What would you do in this situation??

Whisperz · Dec 19, 2007

Recently my younger brother, 15 years old, borrowed his friends car and hit a curb with it. One problem, legal driving age is 17. He was never the brightaest and when I got the call telling me about this I was not shocked at all.

Apparently he fucked this car up bad because the damages are as high as $6,700. Also, this car was apparently a piece o crap this kid bought from his neighbor for cheap. He claims it was $4,500 his father claims it was $7,000. My father is liable for nothing and aside from paying the 3 tickets, underage driving, careless driving, and fleeing the scene of an accident he has to higher a lawyer and all that bull shit. My dad offered to buy this guys kid a used car for $3,000 and this guy declined saying he wanted it repaired. The car is a 1999 ford something...nothing special and probably won't be the same.

My father did not know this guy and this guy is kind of being a dick about the whole situation.

Being liable for nothing what do you choose to do here, pay the expenses, buy a used car, tell him to fuck off, or what?

Just curious because my father and I keep arguing about what to do.

Sugarbear · Dec 19, 2007

Defitnly dont fix it.

Go to either manhiem.com or mmr.com and put the cars make, year and milage thru its data base.

Whatever number comes up thats what you give the guy for the car.

Personally I would not pay a dime and I would sue or threaten to sue the kid whom let him borrow the car for contributing to the delinquency of a minor as well as any other legal sounding thing you can come up with for letting a person with no license borrow the car in the first place.

Public endangerment and the like will work just fine. Possibly report the owner of said car to DMV and request/suggest this kid should go to traffic school.

Railbird · Dec 19, 2007

Dont they have insurance?

lurkingfury · Dec 19, 2007

insurance probably won't fix a car that an underage driver wrecked will they?

hmm i'd get multiple estimates and just fix the car with the cheapest one. i'd get my own estimates though, and not use the car owners. they might know the guy that did that. go to multiple places. and when you fix it, pay the body shop directly, not the owner of the car. and umm i'd never let your brother have anything ever again.

djmatt · Dec 19, 2007

your brother didn't have a license.. the owner of the car is responsible for damages..

tell em to get fucked if they dont want the other car

HarryCaray · Dec 19, 2007

djmatt said:
your brother didn't have a license.. the owner of the car is responsible for damages..

tell em to get fucked if they dont want the other car

Yup.

MIKEY.1TIME · Dec 19, 2007

if they take you to court( in some states), since your father is the legal guardian, he may be on the hook

Betallsports · Dec 19, 2007

hit a curb with it.....damages are as high as $6,700 ????

He had to Hit More then a Curb ???

Poster Sugarbear is Right....Go to manhiem.com get the Value of the Car.

Now if the Value of the Car is Only $3K, for you to pay this amount it would mean the Car is Totaled !! If so then that is the Amount you will need to pay. But you need to find out the miles on the car....
was it Over 100K ??? Body of car ??? Etc..

I'll tell you right now though, a 1999 Whatever isn't worth much..Unless it was a BMW or something like that.
Car was most likely worth around $1,500-$2,500

If you were to take the Information to a Court, they would Only Award them that amount !

So if he won't take it...Tell him to F*ck Off !!

Just My 2 cents....

HarryCaray · Dec 19, 2007

Betallsports said:
hit a curb with it.....damages are as high as $6,700 ????

He had to Hit More then a Curb ???

I did about that much damage hitting a curb once. Snapped the axle.

Betallsports · Dec 19, 2007

HarryCaray said:
I did about that much damage hitting a curb once. Snapped the axle.

True....I can Believe that ....Either way....The Dollar amounts are Way to High for a 1999 Car

The Guy is Jerking his Chain...

PatPatriot · Dec 19, 2007

I'd tell them either/or.

Go to either manhiem.com or mmr.com and put the cars make, year and milage thru its data base.

Whatever number comes up thats what you give the guy for the car.

Personally I would not pay a dime and I would sue or threaten to sue the kid whom let him borrow the car for contributing to the delinquency of a minor as well as any other legal sounding thing you can come up with for letting a person with no license borrow the car in the first place.

buddyboy · Dec 19, 2007

My father is liable for nothing

according to man law he is....

1. your dad needs to beat your brothers ass.
2. your dad needs to make your brother pay EVERY FREAKING PENNY to make things right with the car owner
3. you need to beat your brothers ass.

OccamsRazor · Dec 19, 2007

Kudos to your brother for getting britney spears sister pregnant. have em all move into the car.

Whisperz · Dec 19, 2007

Railbird said:
Dont they have insurance?

No thats the biggest part of it. This is going on in Wayne, a fairly rich town and they take this kids car and don't put collision on it.

I mean, come on now.

Porcupine · Dec 19, 2007

Sugarbear and Betallsports have it pretty much right.

Get the value of the car and pay them the value or the costs of repair, whichever is less.

It is then up to the owner(s) if to use this money however they want: buy a new car, fix the old one, put in a pool, buy porn, etc.

Of course, if they are being unreasonable, then talk to a lawyer and go from there.

Whisperz · Dec 19, 2007

Betallsports said:
hit a curb with it.....damages are as high as $6,700 ????

He had to Hit More then a Curb ???

Poster Sugarbear is Right....Go to manhiem.com get the Value of the Car.

Now if the Value of the Car is Only $3K, for you to pay this amount it would mean the Car is Totaled !! If so then that is the Amount you will need to pay. But you need to find out the miles on the car....
was it Over 100K ??? Body of car ??? Etc..

I'll tell you right now though, a 1999 Whatever isn't worth much..Unless it was a BMW or something like that.
Car was most likely worth around $1,500-$2,500

If you were to take the Information to a Court, they would Only Award them that amount !

So if he won't take it...Tell him to F*ck Off !!

Just My 2 cents....

From what I heard is he was making a turn at around 30-35 mph (cops estimate) I think it was probably 40-45 and hit the curb. Then when he hit the curb the wheel caved in breaking the axle and all that shit. I don't know much about car parts but it seems pretty f'd up.

Doug · Dec 19, 2007

Porcupine said:
Sugarbear and Betallsports have it pretty much right.

Get the value of the car and pay them the value or the costs of repair, whichever is less.

It is then up to the owner(s) if to use this money however they want: buy a new car, fix the old one, put in a pool, buy porn, etc.

Of course, if they are being unreasonable, then talk to a lawyer and go from there.

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7k is way high for a 99 Ford car, unless it was GT Mustang with low miles, or something like that.

If you pay the reasonable value of the car, then you should own the old car, and be able to sell it to a junkyard, and reclaim a few hundred dollars, at least.

3k sounds a lot more like it, even that may be high. I doubt it is worth repairing.

For 5k, I'm sure I'd find a much better car than a 9 year old Ford, more like a 2002 Toyota.

buddyboy · Dec 19, 2007

take it out of your brothers college fund.

your brother should also pay for a rental car so his friend has something to drive while the car your brother totaled is either fixed or replaced.

ILMW · Dec 19, 2007

Buy him a big wheel and tell him to have a nice day.

cadillacman · Dec 19, 2007

if he had permission to drive the vehicle he is considered a permissive user and the damages are paid by the owner of the car's insurance. Insurance follows the vehicle. Since the car is old and probably doesn't have collision the owner would have to eat the damages. Nothing could going through the insurance carrier. If the car is totaled, get the Kelly Blue Book b/c even if hit another car another carrier wouldn't pay more for the damages then the car is worth.