"Shelley" Duncan is a POS punk

ButI'mTedBell · Mar 12, 2008

Low class play by him today.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=280312130

Don't understand their beef. Backup catcher breaks his wrist on a clean play at the plate, and doesn't have a problem with the play. "Shelley" takes exception, makes veiled threats about payback and then pulls this obvious cheap shot crap. He's also a pussy for lying about his intent afterward. If you're going to be a punk, at least be honest.

The Rays didn't throw at ARod or Jeter, or put one flap down on a HR in the previous game. A guy trying to make the club does what he is supposed to do--scores a run. Catcher was attempting to stop him by blocking the plate. If it's "only preseason", then why didn't the catcher concede the run instead of risking injury? Even if they had the overwhelming need to retaliate, once they hit wonderkid Longoria that should have been the end.

Bush league anyway you cut it.

primetime21+ · Mar 12, 2008

So its cool for a guy to potentially wreck a guys career by barreling into him at home during an exhibition game. But duncan slides hard into second base and he is the anti-christ.

Tell me how that makes any sense.

Mr.Smith · Mar 12, 2008

Girardi is way to wound up and he has that team all wound up. Its spring training for Chrissakes. Agree the crying by Girardi over that play was dumb, now weve got bench brawls.

its a long season. Girardi needs to cool it.

Mr.Smith · Mar 12, 2008

primetime, one is a baseball play ( like it or not, it wasnt outside the game) , one is a cheap shot.

Mr.Smith · Mar 12, 2008

hadnt read this far, what a jackass ..........

Duncan's hard grounder glanced off third baseman Evan Longoria's glove for an error and rolled up the line in foul territory. Duncan rounded first and hesitated before taking off for second -- a move the Rays perceived as conclusive evidence he had ill intentions.

Longoria's throw to Iwamura beat the runner by at least 10 feet, but Duncan went into the bag hard anyway. hno:

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ButI'mTedBell · Mar 12, 2008

primetime21 said:
So its cool for a guy to potentially wreck a guys career by barreling into him at home during an exhibition game. But duncan slides hard into second base and he is the anti-christ.

Tell me how that makes any sense.

Never said the injury to the catcher was cool. I said it was clean. If the catcher is so concerned about a career threating injury, it's pretty simple. Don't block the plate. Concede the run since it's only an exhibition.

I also called Shelley a POS, not the anti-christ. He purposely attempted to injure Iwamurra. Made comments about something possibly happening this game. If you don't honestly see the difference in the 2 plays, then I guess we'll just disagree.

primetime21+ · Mar 12, 2008

I love the logic that if a catcher is blocking the plate (which is basic catcher instinct) he is therefore fair game and the other team can just run over the catcher with complete disregard for the catchers health, even if it is an exhibition game.

People just want to completely ignore the fact that it was an exhibition game and take the TB kid completely off the hook.

At least TB is on alert for next spring. Run over one of our catchers and you can be sure that someone on your team will pay the price.

JakeT. · Mar 12, 2008

primetime21 said:
I love the logic that if a catcher is blocking the plate (which is basic catcher instinct) he is therefore fair game and the other team can just run over the catcher with complete disregard for the catchers health, even if it is an exhibition game.

People just want to completely ignore the fact that it was an exhibition game and take the TB kid completely off the hook.

At least TB is on alert for next spring. Run over one of our catchers and you can be sure that someone on your team will pay the price.

I'd run him over in an exhibition game. The kid was trying to earn a spot in the team. Somehow being tagged out at home and not going all out doesn't seem like a good way to impress anyone. I've ran over catchers before and if they don't want to get run over, they don't play the spot and don't get in the way. PS, I've also barreled into a guy who was alot bigger than I was and got damn near knocked out (as well as tagged out) from the collision. I would never complain about that, and most catchers won't complain about getting ran into... preseason or not. That's my take.

primetime21+ · Mar 12, 2008

jakethompson said:
I'd run him over in an exhibition game. The kid was trying to earn a spot in the team. Somehow being tagged out at home and not going all out doesn't seem like a good way to impress anyone. I've ran over catchers before and if they don't want to get run over, they don't play the spot and don't get in the way. PS, I've also barreled into a guy who was alot bigger than I was and got damn near knocked out (as well as tagged out) from the collision. I would never complain about that, and most catchers won't complain about getting ran into... preseason or not. That's my take.

Thats fine, but my problem is when the TB backers start whining because one of their guys gets spiked by an overaggressive yankee. Either we are all big men and can handle the heat or we aren't.

I wasn't on this message board whining about the play at home until people started whining about duncan.

asufan550 · Mar 12, 2008

primetime21 said:
Thats fine, but my problem is when the TB backers start whining because one of their guys gets spiked by an overaggressive yankee. Either we are all big men and can handle the heat or we aren't.

I wasn't on this message board whining about the play at home until people started whining about duncan.

Here's the difference, stupid: Duncan wasn't trying to beat a throw or break up a double play. He was out by a mile and went in SPIKES UP. You just don't do shit like that. Especially in the spring. The key is there was obvious, major intent to cause an injury on one play, and not on the other.

barman · Mar 12, 2008

asufan550 said:
Here's the difference, stupid: Duncan wasn't trying to beat a throw or break up a double play. He was out by a mile and went in SPIKES UP. You just don't do shit like that. Especially in the spring. The key is there was obvious, major intent to cause an injury on one play, and not on the other.

Correct. Duncan was ten feet shy of the bag when Iwamura dropped his glove to tag and Duncan then went in with his spike up at almost waist level.

Told local reporters he was "trying to knock the ball loose", though of course the ball was down in front of the bag.

Too bad it didnt' happen when Billy Crystal was in the dugout so he would have had to join the brawl.

Harvey Dent · Mar 13, 2008

Rays have made it clear this spring they can dish it out, but cant back it up

Gomes sure looked like a idiot came running at duncan and duncan didnt move

If duncan played for the Padres or something this would be a issue

rays need to shut the fuck up and move on

"Shelley" Duncan is a POS punk

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