i'm going on record right now...BIG BROWN will win the kentucky derby

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i seen this horse up close and personal, he is truly one of a kind
jump on BIG BROWN to win the kentucky derby if you can find good odds. He will end up being your heavy favorite on MAY 3rd after he crushes the FLorida Derby Field saturday.

great article about him

Anyone who has spent time around Rick Dutrow probably would agree his disposition is described best with one word: unflappable. He doesn’t rattle easily, has an easy way of moving about and answers questions in matter-of-fact style, like he‘s been there, done it.
So, will he allow his first Kentucky Derby get the better of him, is there any anxiety about the pressure cooker he’s about to enter, will it alter the confidence he has in his training program?
That would be no, no and no.
“I’m going to follow his lead,” said the trainer of Big Brown, one of the strong Florida Derby favorites, said in his stable office, Barn 22, at the Palm Meadows training center. “He’ll take us as far as we can go.”
From what he sees thus far, Dutrow believes, as does his jockey, Kent Desormeaux, who forsook a trip to Dubai for next Saturday’s World Cup festivities to ride Big Brown at Gulfstream.
Desormeaux’s agent, Mike Sellito, said it best a few weeks ago when he informed his regular customers and the rest of the racing world: “Where Big Brown goes, Kent Desormeaux will go.”
For Desormeaux on Wednesday, that meant a short trip north on I-95, west on 595, then north on Florida’s Turnpike, about 30 miles and a couple of furlongs by car from the Fort Lauderdale International Airport. He worked his Florida Derby mount five furlongs.
After working Big Brown five-eighths in a minute, like breaking so many sticks--“I told him not too fast, not too slow,”--Desormeaux got off the colt, walked into Dutrow’s office and said: “You know, the other day when he won, I was so high that I was saying crazy things, like he’s the best horse I’ve ever ridden. Now I think he really might be.”
Dutrow recalled Desormeaux’s words before showing the reporter his trainer’s log book, repeating exactly what he told the rider in response to his ‘best horse’ comment. First, some background:
Dutrow and the entire racetrack knew what he was getting even before Big Brown walked into his barn following a private purchase for a major interest in the colt. Big Brown had run exactly once, on the grass at Saratoga. He left the barrier so fast that he blew the first turn but, after settling into comfortable stride, Jeremy Rose pushed the button into the stretch and Big Brown drew off to win by 11¼ lengths.
Not long after the highly successful IEAH group outbid Darley Stable interests for Big Brown, he was turned over to Dutrow, who immediately pointed to the inaugural Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Turf. Plans were scrapped when the colt developed a quarter crack. Back to the drawing board, Dutrow repeated the process this year but before the colt could return to the races he developed another quarter crack on the off side.
Following more rest and repair, Big Brown started shed-walking Feb. 1 until finally, on the 11th, with the crack almost completely healed, Big Brown began jogging two miles a day. Between Feb. 11 and Mar. 1, Big Brown had three workouts, all of the not-too-fast-not-too-slow variety: three furlongs, galloping out a half-mile; a half-mile, out five furlongs, and finally five furlongs, out three-quarters.
“I always thought he was better on turf but when I worked him in company and [older stakes horse] Diamond Stripes couldn’t stay with him, I knew I had a turf horse AND a dirt horse.
“He worked an unbelievable five furlongs--I couldn’t imagine he was anywhere near 100 percent--but was fit and ready to run,” Dutrow said. “I asked the racing secretary to write a race; turf, dirt, it didn’t matter. I told nobody about how I trained him. Then I called Bobby Frankel and said ‘listen to what I did, I must be crazy.’ Bobby‘s a friend and he has a way of [keeping things in perspective].”
A turf race was written for Mar. 5 but rain forced it to be rescheduled to a flat mile on the main track. After stalking a :22 4/5 and :45 1/5 pace, Big Brown easily took the lead approaching headstretch beneath a motionless Desormeaux, was six lengths in front in a twinkling and 12¾ lengths to the good at the end of a 1:35 3/5 mile.
Two starts, two wins, by a combined 24 lengths. “Mike [Ivarone, managing partner of IEAH] called the night he won. I was so excited I couldn’t talk.”
“[Big Brown] is so laid back, unassuming,” said his trainer. “He doesn’t make you pay attention to him. On the track he does what you want and we let him do what he wants. He’s starting to come around, figuring things out. Now he wants to do more but we just try to keep him in hand.”
The Florida Derby is Saturday, Mar. 29. “He’ll work next on the 25th, same thing, another five-eighths.” Dutrow is not allowing himself to become too excited, and has no interest in trying to get to the bottom of Big Brown. “I’m just trying to stay out of his way.”
 

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i agree with you......but dutrow is the juicin meat market type of trainer ala assmussen........not your prototypical classical derby trainer.......but i agree horse is a beast so far
 

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thanks for the derby future odds. i was hoping what his odds were going to be in this saturdays fla derby...maybe even money???
 

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I dont know guys I mean I love having a strong opinion on the Derby that is what makes it fun so good luck with your horse...but....

you guys are caught in the hype hype hype!

imo that horse will not even be favored in the Fla Derby. that will be
Elysium fields...Big Brown will be second choice.

The horse only beat 4 other marginal horses in his last race an allowance race. tru he won by 12 lengths...

Anyway, he is no better than 50/50 to even make the Derby Field so dont waste your money now..

On Derby Day if he goes he will be at least 6-1 likely 10-1

remember unbeated smarty jones was 7-2 barbaro 5.5-1, street smart was 5-1 or so you will get a good price on any Derby starter this year and not risk the horse not showing up.
 
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Anything can happen when you got a 20 horse field. Racing luck factors into the equation almost more than anything.
 

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gyn Im not so sure other than a horrible post position 19 or 20 I think the 8 years Ive been there the best horse dErby day actually won the race, sometimes overcomming some trouble...only Giacomo won on a fluke (Afleet Alex was much the best). some may need a pace scenerio to actually win and I guess that is some luck but at the Derby first Saturday in May the best horse that day seems to win it....
 

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Can't be sold on this horse after that race. I also believe that his trainer is a crook and will not trust him.
 

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The Jury is still out for me on him as a 6 horse field and a bad ride from Prado on his mount and a weak field to boot.We will see what happens come Saturday in the Florida Derby in a bigger field.If he wins then you start talking about him but for now I will take the wait and see approrach.
 

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maybe 5-1 or better if there is a full field...there are some impressive horses Pyro being one of them
 

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i agree on Big Brown. I hammered him last week after that win.. By far the most talented 3yo
 

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I watch and wager a fair amount on the ponies when watching his last race once he made the final turn his head lifted up and he just fired. I have not seen a head bob like that in a while or am I crazy.

Good looking horse but there are a ton of good ones this year and alot of racing left until that wonderful saturday
 

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