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Markets around the world plunged today while the U.S. took off for MLK Holiday.
Nervous investors didn't need another reason to sit on the sideline, but Europe shaved greater than 5% in most major markets and Asia followed.

We could see a greater than 500 point drop tommorrow based on other markets.
 

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Thanks for the Good News..Have not even turned on CNBC today..But maybe I should
 

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No U.S. Market today, G.Money. Nothing but reruns likely on CNBC. Check out the overseas markets for today though. Tommorrow will be interested to be sure. Might want to get the popcorn for this one.
 

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"Tuesday's market WILL be really ugly"



fixed it for you.




BLACK TUESDAY coming up......
 

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Yes, was thinking about editing the thread after I wrote it Teaze. Great minds think alike.

If no buyers step in after the initial drop, we're looking at a 1000 point drop.
 

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I don't even see how the market stays above 10,000 with all the crap happeneing out there. I always go by auto sales, and when they started slipping about a year ago, I decided to get out. It might have cost me as prices still rose some, but I didn't ahve to worry about waking up one morning with the market taking a bath....even before I showered!
 

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by the end of the year the market will be higher than where it started the year..
 

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Good washout opportunity may arise soon. Got to be thinking about nibbling at 11,000 or so. We are long overdue for an ugly worldwide recession. Dollar could be in panic mode as well. Watch for metals and commodities to take a big hit tomorrow also.
 

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By TOBY ANDERSON, AP Business Writer Mon Jan 21, 12:45 PM ET


<!-- end storyhdr -->LONDON - Stocks fell sharply worldwide Monday following declines on Wall Street last week amid investor pessimism over the U.S. government's stimulus plan to prevent a recession.
U.S. markets were closed for Martin Luther King Jr. Day, but the downbeat mood from last week's market declines there circled through Europe, Asia and the Americas. Britain's benchmark FTSE-100 slumped 5.5 percent to 5,578.20, France's CAC-40 Index tumbled 6.8 percent to 4,744.15, and Germany's blue-chip DAX 30 plunged 7.2 percent to 6,790.19.
In Asia, India's benchmark stock index tumbled 7.4 percent, while Hong Kong's blue-chip Hang Seng index plummeted 5.5 percent to 23,818.86, its biggest percentage drop since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.
Canadian stocks fell as well, with the S&P/TSX composite index on the Toronto Stock Exchange down 4 percent in early afternoon trading. In Brazil, stocks plunged 6.9 percent on the main index of Sao Paulo's Bovespa exchange.
Investors dumped shares because they were skeptical that an economic stimulus plan President Bush announced Friday would shore up the economy that has been battered by problems in its housing and credit markets. The plan, which requires approval by Congress, calls for about $145 billion worth of tax relief to encourage consumer spending.
"We've taken our lead from the Asian markets who have not been impressed by the U.S. There's debate if there's going to be a recession in the U.S. I don't think there's much chance of that though," said Richard Hunter an analyst at Hargreaves Lansdown Stockbrokers Ltd. in London.
Concerns about the outlook for the U.S. economy, a major export market for Asian companies, has sent the region's markets sliding in 2008. Just last Wednesday, the Hang Seng index sank 5.4 percent.
"It's another horrible day," said Francis Lun, a general manager at Fulbright Securities in Hong Kong. "Today it's because of disappointment that the U.S. stimulus (package) is too little, too late and investors feel it won't help the economy recover."
Japan's benchmark Nikkei 225 index slid 3.9 percent to close at 13,325.94 points, its lowest close in more than two years. China's Shanghai Composite index plunged 5.1 percent, partly on worries about mainland Chinese banks' exposure to risky U.S. mortgage investments.
"People are certainly nervous about a potential recession in the U.S. spilling over to the rest of the world," said David Cohen, Director of Asian Economic Forecasting at Action Economics in Singapore.
"Maybe there's still some wariness about politicians are able to come up with a compromise and act sufficiently quickly" on a stimulus package, Cohen said. "I think the impact would be marginal anyway."
Investors took cues from the negative reaction to the president's plan on Wall Street on Friday, when the Dow Jones industrial average slid 0.5 percent to 12,099.30, bringing its loss for the year so far to nearly 9 percent.
Traders also have shrugged off assurances from Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke that the U.S. central bank is ready to act aggressively — which means a likely big interest rate cut later this month — to help the sagging economy.
Some analysts predict that Asia won't suffer dramatically from a U.S. recession because increased trade and investment within Asia has made the region less reliant on the United States than in the past. Excluding Japan, 43 percent of Asia's exports go to other nations in the region, Lehman Brothers calculates, up from 37 percent in 1995.
But on Monday, uncertainty and pessimism reigned.
In Tokyo trading, exporters got hit hard, partly because of the yen's recent strength against the dollar. Toyota Motor Corp. lost 3.3 percent and Honda Motor Co. sank 3.4 percent.
Shares of Bank of China dropped 6.4 percent in Hong Kong after the South China Morning Post newspaper reported that the bank is expected to announce a "significant write-down" in U.S. subprime mortgage securities, citing unidentified sources. In Shanghai, the bank's stock declined 4.1 percent.

India's the benchmark Sensex index fell 1,353 points, or 7.4 percent — its second-biggest percentage drop ever — to 17,605.35 points. At one point, it was down nearly 11 percent.
The decline hit companies across the board, with power utility Reliance Energy Ltd. falling 16.4 percent. Major software company Tata Consultancy Services Ltd. slid 7.6 percent
"A gloomy U.S. climate has affected the global markets. Even if those markets recover, it will take sometime for the recovery to reach India because today's fall has been so drastic," said Jayant Pai, of the Mumbai investment company IL&FS Ltd.
Still, Pai and others suggested that the declines could lead to a buying opportunity.
"The sell-off today takes us close to the bottom," she said.
Since the start of the year, Japan's Nikkei index has declined 13 percent, while Hong Kong's blue-chip index is down more than 14 percent. Even China's Shanghai index — which nearly doubled last year — has fallen 6.6 percent over the same period and nearly 20 percent from its all-time closing high on Oct. 16.
___ Associated Press writers Cassie Biggs in Hong Kong, Ramola Talwar Badam in Mumbai and Elaine Kurtenbach in Shanghai Carl Freire in Tokyo contributed to this report.
 

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by the end of the year the market will be higher than where it started the year..




i need some of whatever in the hell you been smoking.......i'll bet you a hundy or two that it closes lower at the end of the year that what it was on Jan 1.
 

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IVY Money management is the key just as in sports betting. If you feel that a bottom is near invest about 20% of your money into the market. Continue investing 20% more at 500 point drops in the market and you will be very happy that you averaged down in the long run. In the event the market crashes you will be sitting in a decent long term position. I don't claim to be an expert but it is probably unlikely that the market will be higher at the end of this year as opposed to the end of 2007. Turning the market around or the economy is like turning a big ship around in a canal.
 

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Wall Street and The Federal Reserve Board are well behind what the actual state of the economy truly is. There is much more still to come through 2008 as the economy shows all the impacts of the housing and credit crisis which drives the support industries. Interest rates will continue to fall significantly in order to try and stimulate the economy, but spending will stall. This is not going to be a pretty picture.
 

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Ted, good insight as to what may happen. Economic crises has a tendency to snowball from one sector to another. Portfolios around the world could be really pounded in the near future as margin calls will not be met and further selling will take place. There may be very few buyers until there is a very painful shakeout in the markets.
 

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Economic crises has a tendency to snowball from one sector to another. Portfolios around the world could be really pounded in the near future as margin calls will not be met and further selling will take place.




Ding...Ding...Ding...We have a winner....:toast:
 

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its a crock of shit, a recession is 6 MONTHS of NEGATIVE growth, we have not even had one yet...so what the hell is everyone getting so uptight about?
 

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