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Last updated: May 21st, 2008 01:21 AM (PDT)

Before Charles Barkley developed a love for two hobbies that don’t seem to love him back – golfing and gambling – he was a camera-friendly superstar who spiked television ratings during the NBA playoffs.
On June 5, 1993, Barkley’s Phoenix Suns faced the Seattle SuperSonics in Game 7 of the Western Conference finals.

The Suns were on their home court, an overwhelming advantage – 75 percent of home teams win the seventh game of an NBA playoff series – and, all things being equal, figured to prevail in the contest that would deliver the victors to the NBA Finals against Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls.

Except all things weren’t equal.

The Suns attempted 64 free throws, converting a playoff-record 57 of them. In the third quarter alone, Phoenix attempted a ridiculous 26 free throws, or only 10 fewer than the Sonics attempted the entire game.

The Suns won, of course, and all those basketball fans in America who weren’t loyal to the Sonics, or concerned about fair play and integrity, got the showdown they craved: Air Jordan versus Sir Charles.

More recently, the 2002 Sacramento Kings endured a crash course in the nuances of representing a small media market during the NBA playoffs. Threatening to clinch their Western Conference finals series against the Lakers in six games, the Kings watched their opponents march to the line 27 times during the fourth quarter.

Meanwhile, when Kobe Bryant threw an elbow that drew the blood of Kings guard Mike Bibby, the sound of a whistle was conspicuously absent. No fatality, no foul.

“The Kings and Lakers didn’t decide this series would be extended,” Washington Post columnist Michael Wilbon wrote from press row. “Three referees did.”

Or were the three referees merely following orders to prevent a nightmare NBA Finals matchup between Sacramento and the New Jersey Nets? That never happened; Los Angeles, saved by the whistle in Game 6, went on to cut down the Nets, proving it possible to be recognized as the best team in the world while suspecting it was the second-best team in California.

I’d sort of forgotten about the 1993 officiating travesty in Phoenix – and its 2002 reprise in Los Angeles – until Tuesday, when news broke that defrocked official Tim Donaghy has been singing to prosecutors. Donaghy, whose gambling addiction almost certainly affected both the point spreads and outcomes of several NBA games, insists he’s not the lone ranger in the scandal.

According to a letter written to U.S. District Court in New York by Donaghy’s attorney, John F. Lauro, Donaghy told prosecutors about officials supplying “confidential information” to an unidentified coach.

Furthermore, Lauro alleged that the NBA pressured the FBI to shut down its investigation of gambling’s pervasiveness within the league “to avoid the disclosure of information unrelated to Tim’s conduct.”

Commissioner David Stern, speaking on Tuesday to reporters in New Jersey before the annual ping-pong ball lottery determining the draft order of the NBA’s Have-Nots, dismissed all talk of his league putting pressure on the government to curtail its investigation.

“Not accurate,” Stern said. “Untruthful.”

Joel Litvin, who oversees basketball operations for the NBA, was more expansive in a written rebuttal to Lauro’s letter. He called Donaghy’s revelations an “assortment of lies, unfounded allegations and facts that have been previously acknowledged.

“The letter,” Litvin continued, “is the desperate act of a convicted felon who is hoping to avoid prison time.”

Maybe so. Maybe Donaghy is pointing fingers in exchange for some mercy at his sentencing, scheduled in July.

But I don’t trust the NBA, either. I don’t trust the owners, and I don’t trust the commissioner.

That fiasco officially called a “Board of Governors meeting” last month underscored Stern’s ability to fib with a straight face.

Those incriminating e-mail messages Sonics owner Clay Bennett exchanged with his co-investors in Oklahoma City? They were published; they made headlines, and Stern insisted he wasn’t familiar with them.

Not accurate. Untruthful.

Once upon a time, when conspiracy theories about the NBA were hoisted like so many volleyballs on the Santa Monica beach, I used to shrug it all off as nonsense.

C’mon, I’d tell skeptical friends, a brilliant lawyer occupying the most high-profile office of a major North American sports league is not going to fix the lottery that, say, assured that the talents of Georgetown center Patrick Ewing would be spent reviving a struggling New York Knicks franchise in 1985.

Nor is Stern going to tell Michael Jordan to get lost for a few years, until the fog hovering over Jordan’s gambling issues clears.

Now I’m not sure what to think, except this: A commissioner unwilling to engage in straight talk about a simple e-mail is a commissioner that has lost any claim to credibility.

Originally published: May 21st, 2008 01:21 AM (PDT)
 

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Lakers have gotten every call this month, but tonights game was disgusting.
 

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The NBA is extremely suspicious to say the very least. It has now come out Donaghy was involved in fixing the spurs/suns game 3 last year. Eddie Rush was obviously in on it too if you examined the film. On top of that - Amare getting suspended - all too suspicious.

Also, the Miami/Dallas finals last year was blatantly poorly officated. Wade got every call literally - even when the defenders literally didn't make any contact at all.

I didn't see most of this game, as i was watching my baseball action, but not surprised to hear it was poorly officated.
 

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Oh come on guys. You just hate the league. The Lakers earned all those FTs against the Kings because they were more aggressive...


But seriously, has anything ever been more obvious? The NBA hasn't been a sport of true athletic competition for a long time.

The NBA sucks. It's funny, but reading about the FT disparity in the 2002 Lakers/Kings game 6 brings back some strong memories. I think that was my breaking point when I lost all emotional attatchment to the NBA and any player or team. No longer a fan. It was a similar feeling to one I had when I was in the 4th (?) grade and came to the realization (or accepted) the WWF was fake and lost all interest.

Lakers vs. Boston in the Finals. Those teams only have to come close to winning 4 games. Stern and the refs will do the rest.
 

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sterns lies have become painfully transparent. He will do or say anything to protect his fantasy version of the NBA.
 

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Lakers have gotten every call this month, but tonights game was disgusting.

what calls? was it the officials that shot 5 of 23 during one stretch in the 3rd and 4th quarters? or was it that bowen couldn't stop the best player in the world?
 

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Lakers vs Boston = $$$$$$$$ for the NBA. Take a look at 97% of the players and tell me with a straight face they couldn't fix a game. Heres a question for you guys. Who pays for these players entourage to hang out with them every night?? How do these thugs afford to hang around and live the lifestyle with these players? I know a few that bet with my local and they have not lost ever. Funny thing is this one guy can't even spell the teams names but can pick winner every few nights.
 

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Well if we know this tendancy going in, then you shouldn't complain, just bang the Big Market team every time..
 

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olddirtyku, like i said, not really worth wasting the time. these guys will continue to come up with things.

i, like many grow tired of the constant whining over loss bets and conspiracy theories that a 3rd grader would come up with, but this is what happens when you don't have an intelligence test as a requirement to post on this forum.

let them have there say and move on. this thread is irrelevant anyways.

guys like oatmealpancakes will just continue to beat and beat and beat this issue because of there dislike of the league. you can't really do anything with those people except just ignore them, they have made up there mind.
 

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olddirtyku, like i said, not really worth wasting the time. these guys will continue to come up with things.

i, like many grow tired of the constant whining over loss bets and conspiracy theories that a 3rd grader would come up with, but this is what happens when you don't have an intelligence test as a requirement to post on this forum.

let them have there say and move on. this thread is irrelevant anyways.

guys like oatmealpancakes will just continue to beat and beat and beat this issue because of there dislike of the league. you can't really do anything with those people except just ignore them, they have made up there mind.
THEIR mind.....possessive............guy in RR put me in charge of there their and they're:dancefool
 

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olddirtyku, like i said, not really worth wasting the time. these guys will continue to come up with things.

i, like many grow tired of the constant whining over loss bets and conspiracy theories that a 3rd grader would come up with, but this is what happens when you don't have an intelligence test as a requirement to post on this forum.

let them have there say and move on. this thread is irrelevant anyways.

guys like oatmealpancakes will just continue to beat and beat and beat this issue because of there dislike of the league. you can't really do anything with those people except just ignore them, they have made up there mind.

Intelligence test to post. That's rich. I guess it takes a (self-proclaimed) higher intelligence to not respond to points made in posts and to just generalize and dismiss, all the while providing evidence you're a slappy that would probably still love the NBA even if Stern admitted to fixed/weighted games in order to maximize the NBA dollar.

It's pretty clear that I like basketball and want to enjoy the NBA but the highly suspicious officiating (and hello, confessed crooked ref) makes it impossible to do so. You'd have to be a slappy fan not to admit this and you'd have to be pretty stupid not to be atleast suspicous...

gtc - you must really be bothered by posts questioning the legitmacy of the NBA. If so, sorry. I'm just a still-hurting, former-fan that's venting out of frustration.
 

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not bothered so much as annoyed. i know theres people that dont like the league, which is fine. it gets old though when people come up with new and inventive ways to reiterate a statement they have made many times about a personal dislike of the league.
 

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If you dont believe stern is dirty. The bulls won the draft. With a kid name rose that wears number 23, that is from chicago. Stern loves to keep different stories going
 

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Lakers vs Boston = $$$$$$$$ for the NBA. Take a look at 97% of the players and tell me with a straight face they couldn't fix a game. Heres a question for you guys. Who pays for these players entourage to hang out with them every night?? How do these thugs afford to hang around and live the lifestyle with these players? I know a few that bet with my local and they have not lost ever. Funny thing is this one guy can't even spell the teams names but can pick winner every few nights.

I don't think games are fixed between teams. There is so much subjectivity in basketball officiating it's seemingly pretty easy to improve one teams chances over another with biased officiating.
 

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not bothered so much as annoyed. i know theres people that dont like the league, which is fine. it gets old though when people come up with new and inventive ways to reiterate a statement they have made many times about a personal dislike of the league.


So, you think the NBA is totally legit?

Or do you recognizie some issues with the NBA, say biased officiating to create the best money matchup, pub the best player(s), etc., which causes some concern re: the legitimacy of the league but just love it anyway?

Curious as what your opinion is of the NBA: Legit and love it? Little shady but love it? Pretty much basketball WWE but love it?
 

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I dont think the nba is all fake. And I have been with you on the most part gtc that the nba isnt as bad as some people want everybody to believe. But If you really think stern dont do no shady stuff to help his league make money you are being blind.
 

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