Uwin Records - Last Month

ArizonaBound · Jun 16, 2008

I have tracked the youwin records to prove or disprove the general theory that you can't win by consistently laying chalk in MLB. I have to admit I was very surprised how well the first few weeks went. Unfortunately you can only go to the well so much with favs and produce 2 out of 3 winners. Last week was catch up week for the dogs. Here is what I have from May 15 through June 15:

133 wins
95 losses
58.3% win percentage
+$660 (would have cost over $3000 to purchase the 133 winners)

Average lay -133.
Adjusted record:
123 wins
105 losses
53.9% win Percentage

take if for what it is worth.

billhill999 · Jun 16, 2008

Arizona Bound said:
Average lay -133.
Adjusted record:
123 wins
105 losses
53.9% win Percentage

take if for what it is worth.

105 (losses) x 133 (average lay) = 13,965 in losses
123 (wins) x 100 (return on 1 unit wager) = 12,300 in wins

Net loss of 1,665

B.S.S. · Jun 16, 2008

i hope nobody played every single play/.
personally played two guys and came up pretty big.

i dont think this traking is necessary.

cut-paste-hero · Jun 16, 2008

Arizona Bound said:
I have tracked the youwin records to prove or disprove the general theory that you can't win by consistently laying chalk in MLB. I have to admit I was very surprised how well the first few weeks went. Unfortunately you can only go to the well so much with favs and produce 2 out of 3 winners. Last week was catch up week for the dogs. Here is what I have from May 15 through June 15:

133 wins
95 losses
58.3% win percentage
+$660 (would have cost over $3000 to purchase the 133 winners)

Average lay -133.
Adjusted record:
123 wins
105 losses
53.9% win Percentage

take if for what it is worth.

Good work and a eye opener.

Keep up the good work. %^_

Hope you continue to track these!

ArizonaBound · Jun 16, 2008

billhill999 said:
105 (losses) x 133 (average lay) = 13,965 in losses
123 (wins) x 100 (return on 1 unit wager) = 12,300 in wins

Net loss of 1,665

This is not correct. The adjusted record is based on -110 not -133. I only do this so people can see what the "real record" is. Under normal circumstances 58% is very good, but not when your lay is -133. At -133 you need to hit at 57% to break even. So the last month you are barely above even if tailing these plays blindly and not paying anything for them.

ArizonaBound · Jun 16, 2008

B.S.S. said:
i hope nobody played every single play/.
personally played two guys and came up pretty big.

i dont think this traking is necessary.

Why do you think it is not necessary? This has been the most requested and most followed paid service the last month, without question. You should know what you are paying for and what the results are for the paid service.
My goal, as stated in the intial post, was to prove or disprove the theory of playing favs on a consistent basis could be profitable. I gave pats on the back when they started out hitting 65% and now and I pointing out that they are at 58%.
The reason to track this is to educate people on what they are investing in.
Now that you know what is being tracked you can choose not to open the thread again if you so wish.
I just hate to see people led to slaughter like sheep without knowing the facts. Uwin is not the holy grail of capping and will continue to return mediocre results if they continue to lay -133 the rest of the baseball season. Many people have tried to warn, but people will not listen to opinions. They can choose to ignore the facts, but at least they were armed with the ACTUAL information and not just opinions.
Take it or leave it, your choice.

AZ

STRIKEKING · Jun 16, 2008

No disrespect intended bro, but i agree with BSS..This isn't really necessary to continuously be obsessed with proving a point..Let it go..We all know that the "You Win Crew" are gonna post 5-7 fav's a day and if the dogs bark for the day then they get killed..You have to weigh the plays out and determine if the play looks good or if their just a scam and have 5 or 6 "handicappers" that all list different favorites under their pix?? In the long run you can't win money playin their pix in the bases..It really hit home to me Sat when someone list of their plays and I was thinkin hell they would have to hit like 4 out of 6 or so to even make money!! That's crazy..Anyway, no reason to continue to prove your point, we get it!!

SK

B.S.S. · Jun 16, 2008

its a waste of time.
whats the difference between tracking 6 guys from the same site or tracking the whole service thread.. its gonna be a 50% deal.
anybody with half a brain should play their own games or follow one or 2 great handicappers.
trust me, the most success you can have is by minimizing the amount of plays you wager on.. thats why the one play a day capper is better off.
in terms of baseball, if your betting a dime a day with a capper whos hitting 66-70% on a favorite, your gonna be up close to 50k by the end of the season.

ArizonaBound · Jun 16, 2008

Guys, I am not trying to piss on your parade, trust me, I am not. Don't you think I would love to benefit as well from a group of cappers that could win consistently. I love money just like the next person. I am just sharing the facts. Yes there are 3 cappers with great records that produced consistent winners over this one month period. If you choose to believe that they will continue to do so then follow them. The other 15 that were posted showed major losses over this same time period. This website is preying on people looking only at win/loss records. Why do you think they don't post profit on the site, only wins and losses.
Just an example...winners inc....a 17-12 win/loss record the last month but showed NO profit. Yeah I heard they were hot the month before, congrats, but you have to ask yourself why they don't post profit in a sport that you play Moneyline. The 58% win record looks good though.
I am trying not to be negative here guys but I am asking for a little objectivity in return.
Best of luck with whatever you decide. If you don't like seeing the records or think it is a waste of time, please ignore and move on. I suspect that there are some that are interested. That is why I chose not to put it in the service play thread.

ArizonaBound · Jun 18, 2008

Another reason to keep track of records. Stats tell a story, especially if you peel back the layers and dig in some. I mentioned this a couple weeks back but it was dismissed because all of the favs were hitting....I mentioned that the games where the uwin guys were paying lower juice that they were 50% winners and not making money.
Games tracked from May 15 through yesterday here is an updated record of games where the uwin crew laid -140 or LOWER

79 wins
68 losses
53.7% winners
-$110 based on 100 per play.
average juice -116.

This is an indication to me that these guys are either not very good overall or they are just throwing darts to make a sell. GL if you continue to follow, I hope they turn it around for the guys investing in them.