheet metal. It was done poorly leading to the problem. I took off an exterior trim board on the balcony side. It was rotted, and the metal flashing behind it didn't go up high enough to prevent a hard rain from getting wet who knows how many times in 20 years.

 

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WVU said:

Doug you are a handy son of a bitch. You usually answer your own questions in these threads but I find them interesting.




what is this flashing and reflashing that you speak of

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You can see some flashing around the doorway in this Google photo. Don't look at the guy's butt though.

 

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It came out good. I basically framed it with 2X4's,then re-sheeted the subfloor and put lots of mastic ( tar) on the outer edge, plus flashed it with sheet metal. No photo, the original pic was from a borrowed digital-cam. I need to buy one of those things !