Truth-detection analysts (body language) say Roger Clemens lying.

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From his parched, pursed lips to the jut of his shoulders, Roger Clemens was holding something back, three body-language analysts who watched him over the past two days said Monday.

“There’s more to the story,” said Janine Driver, a body-language consultant who trains law enforcement officers in truth detection. “There are several probing points that lead me to believe that he’s not going to be completely truthful.”

Since the release of the Mitchell report last month, Clemens and his lawyer have issued a series of increasingly angry denials, rebutting claims by his former personal trainer, Brian McNamee, that Clemens took steroids. But it was Clemens’s two recent television appearances — a “60 Minutes” interview Sunday, and a news conference Monday — that provided material to truth-detection analysts like Driver, who make a living parsing the slightest grimaces, shrugs and words for signs of subterfuge.

In the “60 Minutes” interview, for example, the analysts noticed that Clemens swallowed hard, looked down, and licked and pursed his lips when answering questions — all signs, they said, that he might not have been telling the truth. “That’s indicative of deception, that’s indicative of stress,” said Joe Navarro, a retired F.B.I. agent who trains intelligence officers and employees for banks and insurance companies. Navarro has also written a book about how to tell whether someone is bluffing in poker.
Nevertheless, Navarro warned against concluding that Clemens was lying. Even the most skilled body-language experts are right in only about half of all cases, he said, and investigators often study body language to decide when to dig deeper. It is not evidence that someone has committed wrongdoing; Clemens might have been showing stress from defending against potentially career-killing allegations. “He clearly shows signs of distress, but we don’t know why he’s being distressed,” Navarro said.
During the news conference Monday, Clemens wondered aloud how his nonverbal actions might be read or misread. After taking criticism for drinking too much water during the “60 Minutes” interview, Clemens asked reporters: “Can I drink water? Is that good or bad?” before sipping water at the news conference. His lawyer told him, “Lighten up.”

That anger spilled over several other times during the news conference, in both words and gestures. At one point, Clemens stood, jutting his shoulder toward reporters in what the behavioral analyst Maxine Lucille Fiel said was a classic sign of aggression. “That shoulder went right out into the camera, and he was daring someone or he was threatening,” she said. “He was ready to rumble.”

Clemens’s final gesture on Monday needed no expert translation. He stood up, declared, “I’ve said enough,” and walked out of the room.


By KATIE THOMAS
Published: January 8, 2008
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“Can I drink water? Is that good or bad?”
I know that was a moment Roger was trying to be funny in an attempt to lighten things up. But he got met with silence.
 

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I didn't watch the entire p.c yesterday, just saw the highlights on ESPN and yeah he seems guilty to me. He also seems conceited and cocky like most athletes so I have no sympathy for him. He should have just shut up about the whole thing or issue a statement like the other players did. He can only make himself look worse not better by trying to state his innocence.

I just finished reading Game of Shadows about the whole BALCO case, interesting read. There was a section about Marion Jones and how she went to great lengths to prove her innocence only to confess later. I think Clemens is going to be subject to the same fate.
 

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Even the most skilled body-language experts are right in only about half of all cases

I find it hard to believe that they are coinflippers.
 

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well, I remember learning that 80% of a conversation is read through body language.. but I also remember reading the 57% of statistics are made up on the spot
 

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While I believe that Clemens is not being entirely truthful, why do Fehr and Selig get a pass on all of this? I say that both Selig and Fehr should be fired since all this happened under their watch. Both had to know something was going on with it's players.

I say clean house. Again, get rid of Fehr and Selig and lets move on.
 

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Even the most skilled body-language experts are right in only about half of all cases

I find it hard to believe that they are coinflippers.

I found that statement odd as well. If the best are only right 50% of the time, WTF is the point of the profession?
 

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While I believe that Clemens is not being entirely truthful, why do Fehr and Selig get a pass on all of this? I say that both Selig and Fehr should be fired since all this happened under their watch. Both had to know something was going on with it's players.

I say clean house. Again, get rid of Fehr and Selig and lets move on.

Exactly.
 

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Looks like they two used to be best of friends. Clemens was leading in the whole phone coversation. I always thought , you weren,t allow to tape someone and use it in a court of law, unless you had a warrant.

Clemens saying " I wanted to touch base with you, How is your son doing " Meanwhile taping him. [ Mcanney son apparently has some disease, but its manageable to live with.] Its just shows that both of these guys are nothing but a bunch of back stabbbers.

Another Joke , Clemens is sueing this guy but he says on the phone , He,s broke.

Clemens will win some of the doubters over, cuz he got mega dollars backing it.
 

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While I believe that Clemens is not being entirely truthful, why do Fehr and Selig get a pass on all of this? I say that both Selig and Fehr should be fired since all this happened under their watch. Both had to know something was going on with it's players.

I say clean house. Again, get rid of Fehr and Selig and lets move on.



hard to argue with this...

clemens is 100 % guilty..
 

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This just in: The Common Sense Committee for people with half a brain confirm that Clemens is lying as well.
 

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Looks like they two used to be best of friends. Clemens was leading in the whole phone coversation. I always thought , you weren,t allow to tape someone and use it in a court of law,unless you had a warrant.backing it.

It depends on the state. In Texas, as long as one person knows the conversation is being recorded it's legal.
 
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While I believe that Clemens is not being entirely truthful, why do Fehr and Selig get a pass on all of this? I say that both Selig and Fehr should be fired since all this happened under their watch. Both had to know something was going on with it's players.

I say clean house. Again, get rid of Fehr and Selig and lets move on.


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While I believe that Clemens is not being entirely truthful, why do Fehr and Selig get a pass on all of this? I say that both Selig and Fehr should be fired since all this happened under their watch. Both had to know something was going on with it's players.

I say clean house. Again, get rid of Fehr and Selig and lets move on.

you guys are being very unrealistic

they are there for no other reason than to generate income and value for the owners

who's gonna fire them
 

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you guys are being very unrealistic

they are there for no other reason than to generate income and value for the owners

who's gonna fire them

The owners can fire Selig and the players can change Fehr. These guys let this happen precisely because of money. If baseball wants fans to think differently these two guys need to go.
 

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The owners can fire Selig and the players can change Fehr. These guys let this happen precisely because of money. If baseball wants fans to think differently these two guys need to go.

not gonna happen without their consent
 

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here is how i want this to go down...they go to court..sue each other...
andy pettite is called as witness....he probably knows that roger used.....and he's not going to do a "greg anderson" ...so he spills the beans on the rocket and the rocket jumps from his seat and attacks andy on the witness stand.

that would be cool
 

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He said he got B-12 injections. I always thought that was code allowing the client plausible deniability.
 

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that moron on the Jim Rome show I overheard him saying who injects their vitamins? do you inject your vitamin C as well Roger?

god damnit someone get the writers off strike, even sports-related shows are making people dumber
 

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