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Beat the Patriots or take Brady out for the season to prove a point.

This is a really dangerous road that Belichick has decided to go down-on the "eveweek" of the Colts game, nonetheless.

If anyone on the Indy D gets ahold of him, don't be surprised when you see the single leg wrap & barrel roll.

Just a gut feeling that it's a pretty good possibility. Not sure it will be the Colts to do it, but Belichick is putting a pretty big bullseye on Brady.

Time will tell.
 

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It works both ways.
Manning can end up with a broken shoulder too.

Your just promoting that stupid ass ESPN hate speech.
 

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I don't think the Pat's players are a-holes, just Belichick.
 

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The Colts won't do it - but one of these teams down by 30 in the 4rd with Brady going to the shotgun is going to attempt a cheap shot.
 
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Your just promoting that stupid ass ESPN hate speech.

No....even though it's the NFL, I suspect that there are some unwritten rules that may have been broken. The staff member with the camera & press creds was pretty low-at least getting busted for it was(leaving the door open to it being "common" in the NFL).

You'd think Belichick might lay low a bit after that, but he's done the complete opposite.

I've just got a hunch that someone is going to snap & take a cheap shot to prove a point before the season is over.
 

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The Colts won't do it - but one of these teams down by 30 in the 4rd with Brady going to the shotgun is going to attempt a cheap shot.

yep, dungy has too much class to do that...maybe mangini sends out his goons to take out brady
 

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You'd think Belichick might lay low a bit after that, but he's done the complete opposite

Why should he lay low its the media who questioned the Pats winning by only a few points...and its the players who are just as pissed.
Its the Pats who are trying to prove a point.

Its funny how everyone not so indignant when Manning was running up the score to break Marinos NFL record.
 
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do you people ever stop whining about the patriots?

can only imagine how much worse it will get if they go 19-0
 

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« Is There an Echo Here?
Running it up? »

Distant Karma

Baseball is full of unwritten rules. You’re not supposed to try to steal a base if you’re up big. You don’t lay down a bunt in the late innings if the other pitcher has a no-hitter going. There was even one situation in this year’s playoffs where a pitcher didn’t like the way that a particular batter dropped his bat after ball four. Someone needs to write down all of these rules so that we can keep track of them but then, of course, they wouldn’t be unwritten rules.
There are not many such rules in football. Most transgressions that might be considered unsportsmanlike have had legislation attached to them that draws a 15-yard penalty. Yell at a player lying unconscious on the ground, draw a 15-yard flag. Taunt an opponent on your way to the end zone, get backed up 15 on the ensuing kickoff.
A grey area in all of this is running up the score. There is no penalty for it but some consider it to be the supreme act of unsportsmanlike conduct.
And, make no mistake about it, the New England Patriots ran up the score in their 52-7 thrashing of the Redskins. They kept on trying to score points when they had the game well in hand. That’s running up the score.
The question is—is there anything wrong, unfair, or unsportsmanlike about that?
In the NFL, the answer is no. This isn’t an NCAA power team beating up on a lowly 1-AA opponent. The Redskins and the Patriots compete on a level playing field. To steal a concept from Steve Spurrier, it isn’t Bill Belichick’s job to stop the Patriots from scoring. It’s Gregg Williams’ job and he and the 11 players on the field didn’t get it done.
After the game, Gibbs said that he had no problem at all with what the Patriots did. He shouldn’t. In 1991, Gibbs’ Redskins had a comfortable 35-17 lead over the Falcons going into the fourth quarter. Rather than call running plays to kill the clock, Gibbs had Mark Rypien throw the ball. He threw touchdown passes of 82 yards to Gary Clark and of 64 yards to Art Monk. And these weren’t dinky passes with a lot of missed tackles and YAC. They were bombs away. That made it 49-17 and Andre Collins finished off the scoring with a touchdown on a return of Bret Favre’s first NFL pass. Nobody clad in burgundy and gold complained about the score being run up.
You can go back further in the history of the franchise to find more examples of running it up. In 1966 the Redskins held a 69-42 lead over the New York Giants in the last minute of the game. The Giants threw an incomplete pass on fourth down. Someone on the Redskins sideline—legend says it was bitter ex-Giant Sam Huff—wasn’t happy with 69 points and sent in the field goal team to push the score over 70. The Redskins and their fans celebrated being on the winning end of the highest scoring NFL game ever; nobody pointed out the cheap score at the end.
The Pats have their reasons for doing things the way that they do them. You can’t argue with their track record of success that Belichick has compiled over the past several years. The price for doing things that way is that the team and its fans will never be able to protest when another team kicks them when they are down. Such complaints will be devoid of any credibility after what has transpired this year.
What goes around comes around. It takes a while sometimes. John Lennon’s Instant Karma doesn’t always apply. On Sunday in Foxboro, the Redskins got a taste of what their predecessors dished out in the past. Someday, the Patriots will get theirs.
 

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Maybe Colonel Sanders will try and cheap shot Brady...

But in all reality,...those pricks should just play the game.

If "taking someone out" is on their agenda...then they are not professionals.

Act the part.

No need to lower themselves into classless horseshit...

The Rockies got their noses rubbed in shit all night in Gm1...not once did you see their pitchers throw at a single Red Sox player.
 

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yep, dungy has too much class to do that...maybe mangini sends out his goons to take out brady

Not the Colts. They won't be down enough to risk teh penalty, and Dungy and teh Colts themselves have more honor than that.

But some team, some time, down by a ridiculous amount in the 4th (or maybe just right off the bat in teh 1st) might.
 

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Its the Pats who are trying to prove a point.

Wouldn't that point be as well proven if they bench Brady when they no longer need him, as in 'we've got this wrapped up, game is over'?

I wonder if Brady himself is worried about being a target?
 

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Some playoff tie breakers do go down to points scored.

Would hate to lose home field over # of points scored. Colts play in a dome with a high powered offense and would suck for home field to be determined that way.

Bid difference from Foxboro/RCA DOME.


This is for a division tie but I think some it reverts to Home Field and seedings as well: (if both ended 14-2, 15-1 etc) But this game sunday would trump much of that between them.

Two Clubs
  1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
  2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
  3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
  4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
  5. Strength of victory.
  6. Strength of schedule.
  7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
  8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
  9. Best net points in common games.
  10. Best net points in all games.
  11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
Division wrapped up, even if Brady went down, but ya never know.
 

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As legit a fact as that is, it's not what's motivating Belicheck to keep Brady in the game.

Personally, I say, let Brady get hurt. I'm a Colts fan, so that works for me.
 

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No....even though it's the NFL, I suspect that there are some unwritten rules that may have been broken. .

What is the unwritten rule?

Would the Houston Oilers have been accused of running up the score in the playoff game against Buffalo? They eventually lost that game.

Check out this play-by-play:

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playb...yPage=tab_play_by_play&season=2004&week=REG12

In 2004, when Manning was going for the record of 49 TD's ... his team was up 34-9 ... Colts got the ball with 5 minutes left in the 3rd ... the Colts went on a 6 play drive to score a TD ... and Manning threw 4 times.

If you want to discuss the unwritten rules, please come with facts ... saying things like "I suspect that there are some unwritten rules that may have been broken" doesn't show much of anything except jealousy.
 

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Wouldn't that point be as well proven if they bench Brady when they no longer need him, as in 'we've got this wrapped up, game is over'?

I wonder if Brady himself is worried about being a target?

Brady plays a contact sport ... defensive linemen get paid to try hurt him ... they try all game to hurt him ... they don't rush him, and then ask him for his autograph ... and he has not missed a single start since 2001.

If teams could hurt Brady, they would.

If teams could beat the Pats, they would.

... and if you're talking about a cheap shot after the whistle, why bother doing that? Just hit him on the head with a bat when he doesn't have a helmet on and he's going through the tunnel - but that would take balls, and you might not play another down in the NFL.

This HURTING BRADY talk is just so immature ... it amazes me that the jealousy has come to this - people must feel helpless to bring this up.
 

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I am not arguing this one way or the other. But has points scored ever come into play? The odds would seem miniscule to me. How do 2 teams end up with the exact same strenth of schedule and victory?
 

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If any team is not going to hurt Brady, its Indy.. Hurt Brady and Manning will have the same result..

No other team needs their QB as much as INDY.
 

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The Colts won't do it - but one of these teams down by 30 in the 4rd with Brady going to the shotgun is going to attempt a cheap shot.

Not a single mofo has the guts to risk a 4 week suspension ...

This talk of getting at Brady is like the "Iraq War Monger" meeting ... the people who want the war are the last people you would see in a foxhole.
 

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Belichick can run up the score all he wants. It still won't erase the stigma that he likely used these same cheating techniques to win his super bowls with his marginally talented Patriot teams.
 

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