A Question for ALL $100 Bettors........

globulous · Apr 19, 2008

For those of you for whom a unit is worth $100...

How much money do you routinely have on the line on any given night?

I'd say if you're an action junkie, then maybe $1000 to $1500??

To me this seems be a very liberal estimate...

So what is it??

How much do you have tied up on average when you're playing for $100 units???

Or how bout this one..

Would you agree or disagree (for a $100 bettor..)

That having $15,000 tied up in a combination of series plays and daily games is absurd
(and probably suggests that one is not playing for $100/unit?)

trytrytry · Apr 20, 2008

depends if you are scalping, playing every overlay you can find with a small edge. playing slow moving books $100 base unit youc an easily have 20-40 wagers a night (especially in full hoops season with all the half time wagers). If you are a spot player only 1-5 plays a day only is typical

globulous · Apr 20, 2008

i'm just talking straight bets.. no scalps, no hedges, nothing special..

i'm just getting tired of guys posting 10, 15, 20 unit plays on heavy favs and maintaining that they play for $100 a game...

there is a guy who posts here, who tonight, had almost $15,000 tied up tonight... $10,000 in series wagers (pending) and almost $5,000 on 2 bets posted for today (to win $2,800)... gimme a fuckin break...

if you routinely make 7-15 unit plays, why are they 7-15 unit plays?

if you routinely have over $2000 at risk every single night, why are the units not $1000 instead of $100...

if i had to answer my own question, i would say that anyone who plays for $100/unit who also routinely has over $3000 on the line every night on 3-5 plays is a liar.

when i was playing $20 a game i would never have 25, 30, 40 units on the line in a night.. it's absurd!

just seems to me like shameless promotion...

"on a roll... +70 units in the last 3 days!"

this forum reeks of it and was the reason i stayed away for over a year, and will likely be the reason i take off again..

trytrytry · Apr 20, 2008

OK I see your point! yes the forum has a ton of total blow hards that make stuff up...for sure yes. but still it is worth handicapping the handicappers and using their info if you can gain an advantage even if you use different units and amounts, in the end that is all that matters.

Piranha · Apr 20, 2008

I rather use terminology like small, medium or strong play. I don't like to use units because first off some people gets offended and accuses you of lying and I don't need the drama. Secondly why do I need to tell you how big I'm playing......it's no one's business and I don't feel the need to brag.

Doug · Apr 20, 2008

problem is definition of "unit".

Many consider a unit to be 1% of bankroll... a reasonable definition,IMO

A guy could have a $10 unit, and a 10k bank, though ! Then he can 10 units be his minimum bet, and go 25,50,even 100 "units".

This is sort of a practice, I'll term "toutflation".

Winning 50 units sounds much better than 5 units, as does 70% instead of 54%.

Doug · Apr 20, 2008

Piranha said:
I rather use terminology like small, medium or strong play. I don't like to use units because first off some people gets offended and accuses you of lying and I don't need the drama. Secondly why do I need to tell you how big I'm playing......it's no one's business and I don't feel the need to brag.

Why not tall,grande, and venti ( or whatever Starbuck's uses) then ?

Only way to track is units, and 1-5 units is reasonable.

nobody needs to know how many dollars a unit equals.

FairWarning · Apr 20, 2008

My favorite, (well next to sharps/squares) is the people who think their $1000 plus+ is more important than someones $50-100 bet.

A) It means you can afford to lose it
B) You are chasing
c) You're an attention whore
D) All of the above

Uno · Apr 20, 2008

if you see someone betting that many "units" you simply have to ignore them from that point on.

no reason to pay attention to someone who clearly has no clue what they are doing.

like someone who lays 4 (supposed) units on the celtics to win the east at the beginning of the playoffs. haha, you should know at that point to ignore that person from here to eternity. or that same person laying (so he says haha) 100 units on a game, winning it, then not being able to settle a $100 debt.

the king of the losers who post crap like that is Gyno.. you just have to ignore them as they contribute very little actually worth while.

typically they are out to improve their "forum reputation" which is more valuable to them than actually winning their wagers.

Piranha · Apr 20, 2008

Doug said:
Only way to track is units, and 1-5 units is reasonable.

nobody needs to know how many dollars a unit equals.

Why do I need for you guys to track it? I keep tabs myself for the year. If you want to know if my picks are worth following or fading than do a search on my posts. I'm not here trying to claim I'm the best. So there is no need for me to post units. I'm also not your regular day in day out guy that will post plays.

Doug · Apr 20, 2008

FairWarning said:
My favorite, (well next to sharps/squares) is the people who think their $1000 plus+ is more important than someones $50-100 bet.

A) It means you can afford to lose it
B) You are chasing
c) You're an attention whore
D) All of the above

It don't mean Jack, IMO ! Units matter, produce a good record with realistic units ( like 1-5), all that matters.

One could be a Charles Barkley betting thousands and losing, or a college kid betting $10-50, and winning nicely.

Doug · Apr 20, 2008

Piranha said:
Why do I need for you guys to track it? I keep tabs myself for the year. If you want to know if my picks are worth following or fading than do a search on my posts. I'm not here trying to claim I'm the best. So there is no need for me to post units. I'm also not your regular day in day out guy that will post plays.

JMO, but a poster w/o some sort of record has little credibility. If you regularly post plays ( I don't know if you do or not), then a record should go with the posted plays.

Bluemyboy · Apr 20, 2008

it is up to you.... if you make the bets the same ammount anyways, what is the difference between making 20 plays a night vs 3 if they are plays you would make anyways.

Some nights I have no wagers, other nights I bet over 50% of my BR. But, I dont feel like it will wipe me out to have alot of action on a given night, as long as they are plays you would make anyways if they were on a different night. Some guy who plays 75% of his BR on avg a night could have much better MM than a guy who just plays about 20%. If you have an edge on a game why let it sit in your account?

Doug · Apr 20, 2008

Dsethi said:
FW - sent you an email, let me know if you got it.

D: I don't know what FW means, though I've seen it used many times... all I get is Freeware by looking it up, is it shorter for FWIW ?

I didn't get it yet ( at my main addy), I rarely check the one in my profile. Raj has the main one, if you've lost it.

Doug · Apr 20, 2008

OK,D

I thought you meant me since it was below my reply.

What the Hell does FW mean in internet slang ?

I often get emails starting with FW

Bluemyboy · Apr 20, 2008

FW = Forward.... as in they are forwarding something they received on to you to check out

SayHeyKid · Apr 20, 2008

my units are $100 and lately ive been betting bases for a nickel a piece. Never go higher than a dime a play. Only have bet more than $500 on a bases play once this year, which coincidentally was today.

I've never met a true gambler who considers himself a $100/unit player and is betting over a dime (10 units) a game regularly.

Doug · Apr 20, 2008

Bluemyboy said:
FW = Forward.... as in they are forwarding something they received on to you to check out

that was my initial thought, but I never was certain about it.

TY

Doug · Apr 20, 2008

pwn3dyo said:
my units are $100 and lately ive been betting bases for a nickel a piece. Never go higher than a dime a play. Only have bet more than $500 on a bases play once this year, which coincidentally was today.

I've never met a true gambler who considers himself a $100/unit player and is betting over a dime (10 units) a game regularly.

I'll easily agree if you mean 10% of bankroll, by 10 units. 5% is very large, 3% is quite aggressive.

One could perhaps go 20% ( even 30%) ( at Matchbook, preferably), on rare occasion (like a couple times a year), if extremely confident in a line move, like some recent stuff with Celtics, but that is rare ! Of course, there is a buyback involved.

TTinCO · Apr 20, 2008

Doug said:
I'll easily agree if you mean 10% of bankroll, by 10 units. 5% is very large, 3% is quite aggressive.

One could perhaps go 20% ( even 30%) ( at Matchbook, preferably), on rare occasion (like a couple times a year), if extremely confident in a line move, like some recent stuff with Celtics, but that is rare ! Of course, there is a buyback involved.

Very true about the 5% & 3%.....different story when you're setting up for a buyback, but that also has it's risks if things don't move your way.