NBA says foul should have been called at the end of Spurs/Lakers Game 4

JakeT. · May 29, 2008

So much for those saying it wasn't a foul... it obviously was. The Spurs didn't really deserve to be in that spot, but it was definitely a foul.

Thu May 29, 3:32 AM ET
 NEW YORK - The NBA acknowledged Wednesday that a foul should have been called on the final possession of Game 4 in the Western Conference finals, which would have given the San Antonio Spurs a chance to even the series.

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Trailing 93-91 on Tuesday night, the Spurs inbounded the ball with 2.1 seconds left to Brent Barry, who was bumped by Los Angeles Lakers guard Derek Fisher on the floor. No foul was called, and Barry missed badly on a 3-pointer before time expired.

Spurs players and coach Gregg Popovich said a foul should not have been called, but the NBA disagreed with them after reviewing the play.
"With the benefit of instant replay, it appears a foul should have been called," NBA spokesman Tim Frank said.

Had that happened, Barry would have gone to the line for two free throws and a chance to tie the game. Instead, the defending champion Spurs trail the series 3-1 and face elimination Thursday in Los Angeles.

RobFunk · May 29, 2008

Barry said it was a good no call, but I think he is just being nice. He also said that wasnt the play they wanted to run.

Seymour · May 29, 2008

It's no big deal - it had no effect on the game anyways - even if called Barry would have missed the FT's - there's no difference between 2-2 and 3-1 - LA led all game so it's only fair they win the game too

Seymour · May 29, 2008

RobFunk said:
Barry said it was a good no call, but I think he is just being nice. He also said that wasnt the play they wanted to run.

I wonder why he threw his arms up in disgust

RobFunk · May 29, 2008

Seymour said:
I wonder why he threw his arms up in disgust

I dont know, ask him.

royboy_3831 · May 29, 2008

did they also admit fisher's shot hit the rim with 6 secs left and the fisher foul should've never taken place?

Seymour · May 29, 2008

royboy_3831 said:
did they also admit fisher's shot hit the rim with 6 secs left and the fisher foul should've never taken place?

You know - to see that ball hit the rim you need instant replay - now, I think the ball hit the rim but I cannot say with absolute certainty that it hit the rim - the foul was crystal clear - you saw, I saw, Barry saw it and Phil Jackson saw (and he smiled too) - and most importantly - Crawford saw it and DELIBERATELY did not see it - I said before the series there were two X factors - Odom and the officiating - Odom is queer like I always thought and I feared the officials would sway the series - the teams are even - we can't play through one or two games that were decided the wrong way

AlwayzRight · May 29, 2008

Did they admit Duncans 6 step dunk from the 3 point line was traveling?

TheWolf · May 29, 2008

These apologies never bring back my lost money.

royboy_3831 · May 29, 2008

Seymour said:
You know - to see that ball hit the rim you need instant replay - now, I think the ball hit the rim but I cannot say with absolute certainty that it hit the rim - the foul was crystal clear - you saw, I saw, Barry saw it and Phil Jackson saw (and he smiled too) - and most importantly - Crawford saw it and DELIBERATELY did not see it - I said before the series there were two X factors - Odom and the officiating - Odom is queer like I always thought and I feared the officials would sway the series - the teams are even - we can't play through one or two games that were decided the wrong way

it was definitely a foul, not arguing that at all... but i also thought the ball hitting the rim was an easy call if they're paying attention like they should be.

honestly, just think this laker team is a little more hungry and a slightly better team. said la in 5 before the series started, and would be suprised if kobe doesn't close it out tonight, they sure as hell don't wanna see a game 7 against the champs.

JakeT. · May 29, 2008

Any chance the ref crew "misses" a few fouls on the Spurs to make up for the non call?

gtc08 · May 29, 2008

the nba is quick moving. sometimes its hard to see stuff like that. look at all the problems baseball is having with home run calls. and baseballs slow

fhmesq44 · May 29, 2008

gtc08 said:
the nba is quick moving. sometimes its hard to see stuff like that. look at all the problems baseball is having with home run calls. and baseballs slow

Come on, umps are 200+ feet away from the outfield fence and a 3" sphere is travelling at speeds well in excess of Derrick Fisher or Brent Barry. you also had three sets of eyes on two players.

GTC, you can defend the NBA all you want and others can say the play never should have happened, but it did happen and that is unquestionably a blown call that, had it been called correctly, would have likely resulted in a different winner of the game.

The institutional acceptance of different application of rules for different players and different times of games at all levels (as evidenced by Barry's comments) is absurd. Combine that with generally poor officiating and you have a league that is quickly becoming a farce if it isn't already one.

gtc08 · May 29, 2008

fhmesg44, did you see ray allen's poke to richard hamilton's eye last night. that was quick and deceptive and everybody missed it. we aint robots man, you miss things sometimes because its hard to keep up.

Seymour · May 29, 2008

jakethompson said:
Any chance the ref crew "misses" a few fouls on the Spurs to make up for the non call?

Of course - very early in the game - in the waning minutes of a tight game - under no circumstances - the reverse will happen

fhmesq44 · May 29, 2008

gtc08 said:
fhmesg44, did you see ray allen's poke to richard hamilton's eye last night. that was quick and deceptive and everybody missed it. we aint robots man, you miss things sometimes because its hard to keep up.

No, I didn't watch the game (or the Lakers game for that matter, I only saw the last play on replay). I'm not saying every call should be accurate, i can generally accept errors in calls or missed calls. That isn't my inherent problem with the NBA, although I do think the level of officiating is horribly poor, much worse than in any other league. I don't, however, know how much of that is incompetence and how much of it is the institutional subjectivity and abritrary application of the league's rules. It is the latter that is my inherent problem with the NBA.

gtc08 · May 29, 2008

where were you when bonds was getting walks time after time because the umps wideneded the strike zone or whenever randy moss doesnt catch a pass. every time he raises his hands he gets pass interference and your saying the nba is the only league that gives certain players preferential treatment. comical.

rayray · May 29, 2008

i would imagine that the penalty for bitching at the reffs is pretty steep during the playoffs. no wonder all the s.a. players didnt have much to say about the shitty no calls. fines out the ass would have been put down.

royboy_3831 · May 29, 2008

fhmesq44 said:
Come on, umps are 200+ feet away from the outfield fence and a 3" sphere is travelling at speeds well in excess of Derrick Fisher or Brent Barry. you also had three sets of eyes on two players.

GTC, you can defend the NBA all you want and others can say the play never should have happened, but it did happen and that is unquestionably a blown call that, had it been called correctly, would have likely resulted in a different winner of the game.

The institutional acceptance of different application of rules for different players and different times of games at all levels (as evidenced by Barry's comments) is absurd. Combine that with generally poor officiating and you have a league that is quickly becoming a farce if it isn't already one.

it shouldn't have happened, as a result of another blown call against the other team... basically it was shit officiating that evened out in the end.

valdosta · May 29, 2008

For those making excuses for the officials missing the Fisher call don't bother. Van Gundy saw it from where he was at, you are going to tell me that none of the officials should have gotten that call correct? Seriously, it was a foul but big deal. there were plenty of blown calls that went the other way to.

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