Interesting breakdown by Rasmussen

Willie99 · Dec 10, 2007

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_...didates_running_in_2008_presidential_election

For what it's worth.

Most candidates have a negative favorable/unfavorable rating except for McCain.

Under the category, would you vote "for or against", most candidates also have more people voting "against" them.

But Ron Paul brings those against numbers to some crazy heights. While most candidates have a "for or against" ratio of just under 50% (ie: 17% for & 36 % against), Ron Paul has a ratio of 9% for and 46% against. Despite having the smallest % of people that would vote for him, he has the largest % of people that would vote against him. That can't be a good thing.

Interesting, Rudy has the best ratio at 27/40.

Anyhow, I think this is another indication that Republicans really don't support Ron Paul.

JoeContrarian · Dec 10, 2007

It's one of many indicators.

I'm not sure Ron Paul would carry a single state as the Republican nominee.

Willie99 · Dec 10, 2007

Tizdoom, haven't you guys figured out how to hack Rasmussen yet.

Here is an idea. Maybe y'all can hack into the phone system of the scientific polling organizations and make their computer "randomly" call Paul supporters.

If this works, I want royalties.

tiznow · Dec 10, 2007

keep mocking

things growing very quickly in iowa as far as the numbers go

obviously ron paul within the "likely republican caucus/primary goer" ranks is either loved or hated anybody with half a brain can see that just look at this forum :lolBIG:

we don't need a ton of hardcore moonbats to get it done and have quite a bit of haters that either A. aren't even going to a caucus/primary to begin with or B. choosing one of 5 other guys

if the anti-paulers make up their minds by super tuesday and rally behind one guy than we are probably hopeless

:lol:

JoeContrarian · Dec 10, 2007

Good luck. In fairness to your non-strategy, caucus states are very volatile and unpredictable.

But even if you managed to pull off a miracle in IA catching a few people dozing, that trick will only work once.

I stand by my prediction: Ron Paul won't win a single state. And in the end, really, what else matters?

tiznow · Dec 10, 2007

well the problem i see is who is the base gonna rally behind if ron paul does rise up (say a 3rd in iowa, 1st in NH which i think is remote possibility)

buchanan did 2nd in iowa, and 1st in NH

than the media went apeshit on buchanan and bush steamrolled him with like 67% in SC

and it was game over

i just don't see they rallying behind any one guy to take paul down if he does make early noise

tiznow · Dec 10, 2007

Joe Contrarian said:
Good luck. In fairness to your non-strategy, caucus states are very volatile and unpredictable.

But even if you managed to pull off a miracle in IA catching a few people dozing, that trick will only work once.

I stand by my prediction: Ron Paul won't win a single state. And in the end, really, what else matters?

also as far as "non-strategy" goes the people working the campaign at various levels that have experience within the party long term are obviously a bulk from the buchanan days so they've been there done that

there are a few moonbats within the long time active GOP ranks as well :lolBIG:

JoeContrarian · Dec 10, 2007

"The Republican base will rally behind Ron Paul" :lolBIG:

You have no idea how out of touch you sound with idiotic statements like this.

I am a moderate conservative by "Republican base" standards. By moderate, I mean I am always willing to listen (and challenge) new ideas and I try and stake positions on the issues in the context of the BIG picture based on time honored principles. Yes, it's true...although I may love using hyperbole, humor and sarcasm to get my points across, I'm actually VERY pragmatic and fair.

If you can't win over me, tizdoom, you will not win over tens of millions of America First conservatives.

It has been a while since we've had such an abrasive personality in the GOP field. Independents and Democrats are not going to choose the Republican nominee.

Your weakness is the fact that you're invested in a cult of personality -- this makes you an easy target. It has nothing to do with the issues, as 94.6% of what Ron Paul says is CRAP! (And that's the bright side of Ron Paul.)

tiznow · Dec 10, 2007

i didn't say that!!!??

i said who are they going to rally behind of the 5??? to take paul down/silence his early noise

in the case of buchanan it was bush

the chance of paul being able to pull runaway victories (like 40%+) at any point and make a major statement is slim to none

but i think if he gets some momo going early he can pull 10-20% in most states from there on out the question is do they get behind one guy to have a few states before super tuesday where his 10-20% is beaten in a landslide and than they just rally with that guy from there on out

tiznow · Dec 10, 2007

all i'm saying is if paul does make early noise the base of anti-paulers better figure out who they are going all in with, or paul could hang around and have a shot

JoeContrarian · Dec 10, 2007

America, the road to progress and Ron Paul:

Willie99 · Dec 10, 2007

Joe, a self-described moderate Republican :shocked:

Joe my friend, if there really are neo-cons, you are one of them. :thumbsup:

I can't think of a "moderate" position you've taken.

Hell, you think 9 out of 10 Republicans are Rinos.

JoeContrarian · Dec 10, 2007

I am a moderate, Willie. I'm not a blind partisan ideologue -- it's about principles, damnit! Unlike most of the lunatics who throw stones at me, I recognize the pragmatic and political steps necessary to bring forward true change.

And there is no better candidate who exemplifies my moderate nature than Fred Thompson.

For example, on abortion, although I am a hardliner -- make every abortion illegal with the stroke of a pen -- I understand that is not where most of the country is as of this moment. On the other hand, I see the potential and tremendous opportunity before us for turning over Roe v. Wade. This is my number one focus. Screw the abortion debate, let's get rid of this awful liberal activist law and THEN we can look around and see where we're sitting on this issue and any further steps (if any) that need to be taken.

See? Pragmatism + principles = true progress. Now you know why LIBERALS HATE me. :103631605

On the other hand, with a President Elect Ron Paul, I'll be applying for immunity from Dick Cheney volunteering to be the next guy in the grassy knoll. Okay, okay...not so "moderate" but at least I'll be standing in line with millions of others. :thumbsup:

eek. · Dec 10, 2007

See.
Even Wullie thinks your nuts Joe.

We all luv ya tho 'cos you're a cute pit bull terrier freddie kruger kinda guy.

bblight · Dec 10, 2007

Joe Contrarian said:
I am a moderate, Willie. I'm not a blind partisan ideologue . :thumbsup:

I'm not a blind partisan ideologue

In my experience, most Republicans dance to their own music while most Democrats blindly march lockstep to the tune their leadership feeds them.

Even when Bill Clinton was caught in perjuring himself with a flagrant lie, the rank and file Democrats picked up the mantra that it was "only sex" - while the rest of us saw the truth for what it was.

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