Hudson responded, "You need to apologize to the millions of young people who looked up to you."
"Yes, sir," Vick said.
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"Yes, sir," Vick said.
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This one for me has been odd because Vick was one of my favorite players, and Id defend him to no end when he was attacked for not being the passing quarterback purists wanted.
This clashed with my being an absolute animal lover, the kind that helps stray dogs and cats, stuff like that.......
As far as Im concerned, nowadays, I hope he never gets out of that hole and never has the chance to 'redeem' himself.
This clashed with my being an absolute animal lover, the kind that helps stray dogs and cats, stuff like that.......
As far as Im concerned, nowadays, I hope he never gets out of that hole and never has the chance to 'redeem' himself.
I say he is out in 1 year good behavior, banned from 1 year nfl... look ricky williams was back.... PacMan was out for a year... I say he does his time... He better do alot of work for animal rights,.... Everybody makes mistakes,.. the key if he stays straight,,, I say he is back 2009 hola.. hell Vinny is playing for the Panthers...
You said it perfect. I identify with pretty much everything you said. Same here, it never bothered me Vick wasnt a great passer because the things he could do with his feet, I had never seen it before. He could sprint out one way and just stop on a dime and throw it for 40 yards or just take off again unevaded. He did all kinds of silly stuff.
But I love the dogs and the kittys, so I have mixed feelings also.
Vick's property will be auctioned Dec. 15
Daily Press (Newport News, Va.)
Published on: 12/07/07
Surry, Va. — For sale: A 15-acre country estate once owned by NFL star Michael Vick.
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The 4,600-square-foot white-brick house comes with two master bedrooms, jetted tubs, two fireplaces, hardwood flooring, spacious walk-in closets and a backyard full of dog houses and kennels.
"It will always be known as the Michael Vick house of Surry County, Virginia, because of what happened here," said Kyle Hause Jr., a Long & Foster real estate agent who will be auctioning the house Dec. 15.
Vick, a Newport News native and suspended Atlanta Falcons quarterback, owned the property that housed the Bad Newz Kennels dogfighting operation from 2001 to April 2007, when investigators uncovered the criminal activity. Vick and three others pleaded guilty this summer to a federal dogfighting conspiracy charge, and Vick will be sentenced Monday for his role in the operation.
A builder, Wilbur Ray Todd Jr., bought the property at 1915 Moonlight Road as an investment to auction off.
The house received a face-lift to prepare it for the auction. But the back yard was left untouched, save for some mowing, Hause said.
"This is exactly what was left here," Hause said.
Behind the basketball court and a black fence stand four buildings bearing "Posted no trespassing keep out" signs. Eight kennels with two layers of fencing take up one building that still smells faintly like dogs and that has an injection needle sitting on a ledge.
Inside another building, the initials "BNK" — Bad Newz Kennels — are written on a wooden beam.
On the second floor of the two-story building is where the bloody dogfights took place. Up a narrow pull-down stair is a cobwebbed room with three windows, each with a set of blinds. There are three lawn chairs, a fan, a heater, a CD player and a spent pack of Newport cigarettes.
Holes in the floor indicate where investigators removed evidence of blood spatters from the fights.
Scattered around the yard are dark-painted dog houses inside fenced kennels. There's also a row of kennels lined up on a concrete pad.
Walk further back in the yard and there's a clearing of about 40 more of dog houses. In some places, chains are left hooked around trees, presumably to tie up dogs.
All of it's likely visible from the log cabin next door, which can be seen through the leafless trees.
The property would be ideal for an animal lover who would have a legitimate use for the facilities, Hause said.
The house itself is "fit for a millionaire," Hause said, but it did need some work.
"The house was like a frat house when Mr. Todd purchased it," Hause said.
It was vacant for six months, except when it was searched by investigators. It had been broken into. The thief took three plasma televisions — 62-inch, 42-inch and 32-inch screens — among other things.
"They did it with a lot of force," Hause said. "They tore the back door off the hinges." The front door opens into a two-story foyer with a chandelier and hardwood flooring. It has master bedroom suites upstairs and down. The upstairs suite — Hause called it Vick's bedroom — had a fireplace in the wall between the bedroom and bathroom.
There's also an upstairs media room complete with a wet bar.
The kitchen downstairs comes with an island, granite countertops and built-in stainless-steel appliances.
Hauses places the value between $750,000 — about the house's assessed value — and $1.5 million. Todd paid $450,000 for it.
"To replace what you have here would cost about $1 million," Hause said.
Saturday from noon EST to 4 p.m. is the first public open house. More showings will be noon to 4 p.m. Sunday, noon to 5 p.m. Dec. 14 and starting at 9 a.m. on Dec. 15.
The auction will be noon Dec. 15. To qualify for bidding, buyers must put down a $10,000 deposit and bring a letter of credit from a bank or a lender's approval letter. The owner will decide that day at what price bidding will start, Hause said.
Daily Press (Newport News, Va.)
Published on: 12/07/07
Surry, Va. — For sale: A 15-acre country estate once owned by NFL star Michael Vick.
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The 4,600-square-foot white-brick house comes with two master bedrooms, jetted tubs, two fireplaces, hardwood flooring, spacious walk-in closets and a backyard full of dog houses and kennels.
"It will always be known as the Michael Vick house of Surry County, Virginia, because of what happened here," said Kyle Hause Jr., a Long & Foster real estate agent who will be auctioning the house Dec. 15.
Vick, a Newport News native and suspended Atlanta Falcons quarterback, owned the property that housed the Bad Newz Kennels dogfighting operation from 2001 to April 2007, when investigators uncovered the criminal activity. Vick and three others pleaded guilty this summer to a federal dogfighting conspiracy charge, and Vick will be sentenced Monday for his role in the operation.
A builder, Wilbur Ray Todd Jr., bought the property at 1915 Moonlight Road as an investment to auction off.
The house received a face-lift to prepare it for the auction. But the back yard was left untouched, save for some mowing, Hause said.
"This is exactly what was left here," Hause said.
Behind the basketball court and a black fence stand four buildings bearing "Posted no trespassing keep out" signs. Eight kennels with two layers of fencing take up one building that still smells faintly like dogs and that has an injection needle sitting on a ledge.
Inside another building, the initials "BNK" — Bad Newz Kennels — are written on a wooden beam.
On the second floor of the two-story building is where the bloody dogfights took place. Up a narrow pull-down stair is a cobwebbed room with three windows, each with a set of blinds. There are three lawn chairs, a fan, a heater, a CD player and a spent pack of Newport cigarettes.
Holes in the floor indicate where investigators removed evidence of blood spatters from the fights.
Scattered around the yard are dark-painted dog houses inside fenced kennels. There's also a row of kennels lined up on a concrete pad.
Walk further back in the yard and there's a clearing of about 40 more of dog houses. In some places, chains are left hooked around trees, presumably to tie up dogs.
All of it's likely visible from the log cabin next door, which can be seen through the leafless trees.
The property would be ideal for an animal lover who would have a legitimate use for the facilities, Hause said.
The house itself is "fit for a millionaire," Hause said, but it did need some work.
"The house was like a frat house when Mr. Todd purchased it," Hause said.
It was vacant for six months, except when it was searched by investigators. It had been broken into. The thief took three plasma televisions — 62-inch, 42-inch and 32-inch screens — among other things.
"They did it with a lot of force," Hause said. "They tore the back door off the hinges." The front door opens into a two-story foyer with a chandelier and hardwood flooring. It has master bedroom suites upstairs and down. The upstairs suite — Hause called it Vick's bedroom — had a fireplace in the wall between the bedroom and bathroom.
There's also an upstairs media room complete with a wet bar.
The kitchen downstairs comes with an island, granite countertops and built-in stainless-steel appliances.
Hauses places the value between $750,000 — about the house's assessed value — and $1.5 million. Todd paid $450,000 for it.
"To replace what you have here would cost about $1 million," Hause said.
Saturday from noon EST to 4 p.m. is the first public open house. More showings will be noon to 4 p.m. Sunday, noon to 5 p.m. Dec. 14 and starting at 9 a.m. on Dec. 15.
The auction will be noon Dec. 15. To qualify for bidding, buyers must put down a $10,000 deposit and bring a letter of credit from a bank or a lender's approval letter. The owner will decide that day at what price bidding will start, Hause said.
I thought the same thing when Tyson went to prison, thought he would be an absolute monster once he got out. It was the opposite, although he was in good shape from working out, his boxing skills had eroded and was or course much older and washed up.
It will probably be the same for Vick, he'll be in great shape, but a step slower and way out of practice. Will probably never be as good as he was before.
So that is 3 years away from the NFL. Right? This year plus two more most likely? He never had the best arm relying mostly on his legs and physical ability. That will be much different in 3 years. Oh he will get a chance for sure. The question is what will he have left? He will never be the same physically. It does not matter how much he works out. It isn't the same.
Two years or 18 months is long enough. It will be over before you know it and he will get a chance to live a nice life is he chooses. He still has to have big money. I just think his apolgy was only given because he had no choice. Hopefully he mellows and gets his life in order.
Two years or 18 months is long enough. It will be over before you know it and he will get a chance to live a nice life is he chooses. He still has to have big money. I just think his apolgy was only given because he had no choice. Hopefully he mellows and gets his life in order.
