This should be the All-Star teams based on Numbers. What do you think?

AllInAintNothin' · Jun 28, 2008

AL:

1B. J Morneau
2B. Kinsler
3B. Crede
SS. Jeter
C. Mauer
RF. Jermaine Dye
LF. Carlos Quentin
CF. Josh Hamilton

Reserves.
Milton Bradley
Manny
Drew
A-Rod
AJ
Youkilis
Pedroia
Young

I know there are more players that make it but that is where I would cut it.

SP. Cliff Lee
SP. Joe Saunders
SP. Ervin Santana
SP. Dice K
SP. Gavin Floyd
SP. John Danks?
RP. Linebrink?
RP. Jenks
RP. K-Rod
RP. Papelbon
RP. Nathan
RP. Rivera
RP. Soria

Shame that the fans screw this up because it's all Yankee's and Red Sox. Those have been the best players in the league and with the game now counting they should change how it's done.

NL:

1B. Berkman
2B. Utley
3B. Chipper
SS. Hanley Ramirez
RF. Ludwick
LF. Braun
CF. McLouth
C. Soto

Reserves
McCann
Uggla
Adrian Gonzalez
Reyes
Aramis
Burrell
Carlos Lee
Beltran
Fukudome

SP. Volquez
SP. Webb
SP. Sheets
SP. Dempster
SP. Lincecum
SP. Johan
RP. Wood
RP. Lidge
RP. Wagner
RP. Capps
RP. JC Romero

That's my opinion and it's a shame a lot of these guys won't be making the trip.

AllInAintNothin' · Jun 28, 2008

Let me add this is just my opinion. Obviously and if you think I left someone off then add them.

knowthegame · Jun 28, 2008

NO Fukudome!!!!

FairWarning · Jun 28, 2008

Problem with the All-Star game is no one pays big to see Quintin or Ryan Ludwick. Are they ass-stars or half-season wonders? Remember Jack Armstrong for further reference.

AllInAintNothin' · Jun 28, 2008

FairWarning said:
Problem with the All-Star game is no one pays big to see Quintin or Ryan Ludwick. Are they ass-stars or half-season wonders? Remember Jack Armstrong for further reference.

Yeah but the point of the All-Star game is for the guys playing the best this year to get in, not the guys that have done it for a while. Right now I feel like that should be the roster. It gives the team the best chance to win but I do agree with you.

FairWarning · Jun 28, 2008

All In Aint Nothin' said:
Yeah but the point of the All-Star game is for the guys playing the best this year to get in, not the guys that have done it for a while. Right now I feel like that should be the roster. It gives the team the best chance to win but I do agree with you.

When it started in 1933, it was the best players as voted by the writers. The managers picked the rosters in 1935-late 50's.

For the most part the fans have gotten it right lately. For all the Yankees and Red Sox on it, Hanley Ramirez will make it too. He has little fanfare.

Not sure the point is for the best half-season players to make it though.

Gator627 · Jun 28, 2008

Dan Uggla's numbers are almost identical to Utley's yet Uggla is in 4th in the voting and Utley is a runaway winner.

thesandman1 · Jun 28, 2008

Where Is the Best Starter In the American League

If it's based on numbers, where is the only American League starter with an ERA under 2. He is 8-4, 1.99 ERA and a WHIP under 1. Not only should he be on the team, either he or Lee should be the starter.

And where is his team mate. 5-0, with a 2.15 ERA. True, due to injury, he is about 6 innings short from being among the lead leaders, but he is healthy now coming off 8 innings of 2 hit shutout baseball Wednesday.

The real shame is the lack of West Coast players, a lot of which is due to how late the games are on the East Coast. Still, how many can name the two pitchers above that should be on the team, without looking for them online or in the paper. A hint, one was on the American League All Star team two years ago AND you can't miss him now. He starts in 20 minutes.

One other thing you can't forget is that every team needs one player on the team. This keeps players off the team that should be on the team but hopefully it should be easier this year with some of the best players on teams like Florida, Tampa and Oakland, teams that are way ahead of last years pace in the standings. The magic word for all of this is PARITY.

All In Aint Nothin', nice start. This should lead to some good discussion in the days ahead.

AllInAintNothin' · Jun 29, 2008

thesandman1 said:
If it's based on numbers, where is the only American League starter with an ERA under 2. He is 8-4, 1.99 ERA and a WHIP under 1. Not only should he be on the team, either he or Lee should be the starter.

And where is his team mate. 5-0, with a 2.15 ERA. True, due to injury, he is about 6 innings short from being among the lead leaders, but he is healthy now coming off 8 innings of 2 hit shutout baseball Wednesday.

The real shame is the lack of West Coast players, a lot of which is due to how late the games are on the East Coast. Still, how many can name the two pitchers above that should be on the team, without looking for them online or in the paper. A hint, one was on the American League All Star team two years ago AND you can't miss him now. He starts in 20 minutes.

One other thing you can't forget is that every team needs one player on the team. This keeps players off the team that should be on the team but hopefully it should be easier this year with some of the best players on teams like Florida, Tampa and Oakland, teams that are way ahead of last years pace in the standings. The magic word for all of this is PARITY.

All In Aint Nothin', nice start. This should lead to some good discussion in the days ahead.

Right when I read this thread this morning and read the first line I knew I had left of Duchscherer, if that's how you spell it, and I realized that was a mistake haha.

Harden, who I think is the other guy you're talking about, hasn't pitched enough innings yet so I wouldn't put him in there. It's the same reason I have Joe Crede starting over A-Rod.

Also it is supposed to be who is the best player in the league at this point; for this half season. That's who an All-Star is for one year. Not who has had the better career.

Also don't think Carlos Quentin is a one year wonder. He has always had an immense amount of talent.

gtc08 · Jun 29, 2008

prince fielder should be there

krk1030 · Jun 29, 2008

Johnny Damon should be an All-Star.

ATP · Jun 29, 2008

pujols, even missing time his numbers are solid

ATP · Jun 29, 2008

and jair jurrgens from atlanta

AllInAintNothin' · Jun 30, 2008

More people can be added because this isn't a full roster. Also don't think Johnny Damon's numbers are good enough to be on the team.

quinnsft34 · Jun 30, 2008

gtc08 said:
prince fielder should be there

No he shouldn't hope that was a joke.

FairWarning · Jun 30, 2008

I know you have Crede starting base on numbers, but how about this number - Joe Crede is leading the league in errors.

AllInAintNothin' · Jul 1, 2008

FairWarning said:
I know you have Crede starting base on numbers, but how about this number - Joe Crede is leading the league in errors.

Yes I agree but many would still argue he's one of, or the, best defensive third basemen in baseball. Grace said it this past weekend and Baseball Tonight has also made the statement. He has been way to lackadaisical on his throws causing him to throw them away.

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