then you need to take control and get loose. They wont play back at you unless they have a premium hand.
yeah....i'm a fricking fagball until I make in the money (IF)....
here is a prime example.
25/50....on the button....folds and one caller in cutoff....holding 44 I call....sb completes, bb is huge chip leader...raises to 200.....cutoff calls....I call, sb calls....
flop 22T....bb bets out 600.....fold fold fold
here is a prime example.
25/50....on the button....folds and one caller in cutoff....holding 44 I call....sb completes, bb is huge chip leader...raises to 200.....cutoff calls....I call, sb calls....
flop 22T....bb bets out 600.....fold fold fold
i had some chip leaders behind me.....someone tell me I could've lost if i called.....
PokerStars Game #17880767577: Tournament #90683734, $2000+$100 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/06/03 - 01:54:38 (ET)
Table '90683734 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Glorfindel (2470 in chips)
Seat 2: jeff710 (1470 in chips)
Seat 3: woosewoo (1957 in chips)
Seat 4: shdw01 (3871 in chips)
Seat 6: rustyowens (6945 in chips)
Seat 7: EyeGougerMan (4087 in chips)
Seat 8: alf21399 (3400 in chips)
Seat 9: CinzMan (2800 in chips)
alf21399: posts small blind 100
CinzMan: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shdw01 [9d 9s]
Glorfindel: folds
jeff710: raises 1270 to 1470 and is all-in
woosewoo: folds
shdw01: folds
rustyowens: folds
EyeGougerMan: folds
alf21399: folds
CinzMan: folds
Uncalled bet (1270) returned to jeff710
jeff710 collected 500 from pot
jeff710: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 500 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Glorfindel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: jeff710 collected (500)
Seat 3: woosewoo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: shdw01 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: rustyowens folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: EyeGougerMan (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: alf21399 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: CinzMan (big blind) folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #17880767577: Tournament #90683734, $2000+$100 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/06/03 - 01:54:38 (ET)
Table '90683734 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Glorfindel (2470 in chips)
Seat 2: jeff710 (1470 in chips)
Seat 3: woosewoo (1957 in chips)
Seat 4: shdw01 (3871 in chips)
Seat 6: rustyowens (6945 in chips)
Seat 7: EyeGougerMan (4087 in chips)
Seat 8: alf21399 (3400 in chips)
Seat 9: CinzMan (2800 in chips)
alf21399: posts small blind 100
CinzMan: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shdw01 [9d 9s]
Glorfindel: folds
jeff710: raises 1270 to 1470 and is all-in
woosewoo: folds
shdw01: folds
rustyowens: folds
EyeGougerMan: folds
alf21399: folds
CinzMan: folds
Uncalled bet (1270) returned to jeff710
jeff710 collected 500 from pot
jeff710: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 500 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Glorfindel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: jeff710 collected (500)
Seat 3: woosewoo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: shdw01 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: rustyowens folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: EyeGougerMan (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: alf21399 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: CinzMan (big blind) folded before Flop
previous hand eyegougerman shows KK to an uncalled raise...hence my "wow"
PokerStars Game #17880827898: Tournament #90683734, $2000+$100 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/06/03 - 01:59:52 (ET)
Table '90683734 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Glorfindel (3055 in chips)
Seat 2: jeff710 (1470 in chips)
Seat 3: woosewoo (1957 in chips)
Seat 4: shdw01 (3371 in chips)
Seat 6: rustyowens (7445 in chips)
Seat 7: EyeGougerMan (4202 in chips)
Seat 8: alf21399 (3000 in chips)
Seat 9: CinzMan (2500 in chips)
shdw01: posts small blind 100
rustyowens: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shdw01 [Ah Kh]
shdw01 said, "wow"
EyeGougerMan: raises 311 to 511
alf21399: folds
CinzMan: folds
Glorfindel: folds
jeff710: folds
woosewoo: folds
shdw01: folds
rustyowens: folds
Uncalled bet (311) returned to EyeGougerMan
EyeGougerMan collected 500 from pot
EyeGougerMan: shows [Ad Ac] (a pair of Aces)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 500 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Glorfindel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: jeff710 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: woosewoo (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: shdw01 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: rustyowens (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: EyeGougerMan collected (500)
Seat 8: alf21399 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: CinzMan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
PokerStars Game #17880827898: Tournament #90683734, $2000+$100 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/06/03 - 01:59:52 (ET)
Table '90683734 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Glorfindel (3055 in chips)
Seat 2: jeff710 (1470 in chips)
Seat 3: woosewoo (1957 in chips)
Seat 4: shdw01 (3371 in chips)
Seat 6: rustyowens (7445 in chips)
Seat 7: EyeGougerMan (4202 in chips)
Seat 8: alf21399 (3000 in chips)
Seat 9: CinzMan (2500 in chips)
shdw01: posts small blind 100
rustyowens: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shdw01 [Ah Kh]
shdw01 said, "wow"
EyeGougerMan: raises 311 to 511
alf21399: folds
CinzMan: folds
Glorfindel: folds
jeff710: folds
woosewoo: folds
shdw01: folds
rustyowens: folds
Uncalled bet (311) returned to EyeGougerMan
EyeGougerMan collected 500 from pot
EyeGougerMan: shows [Ad Ac] (a pair of Aces)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 500 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Glorfindel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: jeff710 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: woosewoo (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: shdw01 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: rustyowens (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: EyeGougerMan collected (500)
Seat 8: alf21399 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: CinzMan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
PokerStars Game #17881121313: Tournament #90683734, $2000+$100 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2008/06/03 - 02:26:35 (ET)
Table '90683734 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: woosewoo (9808 in chips)
Seat 4: shdw01 (1571 in chips)
Seat 6: rustyowens (12520 in chips)
Seat 7: EyeGougerMan (3101 in chips)
woosewoo: posts the ante 25
shdw01: posts the ante 25
rustyowens: posts the ante 25
EyeGougerMan: posts the ante 25
shdw01: posts small blind 200
rustyowens: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shdw01 [Qs Qh]
EyeGougerMan: folds
woosewoo: folds
shdw01: raises 1146 to 1546 and is all-in
rustyowens: calls 1146
*** FLOP *** [8s 6s 3d]
*** TURN *** [8s 6s 3d] [Jh]
*** RIVER *** [8s 6s 3d Jh] [Ad]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
shdw01: shows [Qs Qh] (a pair of Queens)
rustyowens: shows [Jc Ac] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
rustyowens collected 3192 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3192 | Rake 0
Board [8s 6s 3d Jh Ad]
Seat 3: woosewoo (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: shdw01 (small blind) showed [Qs Qh] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 6: rustyowens (big blind) showed [Jc Ac] and won (3192) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 7: EyeGougerMan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Table '90683734 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: woosewoo (9808 in chips)
Seat 4: shdw01 (1571 in chips)
Seat 6: rustyowens (12520 in chips)
Seat 7: EyeGougerMan (3101 in chips)
woosewoo: posts the ante 25
shdw01: posts the ante 25
rustyowens: posts the ante 25
EyeGougerMan: posts the ante 25
shdw01: posts small blind 200
rustyowens: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shdw01 [Qs Qh]
EyeGougerMan: folds
woosewoo: folds
shdw01: raises 1146 to 1546 and is all-in
rustyowens: calls 1146
*** FLOP *** [8s 6s 3d]
*** TURN *** [8s 6s 3d] [Jh]
*** RIVER *** [8s 6s 3d Jh] [Ad]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
shdw01: shows [Qs Qh] (a pair of Queens)
rustyowens: shows [Jc Ac] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
rustyowens collected 3192 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3192 | Rake 0
Board [8s 6s 3d Jh Ad]
Seat 3: woosewoo (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: shdw01 (small blind) showed [Qs Qh] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 6: rustyowens (big blind) showed [Jc Ac] and won (3192) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 7: EyeGougerMan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
You're giving these players in Step 6's way too much credit for having a hand. How can you possibly fold AK Suited in this spot to a raise to 500 with blinds at 100/200? What hand are you waiting for exactly? If your goal is to just make 6th or 5th place money then fine fold away. But if you expect to win a WSOP seat don't play scared poker.
I agree....bad fold....should've re-raised.
the hand w/ the 99 I didn't want to jeapordize most of my chips on a coinflip (I imagine at best I have a coinflip).
The AKs I just had a really bad feeling....i know it is stupid to play poker on feel (esp since I'm playing with scared money). But he did the same raise the previous hand UTG+1 and showed KK. I figured UTG with the same raise very next hand is suicide unless he has something good. In my mind he had a pocket pair (coinflip if QQ and under, fucked if AA or KK) or AK/AQ....the only hand I'm really beating is AQ....everything else is coinflip or death. I showed a buddy and he said I'm retarded for folding that.....stupid fold...but it ended up being a $1,000 fold!
Had my QQ held up, I wanna believe I would've had a good chance at 3rd....then a little luck would've put me back in contention....I play the steps like a *** as proved
The 99 hand I agree with cause in all likelihood you're right (Coin Flip). Sure there's an outside chance you might be in great against someone pushing with a lower PP but with your chipstack at that point you still had plenty of time to avoid a flip. Anyways best of luck with future ones.:toast:
yeah....i guess the guy was shortstack and his range opens up a bit.
I remember in the back of my head the two fears I had was:
1) Shit, if I lose this, I'm shortstack and 2 away from the money
2) I'm pretty early, what if someone else has a hand
LOL at the low limit tourney guy playing $2,100 buyins....
for me, level's 1 and 2 are the grind.....from level 3 and up, all you need is 5th place (I think even 6th on level 5) to stay in the circle of levels 3-5.
I've gotten rivered quite a few times (In fact, see above as I exit level 6) but keep on grinding...eventually you win a few and move up to the next level (or the other guy dominates and you can ride his coattails)....just gotta do that 2 or 3 times and you are in level 6.
Not too bad considering there is no additional costs to keep trying (as long as you dont end up 6th-9th)
