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According to this article 16 past and present New York Yankees
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By RONALD BLUM and BEN WALKER

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Former senator George Mitchell calls on a reporter during a New York news conference Thursday about his report on the illegal use of steroids in baseball.
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NEW YORK --
Seven MVPs and 31 All-Stars - one for every position - and that still wasn't the worst of it for the long-awaited Mitchell Report. That infamy belonged to Roger Clemens, the greatest pitcher of his era. The Steroids Era.Seven-time Cy Young Award winner, eighth on the all-time list with 354 victories, an MVP and All-Star himself and once a lock for the Hall of Fame, Clemens now has another distinction: the biggest name linked by former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell to illegal use of steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs.
In all, Thursday's 409-page report identified 85 names to differing degrees, but, while he vehemently denied it through his lawyer, Clemens was the symbol.
Barry Bonds, already under indictment on charges of lying to a federal grand jury about steroids, Miguel Tejada and Andy Pettitte also showed up in the game's most infamous lineup since the Black Sox scandal.
"If there are problems, I wanted them revealed," commissioner Bud Selig said. "His report is a call to action, and I will act."
Doping was widespread by stars as well as scrubs, the report said, putting a question mark if not an asterisk next to baseball records and threatening the integrity of the game itself.
Eric Gagne, Gary Sheffield, Jason Giambi, Troy Glaus, Gary Matthews Jr., Paul Byrd, Jose Guillen, Brian Roberts, Paul Lo Duca and Rick Ankiel were among other current players in the report. Some were linked to Human Growth Hormone, others to steroids. Mitchell did not delve into stimulants.
"Those who have illegally used these substances range from players whose major league careers were brief to potential members of the Baseball of Hall of Fame," Mitchell wrote. "They include both pitchers and position players, and their backgrounds are as diverse as those of all major league players."
No one was hit harder than Clemens, singled out in nearly nine pages, 82 references by name. Much of the information on him came from former New York Yankees major league strength and conditioning coach Brian McNamee.
At 45, Clemens has not said whether he hopes to pitch next season.
The report was unlikely to trigger a wave of discipline. While a few players, such as Bonds, are subjects of ongoing legal proceedings, many of the instances cited by Mitchell were before drug testing began in 2003.
Mitchell said punishment was inappropriate in all but the most egregious cases, and Selig said decisions on any action would come "swiftly" on a case-by-case basis.
"We have approached these cases by looking at the period of time during which the conduct occurred and what our policy looked like for that point in time," said Rob Manfred, baseball's executive vice president for labor relations.
While the records will surely stand, several stars could pay the price in Cooperstown, much the way Mark McGwire was kept out of the Hall of Fame this year merely because of steroids suspicion.
Mitchell said the problems didn't develop overnight and there was plenty of blame to go around.
"Everyone involved in baseball over the past two decades - commissioners, club officials, the players' association and players - shares to some extent the responsibility for the Steroids Era," Mitchell said. "There was a collective failure to recognize the problem as it emerged and to deal with it early on."
Mitchell recommended that the drug-testing program be made independent, that a list of the substances players test positive for be listed periodically and that the timing of testing be more unpredictable.
"The illegal use of performance-enhancing substances poses a serious threat to the integrity of the game," the report said. "Widespread use by players of such substances unfairly disadvantages the honest athletes who refuse to use them and raises questions about the validity of baseball records."
Jose Canseco, whose book "Juiced" was cited throughout, was mentioned the most often - 105 times. Bonds was next at 103.
A total of 16 Yankees, past and present, were identified. Players were linked to doping in various ways - some were identified as users, some as buyers and some by media reports and other investigations.
"According to McNamee, from the time that McNamee injected Clemens with Winstrol through the end of the 1998 season, Clemens' performance showed remarkable improvement," the report said. "During this period of improved performance, Clemens told McNamee that the steroids 'had a pretty good effect' on him."
McNamee also told investigators that "during the middle of the 2000 season, Clemens made it clear that he was ready to use steroids again. During the latter part of the regular season, McNamee injected Clemens in the buttocks four to six times with testosterone from a bottle labeled either Sustanon 250 or Deca-Durabolin."
"It is very unfair to include Roger's name in this report," said Clemens' lawyer, Rusty Hardin. "He is left with no meaningful way to combat what he strongly contends are totally false allegations. He has not been charged with anything, he will not be charged with anything and yet he is being tried in the court of public opinion with no recourse. That is totally wrong."
"There has never been one shred of tangible evidence that he ever used these substances and yet he is being slandered today," said Hardin, who called McNamee a "troubled man."
Former Mets clubhouse attendant Kirk Radomski also provided information as part of his plea agreement in a federal steroids case.
"Former commissioner Fay Vincent told me that the problem of performance-enhancing substances may be the most serious challenge that baseball has faced since the 1919 Black Sox scandal," Mitchell said.
Rafael Palmeiro, who tested positive for steroids, was among the former players named. So were Kevin Brown, Benito Santiago, Lenny Dykstra, Chuck Knoblauch, David Justice, Mo Vaughn, Wally Joyner and Todd Hundley.
Mike Stanton, Scott Schoeneweis, Ron Villone and Jerry Hairston Jr. were among the other current players identified.
"We identify some of the players who were caught up in this drive to gain a competitive advantage," the report said. "Other investigations will no doubt turn up more names and fill in more details, but that is unlikely to significantly alter the description of baseball's 'steroids era' as set forth in this report."
One player mentioned but not expressly accused was McGwire. His use of Androstenedione during his 1998 home run race with Sammy Sosa set off baseball's first concerns about steroids.
Testifying before Congress in 2005, McGwire refused to talk about his past, and refused as well to cooperate with Mitchell. The report recounts all that without making any accusations.
Sosa, who testified with McGwire and denied knowingly using steroids, also was spared by Mitchell.
The report took issue with assertions that steroids were not banned before the 2002 collective bargaining agreement.
They had been covered, it said, since management's 1971 drug policy prohibited using any prescription medication without a valid prescription, and were expressly included in Vincent's 1991 drug policy.
"Steroids have been listed as a prohibited substance under the Major League Baseball drug policy since then," the report said, although no player was disciplined for them until the 2002 labor agreement provided for testing.
Mitchell questioned whether players were tipped off about testing. He said a former player, whom he didn't identify, claimed he had been given two weeks' notice of a drug test by Gene Orza, the union's No. 2 official, in September 2004. Orza did not respond to a message seeking comment.
Mitchell is a director of the Boston Red Sox, and some questioned whether that created a conflict, especially because none of their prime players were in the report.
"Judge me by my work," Mitchell said. "You will not find any evidence of bias, special treatment, for the Red Sox or anyone else. That had no effect on this investigation or this report, none whatsoever."
Giambi, under threat of discipline from Selig, and Frank Thomas were the only current players known to have cooperated with the Mitchell investigation.
"The players' union was largely uncooperative for reasons that I thought were largely understandable," Mitchell said.
Union head Donald Fehr made "no apologies" for the way they represented players.
"Many players are named. Their reputations have been adversely affected, probably forever," he said. "Even if it turns out down the road that they should not have been."
Certainly a lot of people read the names. The report was downloaded 1.8 million times off MLB.com in the first three hours after it was posted.
About two hours after the report was released, two congressmen at the forefront of Capitol Hill's involvement in the steroids issue asked Mitchell, Selig and Fehr to testify at a House committee hearing next Tuesday.
California Democrat Henry Waxman and Virginia Republican Tom Davis - the leaders of the panel that held the March 17, 2005, hearing at which McGwire, Palmeiro and Sosa testified - want to know "whether the Mitchell Report's recommendations will be adopted and whether additional measures are needed," they said.
Also, a Congressional subcommittee will hold a hearing on Jan. 23 relating to steroid use in professional sports.
AP Sports Writers Rachel Cohen and Bill Konigsberg and AP Sports Writer Howard Fendrich in Washington contributed to this report.
 

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there is that many yankees because Mitchell got alot of his info from a guy that worked for the Yankees and more specifically Clemens. If you could get the personal trainer for the Tampa Bay Devil Rays to talk you would see that they would have just as many players taking roids.
 
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there is that many yankees because Mitchell got alot of his info from a guy that worked for the Yankees and more specifically Clemens. If you could get the personal trainer for the Tampa Bay Devil Rays to talk you would see that they would have just as many players taking roids.

Good point.
 

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there is that many yankees because Mitchell got alot of his info from a guy that worked for the Yankees and more specifically Clemens. If you could get the personal trainer for the Tampa Bay Devil Rays to talk you would see that they would have just as many players taking roids.

Bingo, I think there are a ton of NYM in there as well. You have to consider the sources of information. Basically everyone in baseball closed ranks and the information came from a few sources, BALCO investigation, Florida lab investigation, investigation into NYM clubhouse guy and someone somehow affiliated with NYY. My guess is NYY and NYM are reasonable samplings of all the teams in the league, just wasn't information about KC, Texas, LAD, LAA, etc.
 

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Maybe cuz Mitchell is a director in the Red Sox front office.
 

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Talked to 2 former players today..both played in say 99-2004. They said between them they could not name 15 players who DIDNT use .......In other words everybody was doing it. The report is (like most govt reports) a joke.....
 

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Maybe cuz Mitchell is a director in the Red Sox front office.


Thats right.....I forgot about that..........I cant believe more isnt being made about this.

That is exactly the reason (if indeed true) why the Yankees had the most names! LMAO.

Was there even a single Red Sox player named?
 

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Thats right.....I forgot about that..........I cant believe more isnt being made about this.

That is exactly the reason (if indeed true) why the Yankees had the most names! LMAO.

Was there even a single Red Sox player named?

Um, yea. Among other things. Gee, this thread was started by someone with a Red Sox avatar? Shocking. How many threads would have been started about "GAY"Rod, as you guys like to call him, if he was listed in the report. I'll put the O/U at 10. This place gets better and better everyday. Keep it up!
 

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Funny I talked to a player today that couldn't believe his name was not mentioned in the report. Yes 15 seem very high for non users. I would say the number might be as low as 2. I still get a chuckle ever time I see John Rockers name on the list. They better not ever check the minor leagues because if you arent jucing down there you aren't playing up in the bigs.




Talked to 2 former players today..both played in say 99-2004. They said between them they could not name 15 players who DIDNT use .......In other words everybody was doing it. The report is (like most govt reports) a joke.....
 

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there is that many yankees because Mitchell got alot of his info from a guy that worked for the Yankees and more specifically Clemens. If you could get the personal trainer for the Tampa Bay Devil Rays to talk you would see that they would have just as many players taking roids.
And no Red Sox because Mitchell is on the Sox payroll as a board of director.
Conflict of interest?
 

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Talked to 2 former players today..both played in say 99-2004. They said between them they could not name 15 players who DIDNT use .......In other words everybody was doing it. The report is (like most govt reports) a joke.....

Ya I know 4 former players and all 4 have addmitted to me that used them and said they guess between 60%-80% of players did. I played college baseball and I know for a fact that 4 of the 22 players on our team took roids. They were and still are all over the game of baseball. There is a chemist out there right now developing the next undetectable steroid.
 

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And no Red Sox because Mitchell is on the Sox payroll as a board of director.
Conflict of interest?

give it up Yankee fans. Spend more time crying about how your team gets their ass beat in the playoffs. When I look at the list I see 11 players on it that played for the Sox. Yes there are former players but the were sox players. I guess mitchell was going to leave Gange of the report but after he went to another team last week he decided to put him in the report huh. Maybe, just maybe if Mitchell could've gotten a trainer for the red sox to talk he would have current sox players on it. But since the only guy he could get to talk was a yankee trainer there are more yankees on the list.
 

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