Griffey Pays Off $1500 Debt w/Pennies From Hell

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Griffey Pays Off $1500 Debt w/Pennies From Hell

<!-- foobar -->In order to pay off a debt he owed to a Reds teammate, Ken Griffey Jr. saved & scrounged every penny he could find - and stuffed 60 boxes of the loose change into the guy’s locker.
Hal McCoy of the DAYTON DAILY NEWS has the funny financial report of Griffey giving pitcher Josh Fogg back the $1,500 he owed him in the most inconvenient way possible.
Fogg arrived at his locker Wednesday morning to find the bunches & bunches of boxes, with exactly 2,500 pennies in each container. Upon seeing his debt repaid this way, all Josh could say was, “That’s good, Griff, real funny. Kick me when I’m down.”
But Griffey apparently warned Fogg that he would fulfill is I.O.U. in such an irritating way:
“I’m a man of my word,” said Griffey. “When you owe a man $1,500, you pay him. You can’t do a whole lot with pennies, can you? Just think, each box weighs 16 pounds so Fogg has 60 bowling balls in his locker.”
That would explain why Junior’s always on the disabled list - he keeps hurting himself hauling around such heavy collections of coins. Time to find a Coinstar at the nearest Kroger, Ken.
In the meantime, what’s Fogg going to do with his plethora of pennies?
“I’m going to take them to bullpen and count them because I have a lot time on my hands.”
There’s a lesson to learn in all this - never lend Ken Griffey Jr. any money, unless you own a penny arcade. But with an $8.2 million salary, why does he need a loan in the first place?
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that's a shitty thing to do if he is repaying a debt, if he is paying off a bet, different story and great way to do it.
 

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I'm pretty sure Griffey doesn't need to borrow money.

I wouldn't think so either, but it does say "giving back" the money he owed him, which indicates borrowing as opposed to losing a bed.
 

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I wouldn't think so either, but it does say "giving back" the money he owed him, which indicates borrowing as opposed to losing a bed.

Surely the debt is from losing a bed. It would be unthinkable that a star MLB player needs to borrow $1500 from a teammate, while making 10 million (?) a year. If it was somehow a straight loan, it surely wouldn't be paid off in pennies.
 

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A friend of mine paid off his tuition for a semester with all pennies. He asked some of his friends to help him with the boxes of pennies so we all dressed up in shirt and tie and went to the bank with him. They even had a security guard help us out with the pennies.

When he got to the finance department at the school they said that legally they are only obligated to take a small amount of pennies for payment and the rest would have to be paid in bills.
 

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A friend of mine paid off his tuition for a semester with all pennies. He asked some of his friends to help him with the boxes of pennies so we all dressed up in shirt and tie and went to the bank with him. They even had a security guard help us out with the pennies.

When he got to the finance department at the school they said that legally they are only obligated to take a small amount of pennies for payment and the rest would have to be paid in bills.

That is true, pennies are only legal tender to a certain amount ( like a few dollars). I could find the legal definition if needed.
 

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That is true, pennies are only legal tender to a certain amount ( like a few dollars). I could find the legal definition if needed.

Technically that isn't true, but the end result is the same thing since businesses can limit the types and amounts of currency they accept.
 

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what’s Fogg going to do with his plethora of pennies?

“I’m going to take them to bullpen and count them because I have a lot time on my hands.”

he should throw them at JR :toast:
 

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I am sure this was a bet he lost.

ANyways,I think everyone should pay the IRS in pennies.

If you pay tolls in pennies usually they wave you through - I have a cabbie friend who tells me he pays every 10th toll. I have no car, so I haven o idea...
 

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Technically that isn't true, but the end result is the same thing since businesses can limit the types and amounts of currency they accept.

Pretty much a practical limit of about a few dollars. I know you are a lawyer, and like to win any arguement by trade.

There have been obscure definitions of this, but I see no point in bringing up something from 1879, if I could even find it.

You can't pay your speeding ticket or the IRS in pennies.

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[FONT=Trebuchet MS,Bookman Old Style,Arial][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS,Bookman Old Style,Arial]Claim: U.S. law specifies that a creditor does not have to accept more than 100 pennies towards the payment of a debt or obligation.

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Origins: This is one of the pieces of
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misinformation that makes me wish web sites like this one had been around when I was a kid so I have could pointed my father toward it and told him to shut up already. I can't recall how many times he solemnly intoned that "Pennies are not legal tender in quantities greater than 100" and therefore merchants were "legally" allowed to refuse any offer of payment that included more than one hundred one-cent coins (and, presumably, could not "legally" refuse payment offered in any other form of legal tender). As with so many other things he was dead wrong (and I knew it even then), but I had no way of proving him wrong. I can now, though.

Title 31 (Money and Finance), Subtitle IV (Money), <nobr>Chapter 51</nobr> (Coins and Currency), <nobr>Subchapter I</nobr> (Monetary System), <nobr>Section 5103</nobr> (Legal Tender) of the United States Code states:
United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues. Foreign gold or silver coins are not legal tender for debts.
What this statute means, in the words of the United States Treasury, is that "[A]ll United States <nobr>money . . .</nobr> is a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal law mandating that a person or organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or <table align="left" border="0" cellpadding="8"><tbody><tr><td> <script type="text/javascript"> <!-- var casaleD=new Date();var casaleR=(casaleD.getTime()%8673806982)+Math.random(); var casaleUU=escape(window.location.href); var casaleHost='.casalemedia.com/'; var casaleWH='" width="300" height="250" '; var casaleFR='marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"'; casaleFR += 'allowtransparency="true">'; document.write('<ifr'+'ame src="http://as'+casaleHost+'s?s=89342&u='+casaleUU); document.write('&f=4&id='+casaleR+casaleWH+casaleFR+'<a hr'+'ef="http://c'); document.write(casaleHost+'c?s=89342&f=4&id='+casaleR+'" target="_blank">'); document.write('<i'+'mg src="http://as'+casaleHost+'s?s=89342&u='+casaleUU); document.write('&f=4&id='+casaleR+'&if=0'+casaleWH+'border="0"><\/a>'); document.write('<\/ifr'+'ame>'); //--> </script><iframe src="http://as.casalemedia.com/s?s=89342&u=http%3A//www.snopes.com/business/money/pennies.asp&f=4&id=5338318315.443397" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" allowtransparency="true" frameborder="0" height="250" scrolling="no" width="300"><a href="http://c.casalemedia.com/c?s=89342&amp;f=4&amp;id=5338318315.443397" target="_blank"><img src="http://as.casalemedia.com/s?s=89342&amp;u=http%3A//www.snopes.com/business/money/pennies.asp&amp;f=4&amp;id=5338318315.443397&amp;if=0" width="300" height="250" border="0"></a></iframe> <noscript> <iframe src="http://as.casalemedia.com/s?s=89342&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsnopes.com&f=4&id=1" width="300" height="250" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true"> </iframe> </noscript> </td></tr></tbody></table> services."

That's it. All this means is that the Federal Reserve System must honor <nobr>U.S. currency</nobr> and coins, not necessarily anyone else. <nobr>U.S. currency</nobr> and coins can be used for making payments, but a debtor does not have to pay in legal tender, nor does a creditor have to accept legal tender. If a shoemaker wants to sell his products for <nobr>8000 jelly</nobr> beans per pair, he's entitled to do so; the buyer cannot demand that he accept the equivalent value in legal tender instead. However, legal tender is the default method of payment assumed in contractual agreements involving payments for goods or services unless otherwise specified. So, for example, if an automobile dealer signs a contract agreeing to sell you a car for $8,000, but when you begin making monthly payments he rejects them and insists he wants to be paid in gold instead, you can go to court and have your debt discharged on the grounds that valid payment was offered and refused.

Up until the late 19th century, pennies and nickels weren't legal tender at all. The Coinage Acts of 1873 and 1879 made them legal tender for debts up to <nobr>25 cents</nobr> only, while the other fractional coins (dimes, quarters, and half dollars) were legal tender for amounts up to $10. This remained the law until the Coinage Act of 1965 specified that all U.S. coins are legal tender in any amount. However, even in cases where legal tender has been agreed to as a form of payment, private businesses are still free to specify which forms of legal tender they will accept. If a restaurant doesn't want to take any currency larger than $20 bills, or they don't want to take pennies at all, or they want to be paid in nothing but dimes, they're entitled to do so (but, as mentioned earlier, they should specify their payment policies before entering into transactions with buyers). Businesses are free to accept or reject pennies as they see fit; no law specifies that pennies cease to be considered legal tender when proffered in quantities over a particular amount.

Additional information: <table cellspacing="10"><tbody><tr> <td> </td> <td>[FONT=Bookman Old Style,Arial]Designation of legal tender
(United States Code, Title 31)
[/FONT]</td> </tr></tbody></table> <table cellspacing="10"><tbody><tr> <td> </td> <td>[FONT=Bookman Old Style,Arial]What is legal tender?
(United States Treasury FAQ)
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