Why do the Cowboys want Mcfadden so bad when they have a better back on the team?

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You give the ball to Barbour 30 times and watch what happens. If he got the ball that often he would probably lead the league in yards and touchdowns.







'BOYS TO MAKE A DEAL WITH THE FINS?


ESPN's Chris Mortensen suggested during a special edition of Sunday NFL Countdown that Cowboys owner Jerry Jones is eyeing the possibility of swinging a trade with the Dolphins for the No. 1 overall pick in the 2008 draft.

Such a deal would allow the 'Boys to bag running back Darren McFadden, who played college football at Jones' alma mater of Arkansas.

Per Mort, any such deal would have to include the rights to Cowboys running back Marion Barber, who is slated to be a restricted free agent. To make it happen, the Cowboys would have to work out a sign-and-trade deal before Barber gets a chance to ink an offer sheet that would force the Cowboys to match the terms or let him go in exchange for compensation. Thus, the safest bet for the 'Boys would be to tender Barber at the highest possible level, which would force any team that signs him to give up a first-round pick and a third-round pick. Those extra picks then could be used to sweeten the pot for the top spot in the draft.

 

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From what I recall...

Julius Jones = full free agent (aka gone)
Marion Barber III = restricted free agent (very slight chance gone)

aside from that...Tyson Thompson? Lack of depth, and they like the 2 back system.

also...Jones is a HUGE Arkansas guy.
 

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You give the ball to Barbour 30 times and watch what happens. If he got the ball that often he would probably lead the league in yards and touchdowns.







'BOYS TO MAKE A DEAL WITH THE FINS?


ESPN's Chris Mortensen suggested during a special edition of Sunday NFL Countdown that Cowboys owner Jerry Jones is eyeing the possibility of swinging a trade with the Dolphins for the No. 1 overall pick in the 2008 draft.

Such a deal would allow the 'Boys to bag running back Darren McFadden, who played college football at Jones' alma mater of Arkansas.

Per Mort, any such deal would have to include the rights to Cowboys running back Marion Barber, who is slated to be a restricted free agent. To make it happen, the Cowboys would have to work out a sign-and-trade deal before Barber gets a chance to ink an offer sheet that would force the Cowboys to match the terms or let him go in exchange for compensation. Thus, the safest bet for the 'Boys would be to tender Barber at the highest possible level, which would force any team that signs him to give up a first-round pick and a third-round pick. Those extra picks then could be used to sweeten the pot for the top spot in the draft.



I AGREE BARBER IS A BAD MOTHER
 

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don't know about barber being better than mcfadden, but giving up marion plus a couple of draft picks is too steep imo
 

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Because they think he will be much better. Jones has no clue though in these situations. He has proven this many times.
 
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jerry's also an Arkansas alum and probably dreamt of having him on his team every time he watched his hogs
 

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mcfadden way better than barber ever dreamed about being. He actually has a little bit of speed.
 

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plus barber is a high energy guy that can't run that hard for that many carries. As you saw against the Giants he slowed way down as the carries went up. You do this the whole season and it extrapolates itself. Once again, an example of people not looking at the whole puzzle. Happens a lot it seems like. This being said, I wouldn't trade up to get him.
 

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Well said Royalfan. As much as I love Marion Barber as a running back, you have to look at the system that the Cowboys run at RB, and wonder if a lot of his success wasn't because of his alternating time with Julius Jones.

No doubt McFadden will be good, better than Peterson or even Barber, maybe, but I think you don't give up a 1 and a 3 to get him. Plus, Jones is probably going to be gone. So you have McFadden, Tyson Thompson, and who knows.

Another thing to consider - Barber is a hell of a pass blocker, which usually goes unnoticed but is absolutely vital to a team that passes as much as the Cowboys. Rookies typically have a hard time picking up blitzes, so if McFadden is the guy, I hope he picks up this part of the game quickly.
 

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If they make this deal, they can say hello to another early playoff exit next year.
 

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deep class for rb's, they could probably still have either jones or mendenhall (sp) with their cleveland pick from last year, plus keep their other first rounder.
 

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here's the problem. Look at the draft value chart.

The 1st pick in the draft is worth 3000 points.

The 22nd is worth 780 points
The 28th is worth 680 points.

So Dallas would have to give up both 1st rounder and that would still be 1540 points short of equaling the #1 pick. How would they make up that much of a differance? Every pick the Cowboys have wouldn't add up to 3000 points.

Remember the NYG gave up a 1st, a 3rd, and a 5th to move from #4 to #1. How much would you have to give up to move from #22 and #28 to #1? Plus how in the hell would Jerry Jones do any business with Miami after Miami just robbed Dallas of all their coaches.
 

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Here is a story from Brain Baldinger saying that the Saints Pierre Thomas is better than Darin McFadden.

And for all you people who say McFadden is better than Petterson here is some reality.




Posted: January 10, 2008




I hate to burst the bubble of Darren McFadden and all the draftniks who think he's the second coming of Adrian Peterson, but he isn't. Honestly, you shouldn't even use both names in the same sentence.
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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Yes, McFadden ran for a ton of yards at Arkansas and was a two-time Heisman Trophy runnerup. But I've watched him on film and up close in the Cotton Bowl, and I've seen no special qualities that will make him an exceptional running back.
McFadden has breakaway speed, I'll give him that. And he's fearless putting hits on defenders. But that's part of his problem -- he initiates contact. Unless you're built like Earl Campbell -- a mountain of a man whose career was nevertheless shortened to eight seasons because of injuries -- you won't last as a running back in the NFL by seeking contact.
A running back's most important quality is elusiveness. Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, Walter Payton -- all the great ones had it. So do current stars such as Peterson and LaDainian Tomlinson. Their methods differed, but these backs had the key to turning a 2-yard gain into a 22-yard gain -- and to surviving a brutal profession. They knew how to make tacklers miss. McFadden doesn't.
He also lacks the vision that is critical to finding open field. That's why he initiates contact -- he can't see the daylight to run to. He's a classic I-formation back who needs a fullback to lead the way. If the fullback gets caught in traffic, McFadden runs right up his back, rarely making the cut that would allow him to gain more yards.
I do believe an Arkansas running back should go in the first round of the draft. That would be Felix Jones, who, like McFadden, is a junior who is expected to declare for the draft. With his vision, moves and speed, Jones will be a better pro than McFadden.
When the Saints played at Chicago in Week 17, Pierre Thomas of New Orleans made his first NFL start. Thomas was an undrafted rookie out of Illinois, but you couldn't tell by watching him. He showed nifty moves, great vision and balance, power up the middle, soft hands and the ability to break tackles. He ran for 105 yards on 20 carries and caught 12 passes for another 121 yards. Reggie Bush has never had an NFL game like that.
Fact is, I'd take Thomas over McFadden, straight up. In a heartbeat. Brian Baldinger, an offensive lineman for 12 NFL seasons, can be heard on Sporting News Radio and seen on Fox Sports. Listen online at http://radio.sportingnews.com.

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you talk like this moron is the gospel. Good stuff. Pierre Thomas isn't even better than stecker which says all you need to know.
 

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although there is no chance that mcfadden is better than peterson and I do agree that felix will be the better pro.
 

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Jerry Jones is over rating McFadden because hes an Arkansas alumni.

I doubt it happens because someone on the cowboys staff will have the onions to speak up.
 

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Thomas isn't even better than stecker which says all you need to know.

Now you are showing your ignorance.
This im 100% sure of you are wrong here.
 

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