Do You foul with less than 10 seconds?

bigtendominator · Mar 2, 2008

I can't understand why coaches don't foul up 3 with less than 10 seconds.

Too many factors have to occur for the opponent to beat or tie you if you foul.

TheFunkMonkey · Mar 2, 2008

bigtendominator said:
I can't understand why coaches don't foul up 3 with less than 10 seconds.

Too many factors have to occur for the opponent to beat or tie you if you foul.

Well, more like 5 seconds. Fouling with 10 is way too early. Especially in the NBA, when you can call TO and advance the ball to halfcourt.

(possibly the most ridiculous rule in sports. Automatically advancing the ball to halfcourt? How does that make ANY sense? Imagine if baseball teams were allowed to put a runner on 1st to start the 9th inning. Or if football teams were allowed to start at the 50 during the last 2 minutes.)

bigtendominator · Mar 2, 2008

The Funk Monkey said:
Well, more like 5 seconds. Fouling with 10 is way too early. Especially in the NBA, when you can call TO and advance the ball to halfcourt.

(possibly the most ridiculous rule in sports. Automatically advancing the ball to halfcourt? How does that make ANY sense? Imagine if baseball teams were allowed to put a runner on 1st to start the 9th inning. Or if football teams were allowed to start at the 50 during the last 2 minutes.)

What you think there is something wrong with a team in the NFL moving the ball from their own 20 to the opponents 20 with 10 seconds lefts, if they have 1 timeout.

I am actually curious as to when this bs rule was put into place, it needs to be abolished.

TheFunkMonkey · Mar 2, 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHceOvR464s

This play will never happen in the NBA. Thanks to David Stern and his stupid rules.

Anti-liberal · Mar 2, 2008

shdw01 · Mar 2, 2008

I think 10 is too much time (like above poster)

5 or less, i can go either way....but i would probably guard the 3-pt line tight as hell and give up the under....

nothing worse than giving up 3 FTs in the closing seconds of a 3-pt game....let alone a 4-pt play

BillyHoyle · Mar 2, 2008

WOULD play it straight up till buzzer sounds everytime...NO FOULS!

billy h.

bigtendominator · Mar 2, 2008

BillyHoyle said:
WOULD play it straight up till buzzer sounds everytime...NO FOULS!

billy h.

Phil did that today and ended up in OT. Bruiser Flint did that 2 weeks ago and lost in OT.

quantumleap · Mar 2, 2008

bigtendominator said:
Phil did that today and ended up in OT. Bruiser Flint did that 2 weeks ago and lost in OT.

Dallas didn't have any timeouts left and the Lakers were up by 3. Kidd got the ball inside the 3-point arc so you foul him then. Especially when you have an outside threat like Dirk. It's not like he never drained one from 3-point range.

I had the under 104 1/2 for the 2nd half.

:bitch:

BillyHoyle · Mar 2, 2008

bigtendominator said:
Phil did that today and ended up in OT. Bruiser Flint did that 2 weeks ago and lost in OT.

you bring up 2 occasions...and how many other games have went FINAL in that 2 week span with no fouls?????????

STRAIGHT UP DEFENSE YO!!!!!!

billy h.

BadCo · Mar 2, 2008

The T.V. guys were begging Phil to foul and did say that Jackson doesn't foul in that situation.

Sure enough,but Dirk inbounded and then no one guarded him.

Needed the plus points so all's well that ends well.

bigtendominator · Mar 2, 2008

BillyHoyle said:
you bring up 2 occasions...and how many other games have went FINAL in that 2 week span with no fouls?????????

STRAIGHT UP DEFENSE YO!!!!!!

billy h.

These are 2 on the top my mind. If you foul, they have to make the 1st miss the 2nd get the rebound, and make a shot.

Let them shoot and they just need to make 1 shot.

imokbutmybetssick · Mar 2, 2008

so did marquette agains gtown and got fuked 2

bigtendominator said:
Phil did that today and ended up in OT. Bruiser Flint did that 2 weeks ago and lost in OT.

foul up 3 makes both up 1 makes 1 of 2 ewing jr hits 2 throw fed the bigs down low and ot loss for marquette

BillyHoyle · Mar 2, 2008

bigtendominator said:
These are 2 on the top my mind. If you foul, they have to make the 1st miss the 2nd get the rebound, and make a shot.

Let them shoot and they just need to make 1 shot.

listen bud...I understand the "CONCEPT" for making the foul...just a lot of if's, and's, what if a lane violation, an over the back, a tip in... just my opinion....peace

billy h.

sabinebaure · Mar 3, 2008

The Funk Monkey said:
Well, more like 5 seconds. Fouling with 10 is way too early. Especially in the NBA, when you can call TO and advance the ball to halfcourt.

(possibly the most ridiculous rule in sports. Automatically advancing the ball to halfcourt? How does that make ANY sense? Imagine if baseball teams were allowed to put a runner on 1st to start the 9th inning. Or if football teams were allowed to start at the 50 during the last 2 minutes.)

i agree 5 or 4 is right.in the game today avery didnt have any more timeouts,plus they had to take the ball full court.

GoBlue34 · Mar 3, 2008

When has anyone seen a foul up 3 late in the game hurt the team with the lead?

I've seen exactly zero...

bigtendominator · Mar 3, 2008

GoBlue34 said:
When has anyone seen a foul up 3 late in the game hurt the team with the lead?

I've seen exactly zero...

Have not seen it either.

CoolBreeze22 · Mar 3, 2008

I've seen it. Team up 3 points fouls, guy hits the first free throw, misses the second free throw. The team down 2 grabs the offensive rebound, gets the put back and is fouled again. Guy hits the free throw and the team that was up by 3 is now losing the game by 1. This scenario and the scenario where the team is trying to foul and they accidentally foul the guy while he attempts a 3 pointer is the reason coaches don't foul in this situation.

GoBlue34 · Mar 3, 2008

CoolBreeze22 said:
I've seen it. Team up 3 points fouls, guy hits the first free throw, misses the second free throw. The team down 2 grabs the offensive rebound, gets the put back and is fouled again. Guy hits the free throw and the team that was up by 3 is now losing the game by 1. This scenario and the scenario where the team is trying to foul and they accidentally foul the guy while he attempts a 3 pointer is the reason coaches don't foul in this situation.

Ok, there is one example. Now list examples of the other team hitting a 3 to force OT. Dirk yesterday...

That list is a TAD longer.

Doug · Mar 3, 2008

quantumleap said:
Dallas didn't have any timeouts left and the Lakers were up by 3. Kidd got the ball inside the 3-point arc so you foul him then. Especially when you have an outside threat like Dirk. It's not like he never drained one from 3-point range.

I had the under 104 1/2 for the 2nd half.

:bitch:

I agree, foul the man on that play, he should not go inside the arc.
It helped me because I had over.