Any carpenters in the house?

bigbet1234 · Feb 29, 2008

I need a bar, bout 10ft long. I was at a bar once and seen what I think was Epoxy under a sheet of either plexi-glass or glass with old coins under it.

Well, I want a bar to have vintage illegal gambling chips imbeaded in the epoxi, or poly eurthane(sp). would like maple wood too.

I have called a few guys and got an estimate from 4-8K. Does this sound right?

douglas · Feb 29, 2008

big .........not sure if its a good price .....
but I would sure like to have a drink on it
sounds great ........enjoy it

aceduecetrey · Feb 29, 2008

Depends on the value of the chips.....

But seriously, no it is way too high! You could build your own for much less than that and it is not hard.

bigbet1234 · Feb 29, 2008

it's actually going in a coffee bar i am opening, no alcohol served yet. but the coffee bar is going to be based around the illegal gambling period of 30-50's in Newport, Ky. back when the cleveland syndicate ran the casions.

i have tons of chips, napkins, matchbooks, etc from that time frame. it will be unique for sure. stop by if your ever in cincinnati

douglas said:
big .........not sure if its a good price .....
but I would sure like to have a drink on it
sounds great ........enjoy it

bigbet1234 · Feb 29, 2008

i wan thinking that, but really dont have the time. i may attempt it and save a few bucks

aceduecetrey said:
Depends on the value of the chips.....

But seriously, no it is way too high! You could build your own for much less than that and it is not hard.

douglas · Feb 29, 2008

no alcohol served yet.

YET ...........seriously sounds great .....
All the best

fivedoorsdown · Feb 29, 2008

bigbet1234 said:
I need a bar, bout 10ft long. I was at a bar once and seen what I think was Epoxy under a sheet of either plexi-glass or glass with old coins under it.

Well, I want a bar to have vintage illegal gambling chips imbeaded in the epoxi, or poly eurthane(sp). would like maple wood too.

I have called a few guys and got an estimate from 4-8K. Does this sound right?

well thats quite a spread 4-8 k . first off how thick of a slab on top. and how wide??seen it 2 inches thick(pricy)
ok now the frame to set it on regular frame. what do you want to finish outside around of it. do you want a foot rail?? can you post a .picture of one similar .
to many unanswered questions for pricing

WVU · Feb 29, 2008

carpentry and coin talk will draw out Doug in a heartbeat

BEANTOWNJIM · Feb 29, 2008

IF YOUR TALKING ABOUT COINS I THINK WHAT YOU DO IS DRILL HOLES THE SAME SIZE AS THE COINS AND THE DEPTH.THIS WAY THEY ARE FLUSH WITH THE WOOD ON THE BAR THEN I THINK ITS JUST LIKE 5 COATS OF POLYURATHANE.I BELIEVE THAT IS HOW THEY DO IT.

fivedoorsdown · Feb 29, 2008

local bar had it done but with old baseball cards. someone had gotten them copied and then coated into the wood. would you believe me if i told you people were trying to dig them out thinking they were real??

anyways if any of those coins or what have yous is worth anything i wouldnt waste them. they will be useless when your done

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1cheater · Feb 29, 2008

Call a couple bars around town and ask if they have a referal for someone who did theirs and get lot's of estimates.. 4-8k sounds high to me, but I've never dealt with that product..

Kornholio · Feb 29, 2008

This is actually what I do for a living. Been doing in for 9 years and do stuff on my own too. That epoxy you talk about doesn't usually have glass over it...it is poured on that thick (1/4" or more). It is about as indestructable finish their is...why they use it for bar tops.

AceDeuce says it is not that hard to do yourself...haha, try it. I don't doubt you could make a piece of shit for $1000...seen it before many times. I've seen the cabinetry of experienced carpenters and it is laughable. It takes years to learn this trade, and what's more minimum of 8-10K in tools to build something like a bar...that is if it's not a peice.

10' bar out of maple, off the top of my head (once again w/ seeing the drawings) I would personally do for around 4500-5K, a shop would have to charge more because of overhead.

If it were a simple design, I would charge less.

Hope this helps.

Kornholio · Feb 29, 2008

and btw people are often surprised the price is a lot higher than they thought it would be, and I still make peanuts on the job. That's why I hate it sometimes.

Custom woodworking is just flat out expensive. Sheetgoods are expensive, lumber is expensive, tooling is expensive, finish is expensive, and time is money. All of it is a lot more time consuming than you'd think.

ECS · Feb 29, 2008

sounds pretty cool bigbet, wouldn't mind swinging in for a drink and to check out this bar, keep me updated.

Going to any redleg games this season? Not to hijack thread, but I like the fact the owner is trying which is more than Mikey boy can say

bigbet1234 · Mar 1, 2008

Going to opening day, you? Red's will be better this year for sure, they can't be any worse

ECS said:
sounds pretty cool bigbet, wouldn't mind swinging in for a drink and to check out this bar, keep me updated.

Going to any redleg games this season? Not to hijack thread, but I like the fact the owner is trying which is more than Mikey boy can say

aceduecetrey · Mar 1, 2008

Kornholio said:
This is actually what I do for a living. Been doing in for 9 years and do stuff on my own too. That epoxy you talk about doesn't usually have glass over it...it is poured on that thick (1/4" or more). It is about as indestructable finish their is...why they use it for bar tops.

AceDeuce says it is not that hard to do yourself...haha, try it. I don't doubt you could make a piece of shit for $1000...seen it before many times. I've seen the cabinetry of experienced carpenters and it is laughable. It takes years to learn this trade, and what's more minimum of 8-10K in tools to build something like a bar...that is if it's not a peice.

10' bar out of maple, off the top of my head (once again w/ seeing the drawings) I would personally do for around 4500-5K, a shop would have to charge more because of overhead.

If it were a simple design, I would charge less.

Hope this helps.

No offense to your profession, but I have made them before and I did not find it difficult....

betedgeonly · Mar 1, 2008

aceduecetrey said:
No offense to your profession, but I have made them before and I did not find it difficult....

Kornhollio is rt about this. No offense, but what you may have built could be satisfying to your expectations, but I myself also am a carpenter and what people expect for the amount they want to pay is usually ridiculous. How strucually sound is it? There is a big difference in the cost of certain material and finish products. What is your time worth to you? Do you have the proper tool's? I can't imagine most people going out and spending $1500.00-$2,000.00 just to build one bar and not really use them much after that. I alone carry approx 6k-8k dollars in my work van everyday. And that does not include the equipment I have in my shop. I hope your happy with your bar because that is the most important thing about it. :103631605

beo

betedgeonly · Mar 1, 2008

bigbet1234 said:
I need a bar, bout 10ft long. I was at a bar once and seen what I think was Epoxy under a sheet of either plexi-glass or glass with old coins under it.

Well, I want a bar to have vintage illegal gambling chips imbeaded in the epoxi, or poly eurthane(sp). would like maple wood too.

I have called a few guys and got an estimate from 4-8K. Does this sound right?

You should get at least 3 estimates before you make a decision. I ALWAY'S encourage any new customer's of mine to do this so they can see how fair my prices are. They respect it for one, and secondly it seem's to help me land the job more often than not. People are generally lazy and just want to get it over with, and after I urge them to do this they tend to have even more trust in my bid. Plus if I was you I would go out and look at some place's that have some pre built bar's and price match them with what you are looking for. Your not in Mich are you?

beo

Doug · Mar 1, 2008

Kornholio said:
This is actually what I do for a living. Been doing in for 9 years and do stuff on my own too. That epoxy you talk about doesn't usually have glass over it...it is poured on that thick (1/4" or more). It is about as indestructable finish their is...why they use it for bar tops.

AceDeuce says it is not that hard to do yourself...haha, try it. I don't doubt you could make a piece of shit for $1000...seen it before many times. I've seen the cabinetry of experienced carpenters and it is laughable. It takes years to learn this trade, and what's more minimum of 8-10K in tools to build something like a bar...that is if it's not a peice.

10' bar out of maple, off the top of my head (once again w/ seeing the drawings) I would personally do for around 4500-5K, a shop would have to charge more because of overhead.

I wouldn't want to do this myself ( or hire me to do it), I lack the experience to likely do an A job of it. I've never worked with that epoxy stuff. ( or sheet maple). I'm a rough car

penter ( framer) type, not a finish guy. I'm 2X4's and plywood, not fine wood.

However you wouldn't want to set anything very valuable ( like thousands of $) into it, IMO. No problem putting a silver dollar worth $25 into it, but not a Primo coin, gambling token, banknote,etc. That substance can't be good for any collectible worth real money.

Some old large size banknotes would be a cool item to put in there, few know of them, or have seen them, so it would be interesting to many. They are sometimes called "Horseblankets" because of their size. Perhaps $50 for a large size $1 bill ( well worn). It could be sealed in a plastic sleeve.