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How much is the family going to settle for. I have always found it strange when a tragedy occurs and a family gets money for it.

I had teacher whose neighbors son died in some sort of government activity in the '70s get like 17K and bought a car. The teacher goes, everytime I saw that car, I thought the kids life was just worth a car to his father.
 

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How much is the family going to settle for. I have always found it strange when a tragedy occurs and a family gets money for it.

I had teacher whose neighbors son died in some sort of government activity in the '70s get like 17K and bought a car. The teacher goes, everytime I saw that car, I thought the kids life was just worth a car to his father.
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Surely you're not suggesting that this family doesn't deserve some compensation for the loss of their son? Especially if the zoo was in some way responsible for the Tiger escaping? We don't know all of what happened yet....there was some speculation on one of the news shows that the 3 boys were taunting the Tiger which enraged the cat so much to evoke such a super-tiger effort to escape(sorta like the mom who lifts the car off her child).
 

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Surely you're not suggesting that this family doesn't deserve some compensation for the loss of their son? Especially if the zoo was in some way responsible for the Tiger escaping? We don't know all of what happened yet....there was some speculation on one of the news shows that the 3 boys were taunting the Tiger which enraged the cat so much to evoke such a super-tiger effort to escape(sorta like the mom who lifts the car off her child).

No, I am not. I would find it difficult if I had a child and they died like that and then I go out and buy a BENZ.
 

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It sounds like the kid taunted the poor tiger, therefore he deserves nothing. I hope the zoo brings a suit against his family to recover their losses.
 

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...... have not heard this theory regarding the incident. please elaborate.
 

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Authorities did not believe more people were attacked, but they wanted to inspect the area in the daylight. Zoo officials were still uncertain how long the Siberian tiger, the same one that mauled a zookeeper almost one year earlier, had been loose before being killed by police.
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They suffered "pretty aggressive bite marks," Mannina said.
The zoo was closed Wednesday.
The two injured men were listed in stable condition at San Francisco General Hospital. Dr. John Brown, an emergency room physician, told ABC's "Good Morning America" on Wednesday they suffered deep bites and claw cuts to their heads, necks, arms and hands.
"These injuries are severe injuries, but they are very treatable, and these two gentlemen seem to be in good health, so I think they have a good chance," Brown said.
The zoo's director of animal care and conservation, Robert Jenkins, could not explain how Tatiana escaped. The tiger's enclosure is surrounded by a 15-foot-wide moat and 20-foot-high walls, and the approximately 300-pound female did not leave through an open door, he said.
"There was no way out through the door," Jenkins said. "The animal appears to have climbed or otherwise leaped out of the enclosure."
The first attack happened right outside the Siberian's enclosure — the victim died at the scene. A group of four officers came across his body when they entered the dark zoo grounds, Mannina said.
The second victim was about 300 yards away, in front of the Terrace Cafe. The man was sitting on the ground, blood running from gashes in his head and Tatiana sitting next to him.
The cat attacked the man again, Mannina said. The officers approached the tiger with their handguns. Tatiana moved in their direction and several of the officers fired, killing the animal.
Only then did they see the third victim, who had also been mauled.
Although no new visitors were let in after 5 p.m. Tuesday, the grounds had not been not scheduled to close until an hour later, and 20 to 25 people were still in the zoo when the attacks happened, zoo officials said. Employees and visitors were told to take shelter when zoo officials learned of the attacks.
"This is a tragic event for San Francisco," Fire Department spokesman Lt. Ken Smith said. "We pride ourselves in our zoo, and we pride ourselves in tourists coming and looking at our city."
There are five tigers at the zoo — three Sumatrans and two Siberians. Officials initially worried that four tigers had escaped, but soon learned only Tatiana had escaped, Mannina said.
On Dec. 22, 2006, Tatiana reached through the cage's iron bars and grabbed a keeper, biting and mauling one of her arms and causing deep lacerations. The zoo's Lion House was temporarily closed during an investigation.
California's Division of Occupational Safety and Health blamed the zoo for the assault and imposed a $18,000 penalty. A medical claim filed against the city by the keeper was denied.
Last February, a 140-pound jaguar named Jorge killed a zookeeper at the Denver Zoo before being fatally shot. Zoo officials said later that the zookeeper had violated rules by opening the door to the animal's cage.
Mayor Gavin Newsom said in a statement he was deeply saddened by the latest attack and that a thorough investigation was under way.
After last year's attack, the zoo added customized steel mesh over the bars, built in a feeding shoot and increased the distance between the public and the cats.
Tatiana arrived at the San Francisco Zoo from the Denver Zoo a few years ago, with zoo officials hoping she would mate with a male tiger. Siberian tigers are classified as endangered and there are more than 600 of the animals living in captivity worldwide.
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Associated Press writer Daisy Nguyen in Los Angeles contributed to this report.
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SAN FRANCISCO -- Investigators trying to determine how a tiger escaped her zoo enclosure on Christmas Day, killing a man and injuring two others, planned to conduct a thorough sweep of the zoo grounds Wednesday.

Although more victims are not likely, officials said they wanted to search the San Francisco Zoo during daylight. Officials at the zoo, which will remain closed to the public while authorities canvass the area, are uncertain how long the tiger was loose.
The tiger that attacked three young men on Christmas Day, a Siberian named Tatiana, was the same animal that in December 2006 ripped the flesh off a zookeeper's arm, zoo officials said. Police officers shot and killed the animal following Tuesday's bloody assaults.

The three men, one of them 19-years-old and the others in their early 20s, were attacked just after 5 p.m., on the east end of the 125-acre zoo grounds near Ocean Beach, San Francisco Police spokesman Steve Mannina said.
They suffered "pretty aggressive bite marks," Mannina said.
The two survivors were in critical but stable condition at San Francisco General Hospital on Wednesday after undergoing surgery to have their wounds cleaned and closed, authorities said.
Zoo officials planned to focus their investigation on how the tiger managed to escape from its fortified enclosure. Tatiana was the same big cat that attacked a zookeeper last December during a regular public feeding, according to Robert Jenkins, the zoo's director of animal care and conservation.
The approximately 300-pound female did not leave through an open door, Jenkins said. But he could not explain how it escaped -- the enclosure is surrounded by a 15-foot-wide moat, and 20-foot-high walls.
"There was no way out through the door," said Jenkins. "The animal appears to have climbed or otherwise leapt out of the enclosure."
Investigators working to understand what happened have sketched a chilling picture.
The first attack happened right outside the Siberian's pen -- the unidentified victim died at the scene. A group of four responding officers came across his body when they made their way into the dark zoo grounds, said Mannina.
Then they saw the second victim. He was about 300 yards away, in front of the Terrace Cafe.
The man was sitting on the ground, blood running from gashes in his head. Tatiana sat next to him. Suddenly, the cat attacked the man again, Mannina said.
The officers started approaching the animal, bearing their handguns. As Tatiana moved in their direction, several of the officers fired, killing the animal.
Only then did they see the third victim, who had also been mauled.
The zoo is open 365 days a year. Although no new visitors were let in after 5:00 p.m., the grounds were not scheduled to close until an hour later, and there were between 20 and 25 people still on site when the attacks happened, zoo officials said.
Eric Isaacs, a doctor at San Francisco General, told KGO-TV that the tiger bites were being treated as any animal bite would be -- the wounds were being cleaned, and the men were put on antibiotics. They'd be observed for infection over the next week.
"This is a tragic event for San Francisco," San Francisco Fire Department spokesman Lt. Ken Smith said. "We pride ourselves in our zoo, and we pride ourselves in tourists coming and looking at our city."
Employees and visitors were told to take shelter in zoo buildings when zoo officials learned of the attacks.
Authorities did not believe others were mauled, but because it was dark they could not be certain. After the attack, firefighters used ladders and flashlights to search through the zoo's vegetation.
Investigators remained on the scene and Smith said a thorough sweep of the grounds would be conducted Wednesday morning.
There are five tigers at the zoo -- three Sumatrans, and two Siberians. Officials initially worried that four tigers had escaped, but soon learned only one had escaped its pen, according to Mannina.
San Francisco mayor Gavin Newsom said in a statement that he was deeply saddened by the incident and said a thorough investigation is underway.
Last December, Tatiana reached through the cage's iron bars and badly tore the zookeeper's arm with its teeth and claws. The zoo's Lion House was temporarily closed during an investigation, and did not reopen for public feedings until September.
Following last year's attack, the zoo added customized steel mesh over the bars, built in a feeding shoot and increased the distance between the public and the cats.
Tatiana arrived at the San Francisco Zoo from the Denver Zoo about two years ago to be a companion to Tony, a 14-year-old male Siberian tiger. The species is endangered, and zoo officials hoped the two tigers would produce offspring.
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Investigation continues into fatal tiger attack at S.F. zoo


(12-26) 17:27 PST SAN FRANCISCO
-- Police are treating the San Francisco Zoo as a crime scene today, one day after a 350-pound tiger escaped and attacked three visitors from San Jose, killing a 17-year-old boy before hunting down and seriously injuring two of his friends.
Carlos Sousa Jr. was killed Christmas evening outside the tiger grotto, which is protected by a 25- to 30-foot-wide moat and 14-foot-high wall. Tatiana, a 350-pound Siberian tiger that also attacked a zookeeper almost exactly a year ago, was shot by police as it mauled one of the survivors 300 yards away from the grotto.
Zoo officials are still unsure how the tiger escaped the enclosure. Authorities believe it initially attacked all three victims, killing Sousa. Officials believe the cat then followed blood trails to Terrace Cafe, where it cornered the other boys, brothers ages 19 and 23.
Although some zoo officials speculate the threesome may have teased the tiger, San Francisco police Lt. Leroy Lindo said police currently have no reason to believe the three men taunted the animal prior to the attack, which happened shortly after the zoo's 5 p.m. closing time. Dozens of visitors and some employees were still inside the zoo at the time.
Authorities were called to the scene after receiving a call that said an unspecified animal may be loose in the zoo and that a visitor had been bitten.
When police arrived, they first found Sousa, who was pronounced dead at the scene. The officers began a search and found the 23-year-old victim lying on the ground with cuts on his face. He was cornered by the tiger. As the officers approached, police said, the tiger jumped back on top of the man and resumed its attack. The animal then became distracted by the four officers, who were yelling, and advanced toward the officers. All four fired their .40-caliber handguns, hitting the tiger an unknown number of times.
San Francisco Police Sgt. Neville Gittens said the officers did not want to shoot the animal while it was sitting next to the victim.
"I can only imagine the patrons walking around, and suddenly seeing this tiger," he said. "It was probably surreal."
The officers then found the third victim, the 19-year-old man, near his brother.
The brothers were in stable condition today after surgeries at San Francisco General Hospital.
John Sousa said he learned of his nephew's death this morning.
"This is very rough, very hard on us. There's nothing much we can do. This will be investigated, it's going to take some time," he said. "He was a great kid, he took off on Christmas with friends, we're not sure what happened."
San Francisco Zoo Director Manuel Mollinedo said the zoo has a response team that is armed with tranquilizers and firearms, but that the scene unfolded "so quickly that the officers found (Tatiana) first."
The zoo does not have video surveillance, police said, so the investigation will be based on physical evidence collected at the zoo, witness statements, the autopsy of the dead man and the necropsy of the tiger.
Police officers, along with fire department and zoo personnel, conducted four searches of the zoo grounds between Tuesday night and Wednesday morning to ensure no other people had been attacked, Gittens said. Authorities used a California Highway Patrol helicopter with thermal imaging and floodlights to comb the zoo for additional victims or escaped animals when it was still dark, he said.
At one point, police said, zoo officials feared that the four other tigers that belong to the zoo were on the loose. Authorities said one zookeeper wanted to go into the large cat grotto to account for the remaining animals, and police had to physically restrain him.
Rochelle Dicker, an emergency room surgeon at San Francisco General Hospital who operated on the victims, said today that the two unnamed brothers were recovering remarkably well. Doctors are focusing on preventing infection from the bacteria that may be present in the men's wounds, she said. That bacteria is similar to the type found in the common house cat, officials said.
Dicker said the men were in critical condition when they arrived at the hospital Tuesday but that emergency crews had managed to stabilize the victims and clean their wounds. Both men underwent multiple surgeries with several different teams of doctors through the night, she said. The surgeries mostly consisted of cleaning the wounds more thoroughly and stitching the gashes, Dicker said.
Doctors will keep the men at the hospital today to monitor them, she said. Dicker attributed their recovery to the fact that both are young and in good health.
The zoo, which is closed today for the first time in years, was eerily quiet this morning. The cafe where the attack victims were found is shuttered and still. A dozen police officers gathered with zoo officials just west of the cafe earlier this morning, poring over maps and handing out equipment. This afternoon, a handful of visitors continued to filter up to the entrance, unaware of what had happened.
"Oh my gosh! I hadn't heard anything about a tiger," said one visitor, Komer Poodari, of San Jose. "I guess we'll go to Fisherman's Wharf."
Mollinedo said that officials hope to reopen the zoo Thursday, but plan on keeping the outdoor big cat exhibit closed indefinitely. Police are treating the area as a crime scene, collecting physical evidence and taking statements from any witnesses, Police Chief Heather Fong said.
Lora LaMarca, a zoo spokeswoman, said this morning that officials still have no idea how the animal escaped from its grotto. Police refused to rule out the possibility of carelessness or criminal activity, and zoo officials said the tiger did not escape through the grotto's only door.
"We don't know at this point if somebody let the tiger out or it climbed out," Gittens said, adding that if someone did let the animal out it would be considered a crime.
The zoo held a staff meeting this morning, LaMarca said, and authorities there are offering grief counselors to its employees.
"The zoo offers its sincerest sympathies to the people affected," she said.
This is the second time in just over a year that Tatiana attacked a human.
On Dec. 22, 2006, the tiger chewed the flesh off zookeeper Lori Komejan's arm after a public feeding demonstration. A state investigation later ruled that the zoo was at fault for the attack because of the way the cages were configured.
A June report from the state Division of Occupation Safety and Health blamed the San Francisco Zoo for the 2006 attack, stating that the tiger cages were configured in a way that made it possible for Tatiana to bite the zookeeper's arm. The state found that Komejan was attacked after she reached through a drain trough to retrieve an item near the tiger's side of the cage. The tiger reached under the cage bars and grabbed her right arm, but the zookeeper tried to push the tiger away using her other arm, the report found.
Both of her arms were under the cage at that point and her face was pressed against the cage bars, according to the report. Another employee grabbed a long-handled squeegee and hit the tiger in the head until it released the injured zookeeper.
"There was never any consideration for putting her down - the tiger was acting like a normal tiger," Mollinedo said today.
The public feedings at the Lion House resumed in September after about $250,000 in safety upgrades. The city, which helps fund the zoo, is currently facing a lawsuit from Komejan and is assessing today whether it is at all liable for the Christmas Day mauling, officials said.
Mayor Gavin Newsom is in Hawaii for a Christmas vacation; Supervisor Sean Elsbernd, the acting mayor, has not commented publicly.
Mollinedo said today that he has brought in colleagues from other accredited zoos to do a thorough analysis of the big cat exhibits.
"We want to make sure they are safe, and see what kind of modifications should be done to ensure the safety of (people and animals)," he said.
Anyone who witnessed the tiger's escape Tuesday or the attacks is asked to call authorities at (415) 553-1141.
Chronicle staff writers Meredith May, Cecilia Vega and Steve Rubenstein contributed to this report. E-mail the writers at k@@@an@sfchronicle.com, jvanderbeken@sfchronicle.com, jkoopman@sfchronicle.com and mlagos@sfchronicle.com.
 

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