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Solomon Alabi - The Next Big Thing
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Hey gents:


This forum in general has brought me a great deal of joy over the last two years. It has been fun and has made me money. I am very excited to see baseball season right around the corner. Pitchers and Catchers reported today for the most part for all teams.

I am hoping to return the favor, in some small amount to provide on a daily basis, information on my Rays. I have a total of fifteen friends who will be attending Spring Training on a day-to-day basis. They will be sending me information, pictures, analysis and whatever else I can find useful.


I am hoping over the next month's time, some of this information will be useful to us baseball gamblers and we can make some money in the beginning of the season, with or against the Rays.



I am currently working on my full personal preview of the Rays and will hopefully have it out this weekend. I will also be updating this like I stated before, on a day-to-day basis on injuries and anything that might be informative to us here.



Very glad baseball season is just over a month away. Heres to my Rays getting 3rd place in the AL East.


BOL Gents


Chris
 

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glad to see that you are as excited for the start of the baseball season as I am. Looking forward to your analysis and wish you luck on future realignment.
 

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Rays getting 3rd is more realistic than you think bullring. All those stud prospects are a year older. That team has enough talent to compete with the Jays for 3rd.
 

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PS, thanks for contributing DRays! Good stuff.
 

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Rays getting 3rd. What a joke.


No offense man, as my prediction might sound homerish, but I believe as a gambler they have potential. Do they have a chance to be terrible and finish 4th or 5th? Sure.

But with Baltimore losing what they have so far in Bedard and trading Tejada, I feel they have lost too much as it is to even compete for 3rd. I see them as last in the AL East. We will be against Toronto for the 4th spot all season long.


Alot of this is on Garza. If he can provide what they Rays definately feel he can be as a undervaled #3 behind Shields and Kazmir, watch out. He might underperform, but he could also beat a steal for this team.
 

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Pitchers and catchers worked out today at Namoli Complex. No useful information to share. Got about 25 pictures sent to me, but didn't see anything worth while.

Saw this as a decent article on Kazmir and what he expects this season:

http://tampabay.rays.mlb.com/news/a...id=2374599&vkey=spt2008news&fext=.jsp&c_id=tb


Obviously, you have to go out and prove what your are made of, but the Rays have never been optimistic about what they can do in a season. The first step to being successfull, is believing you can do it. Again, the Rays have NEVER had this attitude.


Kazmir didn't back down when asked what was possible for this year's team.

"Play in October," Kazmir said. "That's possible. That's what I got out of [Rays manager] Joe [Maddon] talking to us and all of my teammates. It's not something that's impossible. We have what it takes to win here."
 

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Rays are my second favorite team to root for (from a fan perspective) behind the Royals.

As far as betting, I LOVE the rays cause they get serious value when Shields or Kazmir are throwing. I'll be taking them alot as dogs this year, especially when they match up against Dice-K.

But I'll be honest....last year they were so bad that I made tons of $$ fading them in ML parlays.
 

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Rays are my second favorite team to root for (from a fan perspective) behind the Royals.

As far as betting, I LOVE the rays cause they get serious value when Shields or Kazmir are throwing. I'll be taking them alot as dogs this year, especially when they match up against Dice-K.

But I'll be honest....last year they were so bad that I made tons of $$ fading them in ML parlays.


Roth..I will probably be getting a lot of shit this year, but I will playing my Rays the entire month of April as dogs.

I think Vegas will make them heavy dogs throughout the entire month and I am hoping to cash. I may be wrong here, but they have a great chance to start out hot and maybe fizzle mid season.

Maybe they start out cold then get hot, but if they make this team a dog +140 or higher on a regular basis, I can't pass them up with Garza, Kazmir, Shields pitching.


Price might be up by August with Wade and Davis. Our bullpen will bet a lot better and I expect them to let Longoria start at 3rd.





If ANYTHING, this team will be a lot better defensively. I know that for a fact. Laugh now, but they will be. Only helps the pitchers.
 

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2008 PECOTA Projections (baseballprospectus.com):


The AL East
NYY: 96-66
BOS: 93-69
TOR: 83-79
TB: 82-80
BAL: 69-93



Rays will score 788 runs and allow 776 runs.



Just thought I post these. Says we will have a 4.50 era as well
 

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looks like the AL East will be giving a beating to the rest of the league
 

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looks like the AL East will be giving a beating to the rest of the league


Might have to put something on the Rays future bet of total wins. Around 72 right now.


Trying to figure how NY will win 96 games.
 

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2008 PECOTA Projections (baseballprospectus.com):


The AL East
NYY: 96-66
BOS: 93-69
TOR: 83-79
TB: 82-80
BAL: 69-93



Rays will score 788 runs and allow 776 runs.



Just thought I post these. Says we will have a 4.50 era as well


Rays, I posted a general baseball season preview thread in the offshore. Care to comment? I'm glad you appreciate baseball at these depths.
 

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Rays, I posted a general baseball season preview thread in the offshore. Care to comment? I'm glad you appreciate baseball at these depths.

Bud - You have a link? i scrolled through the first 3 pages and gave up. Thanks!
 

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Ive noticed the total on the Rays total wins were 72 at -125. Juice high or not, Im laying some cash on it and the over.
 

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Ive noticed the total on the Rays total wins were 72 at -125. Juice high or not, Im laying some cash on it and the over.

Wish I could Parlay it with Mariners under and a few others. I am going to become a secondary Rays fan, since my Marlins are non-competing this year.
 

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Cork Gaines, is the editor and lead writer for Rays Index. He is a Tampa native and University of Iowa graduate that is currently lost in New York City. Despite this, he still maintains his status as a Tampa Bay Buccaneers season ticket holder and often makes trips back to the Bay Area just because he has an urge for a grouper sandwich from Hurricane. His words are after the jump.
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I apologize to you if I don't seem real eager to jump into a forced awkward intimate situation that people like to call "previews". I don't like the feeling. You're sitting there, you're wondering have I said something stupid, am I boring, am I writing too much, are you reading enough? I'm not really interested. But I think you might be interested. So all of the sudden I'm getting, I'm starting to get interested... And when am I supposed to insert a joke? Do I have to wait for the end cause then it's awkward, it's like well 'piss-off'. Do you do like that poop joke? Where you like, you laugh like this and snot comes out because you don't want your boss to know you are reading Deadspin. Or do you just go right in and tell the inappropriate OJ joke? Or no joke at all? It's very difficult trying to read the situation. And all the while you're just really wondering are we gonna get hopped up enough to make some bad decisions? Perhaps play a little game called "just the Tampa Bay Rays". Just for a second, just to see how it feels. Or, "ouch, ouch my eyes hurt."
*Will sets Rays preview in corner*
Watching the 2008 Tampa Bay <strike>Devil</strike> Rays will be like watching Natalie Portman in "Beautiful Girls." You know she is going to be hot when she grows up, but part of you wonders if it is OK to look at a 14-year-old that way. And when she does finally grow up and she is even sexier than you imagined, there is a part of you that still sees the 14-year-old and it makes you feel a little guilty. And yet, you can't wait for the Tampa Bay Rays first nude scene...Wait...What was I saying? Nevermind...
Ladies and gentlemen, these are not your older brother's Devil Rays.
The first ten years of the franchise were bad ... really bad. So the new ownership decided changes needed to be made. They cowered to the delicate sensibilities of a few old people in the St. Pete area and dropped the Devil. GM Matt Silverman recently said of the name change "We're no longer the bottom feeding fish...We're much more about the energy of the sun." That's right. The team that plays in a dome now has sunshine for a mascot.
Along with the name change came new uniforms, which were unveiled in a ceremony that lasted longer (2 days) than the Red Sox World Series celebration (1 day) and featured the musical styling of Kevin Costner. It could have been worse. We could have been subjected to Tom Petty reenacting his role in "The Postman" ... Green is out. Dark blue, Carolina Blue and Yellow are in. The team's logo has now been spotted on more semi-celebrity douchebags in the past month (1) than the previous 10 years combined (0). This is not to be confused with semi-celebrity butt-lickers (Dick Vitale) and semi-celebrity fake athletes (Hulk Hogan). We are still debating whether or not this is an upgrade.
The changes didn't stop there. Gone are Delmon Young and his shoulder-mounted bat launcher along with Elijah Dukes and his sperm . And...wait for it....wait for it...the team actually spent money. The Devil Dogs gave long-term contracts to Carlos Pena and James Shields and signed free agents Troy Percival and Cliff Floyd. Of course, between the two, they are 186 years old, have two healthy knees and 8 saves since 2004.
The addition of Percival, as well as several others, means the bullpen, which was statistically one of the worst in the history of baseball, has gone from "I think they just sharted on the mound" to "they give me Irritable Bowel Syndrome". And according to the Bill James Bible, IBS is worth 5.5 wins in the standings.
Random Joke: What is the difference between a Red Sox fan and a Yankees fan? Who cares. Fuck 'em both.
The Rays also added Matt Garza and Jason Bartlett (via the Dick Bat-Tosser trade). Garza joins Scott Kazmir and James Shields to form the top young rotation trio in baseball. They should be joined shortly by two of the Rays seemingly endless supply of top pitching prospects, which includes Jake McGee, Wade Davis and the top pick of the 2007 draft, David Price, among others.
Bartlett should be an upgrade at both shortstop and in the significant-other department over Ben Zobrist. Bartlett, along with the move of Akinori Iwamura to second base, will vastly improve one of the worst defenses in baseball, but Bartlett is going to have to hit better in 2008, if he is going to hold off baseball's top shortstop prospect, Reid Brignac, in 2009.
With all these off-season changes, our heads are spinning, and there are still a number of questions to be answered about the 2008 Tampa Bay Rays sans Devil...
1. Will Edwin Jackson (think Nuke LaLoosh) or Andy Sonnanstine (El Duque's Caucasian brother from another mother) step up and give the Rays one of the best starting rotations in baseball, or are they just place-holders for the above-mentioned prospects? Magic 8-Ball says: Nuke is a big pile 'o poo, but The Duke will be a serviceable innings eater that will win 10-12 games.
2. Can the bullpen back-enders Troy Percival and Al Reyes stay healthy all year? Magic 8-Ball says: Is this a serious question?
3. Will super-prospect Evan Longoria, be the second-coming of David Wright? Magic 8-Ball says: The Dirtbag can do it all! He can hit, hit for power, field, cure cancer, bake, babysit your kids and end the suffering in Darfur.
4. Will we ever reach a point when Rays fans won't panic when they read headlines like THIS? Magic 8-Ball says: Enjoy the 64 kazillion Eva Longoria references in 2008.
5. Will scientists act in time to combine Joel Guzman (power, defense) and Willy Aybar (OBP) into the perfect baseball player? Magic 8-Ball says: We are still years away from enjoying Jolly Guzbar. In the meantime, they both suck.
6. Can Carlos Pena repeat his 2007 performance? Magic 8-Ball says: Pena was a part-time player for first month of 2007. He will have more lineup protection 2008. He has learned to use the whole field. He is in his prime and is a better hitter now than he was 4-5 years ago. You do the math, asshole.
7. Will the Rays be able to sign Scott Kazmir to a long-term contract? Magic 8-Ball says: The Rays are trying to have the same sustained success as the Twins and the A's and that means occasionally they will need to trade their young players when they get expensive. After the Twins gave $486 zillion to Johan Santana, the Rays have a better chance of winning the 2008 World Series. The question is not if the Rays will trade Kazmir. The question now is when.
8. If the Rays win more than 70 games and do not finish in last place, will the time equilibrium be disrupted? Magic 8-Ball says: If Lyle Lovett can sleep with Julia Roberts, anything is possible. Not only will the Rays win more than 70 games in 2008, they will win more than 80 and will actually play meaningful games in September. Seriously. And no, I am not that drunk.
The Tampa Bay Rays will be a team to reckon with in the very near future. I don't give a rat's ass if the Spankees and the Pink Hats keep the Rays in third place five of the next six years. Making the playoffs with a $150MM payroll is like banging a drunk ugly chick. It's easy. And it will never be as pleasurable as having a threesome with your girlfriend and Natalie Portman, which is what it will feel like that one year the Tampa Bay Rays do win the division.
Will 2008 be the Year of the Tampa Bay Devil Dogs?.............O LOOK! CAKE!​
 

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