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ok, i think i get the basics? or tell me if im wrong. lets say the football spread for the colts or whoever is to win by 10. and at halftime they are up 7. so the book puts up whatever number they put up and you take the other side to hopefully win one of the sides. how often does the score fall right in between and you lose both bets? are there certain numbers in foots to avoid? how about baskets? thanks all.
 

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ok, i think i get the basics? or tell me if im wrong. lets say the football spread for the colts or whoever is to win by 10. and at halftime they are up 7. so the book puts up whatever number they put up and you take the other side to hopefully win one of the sides. how often does the score fall right in between and you lose both bets? are there certain numbers in foots to avoid? how about baskets? thanks all.
You got the basics down.

Remember, sometimes the pre-game bet you had never had a chance to be recovered at halftime (i.e. you pick a fav at -10 but at halftime, the favorite is down, 17-7; the 2H line would most likely be -7.5 to -10 for the favorite for 2H). Sure, you can bet +10 on the underdog now, but why bother when you could lose both bets if the favorite wins by a couple, 24-27? Or vice versa, you bet on the favorite again to "win the game" (betting the -10 2H line when down by 10), but the favorite loses the entire game by 24 anyway.

Basically, totals would be a better focus if you want to try and middle some bets.

Getting something like Over 42.5 for the game and then at halftime, the score is already say.... 17-10 (27 pts; leaving 16 left to go to hit 43 or more). The books can't put up a line of 16 pts to "duplicate the game total line" so they usually would make a line of uhh... O/U 21.5 to 23, probably.

That could be a middle attempt of several points if choosing the Under 23.5 for 2H as an example. It's up to the person's level of risk tolerance whether to middle or not, but obviously a total middle of 7.5 (come to think of it, 8.5 if dealing with a possibility of 2-pt plays in the 2H) could be worth getting for perhaps 20-40% of your game bet.

I have much more in mind but will stop for now. :)

* CalvinTy
 
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but how often does the number fall in between and u end up losing both bets?

You cannot lose both sides of a middle. That's why it's called a middle. Either you go 1-1 or it falls in the MIDDLE and you win both.

Example
Packers vs Cowboys
You get Cowboys -6.5 today
You get Packers -7.5 tomorrow

Cowboys win by 7, you win both bets. Otherwise, 1-1.

What you refer to (the middle loses) is referred to as a Polish middle. That means it's stupid to do.
 

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that's not middling..that's hedging your bet...big difference..middling is when you place both bets before the game starts..in your example, colts would favored by about 6..and you would treat the 2nd half bet independent of any other bets...
 

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ok, my apologies, so with regards to hedging, how often does it fall in the middle and u lose both bets? does someone have stats or a good idea?
 

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Completely depends on the situation. Generally never a good idea to hedge with any kind of window (pointwise) in the middle.
 

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that's not middling..that's hedging your bet...big difference..middling is when you place both bets before the game starts

No, middling is simply when you can win both bets and it doesn't matter when you place them. Hedges when using a spread are usually middles, although often not profitable middles.

how often does it fall in the middle and u lose both bets?

When you hedge you would prefer to place bets when both can lose. It can be profitable but it can also be quite dangerous.
 

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are there situations where you can have no chance of losing? i ask because i want to start live betting at matchbook or wsex, i want to get one side at a good low price, then take the other side for the halftime as long as the number doesnt fall in between. are there lots of chances like this? or few and far between?
 

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are there situations where you can have no chance of losing? i ask because i want to start live betting at matchbook or wsex, i want to get one side at a good low price, then take the other side for the halftime as long as the number doesnt fall in between. are there lots of chances like this? or few and far between?

Now you are on the right track. Don't expect any help on how to make this work for you. Figure it out.
 

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ok, i will try to figure out for myself, its good to know im on the right track. it doesnt seem like theres many opportunities for this though. havent seen any on wsex for this opp since ive been tracking, only since sat, but it sux to have to wait till thursday to see then. is it at least worth the time to check matchbook/wsex on each live betting game to see? thanks.
 

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ok, i will try to figure out for myself, its good to know im on the right track. it doesnt seem like theres many opportunities for this though. havent seen any on wsex for this opp since ive been tracking, only since sat, but it sux to have to wait till thursday to see then. is it at least worth the time to check matchbook/wsex on each live betting game to see? thanks.

Yes.
 
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The best stuff to middle are halftime totals depending if you are on the right side of the game total...sometimes big middles...
 

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