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Are You a Liberal?

http://www.dennisprager.com/areyouliberal.html

By Dennis Prager

It is my belief that about half of the Americans who call themselves liberal do not hold the great majority of positions held by mainstream liberal institutions such as the New York Times editorial page, People for the American Way, and the liberal wing of the Democratic Party. So here is a test of this thesis to be given to anyone who believes he or she is a liberal.

If you feel I have omitted a liberal position or have unfairly characterized any of them here, please email me. This is still a work in progress.

Thank you,
Dennis Prager

You say you are a liberal.

Do you believe the following?
  1. Standards for admissions to universities, fire departments, etc. should be lowered for people of color.
  2. Bilingual education for children of immigrants, rather than immersion in English, is good for them and for America.
  3. Murderers should never be put to death.
  4. During the Cold War, America should have adopted a nuclear arms freeze.
  5. Colleges should not allow ROTC programs.
  6. It was wrong to wage war against Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War.
  7. Poor parents should not be allowed to have vouchers to send their children to private schools.
  8. It is good that trial lawyers and teachers unions are the two biggest contributors to the Democratic Party.
  9. Marriage should be redefined from male-female to any two people.
  10. A married couple should not have more of a right to adopt a child than two men or two women.
  11. The Boy Scouts should not be allowed to use parks or any other public places and should be prohibited from using churches and synagogues for their meetings.
  12. The present high tax rates are good.
  13. Speech codes on college campuses are good and American values are bad.
  14. The Israelis and Palestinians are morally equivalent.
  15. The United Nations is a moral force for good in the world, and therefore America should be subservient to it and such international institutions as a world court.
  16. It is good that colleges have dropped hundreds of men's sports teams in order to meet gender-based quotas.
  17. No abortions can be labeled immoral.
  18. Restaurants should be prohibited by law from allowing customers to choose between a smoking and a non-smoking section.
  19. High schools should make condoms available to students and teach them how to use them.
  20. Racial profiling for terrorists is wrong -- a white American grandmother should as likely be searched as a Saudi young male.
  21. Racism and poverty -- not a lack of fathers and a crisis of values -- are the primary causes of violent crime in the inner city.
  22. It is wrong and unconstitutional for students to be told, "God bless you" at their graduation.
  23. No culture is morally superior to any other.
Those are all liberal positions. How many of them do you hold?
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Hilarious that there are idiots (*cough* Paulestinians) on this here forum who actually believe that there is "no difference between our two parties" ( Republican and Democrat). Of course the only way anyone could make such an inane statement is by dumbing down the debate with vagaries hoping to steer the conversation into a theoretical pissing match.

Reality check: You're never going to win -- or even level the playing field -- debating ideology or theory. Both sides will always claim the moral high ground on "protecting liberties", "fiscal responsibility" "human rights" etc.... which of course means exactly NOTHING.

If you want to figure out if someone is liberal or not, you need to quiz them on a SPECIFIC SET OF POLICIES.

Of course there is a left and right position on nearly EVERY issue and of course it's fair to label someone a lefty if they happen to agree with 10-15 of the liberal positions Dennis has provided, no matter what the hell they call themselves.

Oh, just one more thing....

Hussein Obama is LEFT on EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM!

Something to think about if you are naive to believe that there are no differences between the parties and that elections do not have consequences.

They most certainly do.
 

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I love the way this guy words the questions...classic. Is he a lawyer of some sort?
 

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24. Do you support state sponsored socialist programs like taxpayer funded adoptions?
 

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I rewrote some of the questions to find out if you guys are conservatives...I got bored so I didn't finish them all

1. Standards for admissions to universities, fire departments, etc. should be lowered for people of color.
Standards for admissions to universities, fire departments, etc should be open and include people of all races
2. Bilingual education for children of immigrants, rather than immersion in English, is good for them and for America.
Children shouldn’t be allowed to know 2 languages
3. Murderers should never be put to death.
It’s good for the government to kill people who’ve done wrong
4. During the Cold War, America should have adopted a nuclear arms freeze.
Should America Over Spend on it’s Military
5. Colleges should not allow ROTC programs.
Colleges Should be forced to have ROTC programs
6. It was wrong to wage war against Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War.
America should Arm Dictators
7. Poor parents should not be allowed to have vouchers to send their children to private schools.
Children shouldn’t be allow to have a good education where they live
8. It is good that trial lawyers and teachers unions are the two biggest contributors to the Democratic Party.
It is good that Arms dealers and religious Fanatics are big contributors to the Republican Party
9. Marriage should be redefined from male-female to any two people.
Marriage should be defined by the government
10. A married couple should not have more of a right to adopt a child than two men or two women.
Abandoned Children should not be allowed into loving homes
 
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2. Bilingual education for children of immigrants, rather than immersion in English, is good for them and for America. > Strongly Disagree
 

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Welcome to the GOP, Scott -- the RX's Dennis Miller.
:toast:

I know you've stated you're 'liberal' on domestic issues (except national security) but ya know, that's what the left wants you to think. Most -- and I mean 80% of the population -- are CONSERVATIVE, it's just that the the institutions of liberalism (college, media etc) have succeeded so well in framing the debate, vilifying conservatives as trigger-happy, big government fascists who get a high trampling on the poor and mentally retarded.

Just think...right now Hussein Obama is traveling across the county masking his far, far, far, far, far left agenda with empty platitudes and meaningless 'centrist' rhetoric ("change", "unity" "hope" )....

Hussein Obama can't talk about THE ISSUES otherwise he will be exposed as the commie fraud that he is!
 

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Good to see Markie tilting back towards Manic....More smiles in his household during that end of the cycle.

And we all benefit here with the steadily increasing Smiley icons and MULITPLE SIZEDand COLORED FONTS!

Raise a glass to rainbow cyber posts with loaded poll questions!
 

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Reality check: You're never going to win -- or even level the playing field -- debating ideology or theory. Both sides will always claim the moral high ground on "protecting liberties", "fiscal responsibility" "human rights" etc.... which of course means exactly NOTHING.

You finnaly said it. Both sides can talk all they want about "fiscal responsibility" but at the end of the day it means..."nothing". Your right, it doesn't mean anything as they both spend and spend and continue to bury us in debt and inflation. "But fletch, the GDP.... bla bla bla" the spending is the bottom line, follow the money. The Governments most important issue is the handling of the nations money, everything else is second. That lead issue is something that means nothing, and that is why at the end of the day, they are EXACTLY alike.
 

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Joke C please show us the proof to verify Obamas position on these points. I am sure as usual you cant do it or maybe I stepped into a trap. Though with your history here I am sure I have a safe bet that you can't show his positions on this.

Isn't it great seeing these neo-cons shaking in there boots? Affraid of Obama and begging for the Dems to give Clinton the nomination.:103631605
 

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You finnaly said it. Both sides can talk all they want about "fiscal responsibility" but at the end of the day it means..."nothing". Your right, it doesn't mean anything as they both spend and spend and continue to bury us in debt and inflation. "But fletch, the GDP.... bla bla bla" the spending is the bottom line, follow the money. The Governments most important issue is the handling of the nations money, everything else is second. That lead issue is something that means nothing, and that is why at the end of the day, they are EXACTLY alike.

What the fuck is "fiscal responsibility"? Again, someone is spewing MEANINGLESS IDEOLOGICAL RHETORIC -- no specific pragmatic discussion of POLICY(s) whatsoever.

1) What SPECIFIC govt policies or programs would you cut?

2) How is your plan POLITICALLY viable -- for example, with a Democrat Congress?

Oh, and just a friendly reminder: if you continue to act as a messenger for our resident crack addict, you will end up in the same place -- on Ignore.
 

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No Please! Not the IGNORE button!

Meanwhile, I gotta a sawbuck that sez Mark's done a truckload of bipolar meds in the 13 and 1/2 years since I last smoked some rock.
 

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  1. Standards for admissions to universities, fire departments, etc. should be lowered for people of color. HELL NO!
  2. Bilingual education for children of immigrants, rather than immersion in English, is good for them and for America. NO
  3. Murderers should never be put to death. STRONGLY DISAGREE
  4. During the Cold War, America should have adopted a nuclear arms freeze. NO
  5. Colleges should not allow ROTC programs. YES THEY SHOULD.
  6. It was wrong to wage war against Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War. WRONG
  7. Poor parents should not be allowed to have vouchers to send their children to private schools. DONT KNOW
  8. It is good that trial lawyers and teachers unions are the two biggest contributors to the Democratic Party. ITS A JOKE
  9. Marriage should be redefined from male-female to any two people. DONT CARE
  10. A married couple should not have more of a right to adopt a child than two men or two women. BETTER FOR A MARRIED COUPLE
  11. The Boy Scouts should not be allowed to use parks or any other public places and should be prohibited from using churches and synagogues for their meetings. DONT CARE - THEY'RE QUEER
  12. The present high tax rates are good. EFF YOU OBAMA
  13. Speech codes on college campuses are good and American values are bad. DONT CARE
  14. The Israelis and Palestinians are morally equivalent. WHO KNOWS?
  15. The United Nations is a moral force for good in the world, and therefore America should be subservient to it and such international institutions as a world court. AT THE END OF THE DAY - WE NEED TO LOOK OUT FOR US.
  16. It is good that colleges have dropped hundreds of men's sports teams in order to meet gender-based quotas. ITS A JOKE
  17. No abortions can be labeled immoral. DONT KNOW
  18. Restaurants should be prohibited by law from allowing customers to choose between a smoking and a non-smoking section. THEY SHOULD ALLOW FOR A SECTION IF THEY CHOOSE
  19. High schools should make condoms available to students and teach them how to use them. THEY SHOULD TEACH SAFE SEX
  20. Racial profiling for terrorists is wrong -- a white American grandmother should as likely be searched as a Saudi young male. PROFILE THE M'FERS!!!!
  21. Racism and poverty -- not a lack of fathers and a crisis of values -- are the primary causes of violent crime in the inner city. EXCUSES ARE FOR LOSERS LIKE THE PHOENIX SUNS!
  22. It is wrong and unconstitutional for students to be told, "God bless you" at their graduation. ITS NOT HURTING ANYONE.
  23. No culture is morally superior to any other. SOME ARE
OK Joe, how did I do?
 

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What the fuck is "fiscal responsibility"? Again, someone is spewing MEANINGLESS IDEOLOGICAL RHETORIC -- no specific pragmatic discussion of POLICY(s) whatsoever.

1) What SPECIFIC govt policies or programs would you cut?

2) How is your plan POLITICALLY viable -- for example, with a Democrat Congress?

Oh, and just a friendly reminder: if you continue to act as a messenger for our resident crack addict, you will end up in the same place -- on Ignore.
this obama has you in a tizzy.....poor joey ignore the whole forum why dont you and just leave.......OBAMA IN 2008
 

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What the fuck is "fiscal responsibility"? Again, someone is spewing MEANINGLESS IDEOLOGICAL RHETORIC -- no specific pragmatic discussion of POLICY(s) whatsoever.

1) What SPECIFIC govt policies or programs would you cut?

2) How is your plan POLITICALLY viable -- for example, with a Democrat Congress?

Oh, and just a friendly reminder: if you continue to act as a messenger for our resident crack addict, you will end up in the same place -- on Ignore.

Joe what the fuck are you talking about? Did Bush have a Dem congress the first 6 years??? Fiscal Responsibility is called...BALANCING YOUR BOOKS. YOU KNOW, NOT RUNNING UP A DEFICIT, so that you can stay away from Deficit spending. I know you think this is impossible, but it can be done. As a matter of fact it was done from 1998-2001. I dont care if it was Clinton or congress or what, the bottom line is the budget was balanced, they paid the bills. Only a fucking teenager or a child will try to spend more money then they have coming in, nobody can live in the red. Although the government and the average American seem to think differently. But eventually the bills will come and they will have to be paid.
 

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I be no Liberal. I am a Libertarian libertine.

:cripwalk::cripwalk::cripwalk::cripwalk:
 

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1. Standards for admissions to universities, fire departments, etc. should be lowered for people of color. HELL NO!
2. Bilingual education for children of immigrants, rather than immersion in English, is good for them and for America. NO
3. Murderers should never be put to death. STRONGLY DISAGREE
4. During the Cold War, America should have adopted a nuclear arms freeze. NO
5. Colleges should not allow ROTC programs. YES THEY SHOULD.
6. It was wrong to wage war against Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War. WRONG
7. Poor parents should not be allowed to have vouchers to send their children to private schools. DONT KNOW
8. It is good that trial lawyers and teachers unions are the two biggest contributors to the Democratic Party. ITS A JOKE
9. Marriage should be redefined from male-female to any two people. DONT CARE
10. A married couple should not have more of a right to adopt a child than two men or two women. BETTER FOR A MARRIED COUPLE
11. The Boy Scouts should not be allowed to use parks or any other public places and should be prohibited from using churches and synagogues for their meetings. DONT CARE - THEY'RE QUEER
12. The present high tax rates are good. EFF YOU OBAMA
13. Speech codes on college campuses are good and American values are bad. DONT CARE
14. The Israelis and Palestinians are morally equivalent. WHO KNOWS?
15. The United Nations is a moral force for good in the world, and therefore America should be subservient to it and such international institutions as a world court. AT THE END OF THE DAY - WE NEED TO LOOK OUT FOR US.
16. It is good that colleges have dropped hundreds of men's sports teams in order to meet gender-based quotas. ITS A JOKE
17. No abortions can be labeled immoral. DONT KNOW
18. Restaurants should be prohibited by law from allowing customers to choose between a smoking and a non-smoking section. THEY SHOULD ALLOW FOR A SECTION IF THEY CHOOSE
19. High schools should make condoms available to students and teach them how to use them. THEY SHOULD TEACH SAFE SEX
20. Racial profiling for terrorists is wrong -- a white American grandmother should as likely be searched as a Saudi young male. PROFILE THE M'FERS!!!!
21. Racism and poverty -- not a lack of fathers and a crisis of values -- are the primary causes of violent crime in the inner city. EXCUSES ARE FOR LOSERS LIKE THE PHOENIX SUNS!
22. It is wrong and unconstitutional for students to be told, "God bless you" at their graduation. ITS NOT HURTING ANYONE.
23. No culture is morally superior to any other. SOME ARE

OK Joe, how did I do?

You're a strong fiscal conservative with a realistic outlook on global security and -- fair to say -- ambivalent on most social issues? Rudy Giuliani was probably your first choice.

I know there can be a tendency for libertarian spirits to ignore or trend left on social issues believing we (as individuals) couldn't possibly have a stake in the outcome of the teenager down the street. Or that -- heaven forbid! -- we "impose our morality on others." How judgmental! :nopityA:

The truth is, there's always a fallout for societies that unwisely opt for the religion of self-gratification -- no judgment or limits placed on personal behavior -- for the simple fact that very, very few individuals can handle uninhibited freedom.

I repeat: very few individuals can handle uninhibited freedom.

If most people could handle freedom, anarchy would be a national best seller (see the Ron Paul Internet Poll "Revolution").

Yes, it's true, we all have our demons, vices, weaknesses, insecurities -- and some of us, well, end up like our resident crack head.

This is not a call for govt to legislate moral behavior -- on the contrary.

I am simply making the case that uninhibited freedom at any age isn't liberty at all.

After all, how 'free' can a person be if they are addicted to drugs, alcohol, gambling, promiscuous sex or some other dysfunctional social behavior? How 'free' can a man's life be if he's stuck making child support payments to a woman he had no intention of marrying? How likely is someone to achieve financial independence if they are saddled with gambling debt or simply can't manage their finances?

Part of growing up (admittedly, a concept foreign to liberals who grew up in the 50s and 60s) is the recognition that boundaries are a good thing -- especially for young people.

If you were raised in a decent family, the boundaries your parents placed on you weren't there to "cramp your style" (a mindset only a teenager could appreciate).

Young people need discipline -- fact.
Young people need to express and themselves, but only achieve real growth within constructive boundaries -- fact.

Young people need institutions and communities that instill good moral, healthy living habits -- a network of friends, authority figures and role models that will allow them to grow up to be responsible, successful, independent citizens.

And just what are these institutions?

The basic family unit, the local church, Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts, the military, close knit communities...in short, every institution and organization the left demonizes and spends all their energy and time tearing down.

About the only institution the left hasn't declared Jihad against is -- wait for it -- BIG GOVERNMENT because liberals believe there is a government solution to EVERY problem. It doesn't matter what it is...every social ill, every aching heart, every individual financial burden...just throw more money at the problem!

In these vote-harvesting times, there's nothing more government can't fix!

Just listen to that commie fraud Hussein Obama and you will hear what I mean.

This is why YOU Seymour as a conservative have a stake in the social makeup and cultural fabric of our society -- the current culture war ongoing in our schools, businesses, churches, courts etc.

Almost everywhere you look, liberals are pro-actively screwing something up, believing, despite all their documented failures, they can do it better...

The liberal mantra is simple: government can plan your life for you better than YOU can plan it yourself.

The more we allow these moonbats to erode the moral fabric of our culture with their juvenile impulses and idealism ("make sex and drugs, not war -- life's all about feeling good, baby!"), the more broken and hurtin' people will fall through the cracks. And the more broken and hurtin' people fall through the cracks, the more likely it is likely that people will cry out for big leftist government to intervene and fix all our problems.

Let's face it, it has always been easier to be suckered in by the simplistic emotive language the left uses, as opposed to the wisdom of the ages -- adult conservativism. This is a political reality we have always had to deal with and it's not going to change anytime soon.

The Paultards worship at the idea that a healthy society begins and ends with a healthy economy, which of course is total crap. The reason we are mired in red ink is because we've "socially engineered" a totally broken, dependent society -- a society that is WEAKER culturally, morally, spiritually (soon to be economically if we're not careful) than it was during the Great Depression and at the end of the World War II.

Despite all this prosperity and freedom, we have higher rates of suicide, depression, abortions, teen pregnancies, drug addictions (both legal and illegal) and government dependence and intervention (at the local, state and federal level) than ever before.

"Balancing the budget" is canned soundbite and will not fix what ails us....

-- Our education system has failed our young people.
-- Our health care system is on the verge of collapse, despite the govt absorbing almost 60% of the costs.
-- Social Security -- another govt concoction -- is going broke...
-- Entitlements will soon take up 70% of our budget ("bringing the troops home" is a leftist red herring and will do absolutely NOTHING to the fiscal health of this country long term)

The economic cost of this gradual cultural erosion is incalculable.

Since the New Deal, almost everything the government has managed it has turned into...well...the Soviet Union on a smaller scale.

And yet only a liberal would suggest the answer to fixing broken government is BIGGER GOVERNMENT. After all, it's not how WRONG liberals are, it's that "they mean well" -- end of debate, you heartless conservative bastard!

Jimmy Carter was hands down the worst -- absolute WORST -- President in history, and yet liberals like Judge Wapner continue to say, "yeah, but he was a good man" -- as if "meaning well" excuses neolithic incompetence.

Ask Hussein Obama how he plans on fixing our broken state-run education system and his answer is predictable -- government, government, government and more government....by taxing "the rich." (Who said liberals weren't religious?)

And now the Church of Liberalism has found it's latest Pope Hope: B. Hussein Obama. :pucking:

Seymour, you don't have to be religious or a social conservative to understand you have a financial stake in this culture war.

The weaker the culture, the more dysfunctional society; the more dysfunctional society, the stronger the impulses for socialism; the stronger the impulses for socialism, the higher the economic burden of carrying those who cannot carry themselves; the higher the economic burden of carrying those who cannot carry themselves, the higher your taxes.

True founding father Conservatism is a holy trinity -- social, economic and national security. You really can't have one without the other two.

Truth is, when someone tells me they are socially liberal and conservative everything else, I don't deride them the way I do hardcore moonbats who have ZERO intellectual curiosity and capacity (you know who you are).

The very fact they are conservative means they have excellent analytical and critical thinking skills which means given enough time, reading and political activism, they'll get there eventually.

I have met PLENTY of conservatives who are recovering liberals -- I'm talking about governing philosophy, not 'D' and 'R'. I have yet to encounter the opposite and this gives me hope.

Unlike all the idiots crying, fainting and cheering for Hussein Obama, you're a great, successful, American, Seymour. Of course you're a Republican.

:toast:
 

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