F*cK RiVerStars!

Double Sat to Sun Million. Down to Heads-Up before Final Table. 1st Hand we play .... Same Old Story .. Dumb Luck or Just Fucking Rigged !

Fuckin Joke! Happens To Me All The Time! Fuck Stars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PokerStars Game #18599007599: Tournament #93754504, $10.70+$1.00 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level VIII (200/400) - 2008/07/05 - 11:27:53 (ET)
Table '93754504 5' 10-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: panzerotti (11080 in chips)
Seat 6: Rude4 (3920 in chips)
panzerotti: posts the ante 25
Rude4: posts the ante 25
panzerotti: posts small blind 200
Rude4: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rude4 [Ac Jh]
panzerotti: raises 400 to 800
Rude4: raises 3095 to 3895 and is all-in
panzerotti: calls 3095
*** FLOP *** [3s 6h Td]
Rude4 said, "so rigged"
*** TURN *** [3s 6h Td] [9s]
*** RIVER *** [3s 6h Td 9s] [Ks]
Rude4 said, "fuc this place"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Rude4: shows [Ac Jh] (high card Ace)
panzerotti: shows [Ah 6d] (a pair of Sixes)
panzerotti collected 7840 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7840 | Rake 0
Board [3s 6h Td 9s Ks]
Seat 1: panzerotti (button) (small blind) showed [Ah 6d] and won (7840) with a pair of Sixes
Seat 6: Rude4 (big blind) showed [Ac Jh] and lost with high card Ace

PokerStars Game #18599100379: Tournament #94552801, $11.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2008/07/05 - 11:33:33 (ET)
Table '94552801 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Rude4 (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: JacquiH (1500 in chips)
Rude4: posts small blind 10
JacquiH: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rude4 [5h Ah]
Rude4: raises 40 to 60
JacquiH: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [Ks Th As]
JacquiH: bets 60
Rude4: raises 60 to 120
JacquiH: calls 60
*** TURN *** [Ks Th As] [Qs]
JacquiH: checks
Rude4: bets 100
JacquiH: calls 100
*** RIVER *** [Ks Th As Qs] [2h]
JacquiH: checks
Rude4: bets 250
JacquiH: calls 250
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Rude4: shows [5h Ah] (a pair of Aces)
JacquiH: shows [2s Ad] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
JacquiH collected 1060 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1060 | Rake 0
Board [Ks Th As Qs 2h]
Seat 1: Rude4 (button) (small blind) showed [5h Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: JacquiH (big blind) showed [2s Ad] and won (1060) with two pair, Aces and Deuces

In scenario 1 with Panzerotti:

Pre flop you are 69% favorite, but you can't blame Pazerotti with an almost 3-1 chip lead to put you all in with an Ace heads up.

Unfortunatly for you he hit mid pair with that 3-6-10 rainbow, putting you at a major disadvantage (85%).
Sixth street and the river were blanks for you - tough beat, but not a bad beat.


Second scenario with JacquiH:
Very early in the tourney, you had a 38% - 21% lead heads up with a 41% chance of a chop pot, pre flop.
With that K-T-A flop, the hand became almost a coin flip with you holding an insignificant 16%-14% edge and a 70% chance of a chop pot.
With the spaded Queen on the turn, that gave her a flush draw and a major advantage.
Spiking the deuce at the end was the coffin nail.

But from what I can tell, no fix, you are (and rightfully so) frustrated, but nothing really fishy happended that I can see.

to be honest I hate the second hand and how its played out

What gets me is that the opposite never goes my way. That's the point I'm trying to make.

Every time I win a hand opposite similar to what happens to me, it's never a last hand, finishing tournamment result.

Whenever I have a better hand, the other guy always seems to pull out some runner runnner, or river miracle card everytime.

So frustrating .. but I continue to grind it out, as I make the right call/play 90% of the time.

Yeah Ok ... Same Story ....

Like I said .. never goes my way


PokerStars Game #18601325816: Tournament #94563717, $22+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level II (15/30) - 2008/07/05 - 13:34:40 (ET)
Table '94563717 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hiwad (810 in chips)
Seat 2: Rude4 (2190 in chips)
Hiwad: posts small blind 15
Rude4: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rude4 [Qh Ad]
Hiwad: raises 30 to 60
Rude4: raises 2130 to 2190 and is all-in
Hiwad: calls 750 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1380) returned to Rude4
*** FLOP *** [6d Kc Th]
*** TURN *** [6d Kc Th] [8h]
*** RIVER *** [6d Kc Th 8h] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Rude4: shows [Qh Ad] (a pair of Aces)
Hiwad: shows [Jc Qc] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
Hiwad collected 1620 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1620 | Rake 0
Board [6d Kc Th 8h Ah]
Seat 1: Hiwad (button) (small blind) showed [Jc Qc] and won (1620) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 2: Rude4 (big blind) showed [Qh Ad] and lost with a pair of Aces

Preflop favorite again there.
I can see why you are frustrated, but in all three cases your opponent are not going to the flop with rags, you are just getting outflopped is all, grind it out, the cards will come your way.

billhill999 said:

Preflop favorite again there.
I can see why you are frustrated, but in all three cases your opponent are not going to the flop with rags, you are just getting outflopped is all, grind it out, the cards will come your way.

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So true .. but when it's happening like this to me more than I win, frustration sets in and I start to doubt my decisions.

When the smart/right play seems to lose most of the time, one starts to wonder if the smart/right play is the way to go.

PokerStars Game #18602318398: Tournament #94566960, $22+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level V (75/150) - 2008/07/05 - 14:23:17 (ET)
Table '94566960 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Rude4 (1825 in chips)
Seat 2: -Alive80- (1175 in chips)
Rude4: posts small blind 75
-Alive80-: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rude4 [4d 8c]
Rude4: calls 75
-Alive80-: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qc 4c 8s]
-Alive80-: checks
Rude4: bets 150
-Alive80-: raises 600 to 750
Rude4: raises 600 to 1350
-Alive80-: calls 275 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (325) returned to Rude4
*** TURN *** [Qc 4c 8s] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [Qc 4c 8s 9h] [9s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
-Alive80-: shows [Qh 7c] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
Rude4: shows [4d 8c] (two pair, Nines and Eights)
-Alive80- collected 2350 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2350 | Rake 0
Board [Qc 4c 8s 9h 9s]
Seat 1: Rude4 (button) (small blind) showed [4d 8c] and lost with two pair, Nines and Eights
Seat 2: -Alive80- (big blind) showed [Qh 7c] and won (2350) with two pair, Queens and Nines

PokerStars Game #18602358831: Tournament #94566960, $22+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level V (75/150) - 2008/07/05 - 14:25:16 (ET)
Table '94566960 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Rude4 (700 in chips)
Seat 2: -Alive80- (2300 in chips)
Rude4: posts small blind 75
-Alive80-: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rude4 [8d Ac]
Rude4: raises 550 to 700 and is all-in
-Alive80-: calls 550
*** FLOP *** [Kh 9h 3d]
Rude4 said, "lol"
*** TURN *** [Kh 9h 3d] [Tc]
*** RIVER *** [Kh 9h 3d Tc] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
-Alive80-: shows [9s Kd] (two pair, Kings and Nines)
Rude4: shows [8d Ac] (high card Ace)
-Alive80- collected 1400 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1400 | Rake 0
Board [Kh 9h 3d Tc Jc]
Seat 1: Rude4 (button) (small blind) showed [8d Ac] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 2: -Alive80- (big blind) showed [9s Kd] and won (1400) with two pair, Kings and Nines

So when do these start going my way ?

Everything I have read/heard may be true about percentages and all that .. but no one will ever be able to convince me they are true when playing ONLINE.

That's Poker! Fuck ME! Let the grind continue.

you mean this riverstars????


PokerStars Game #18605860955: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/07/05 - 17:06:46 (ET)
Table 'Appella III' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: alty88 ($51.30 in chips)
Seat 2: wezvidzz ($42.70 in chips)
Seat 4: nickianthony ($62.35 in chips)
Seat 5: Rebelrenz ($121.25 in chips)
Seat 6: hero ($54.95 in chips)
Seat 7: ilushin1978 ($14 in chips)
Seat 8: BlackQ8 ($43.20 in chips)
nickianthony: posts small blind $0.25
Rebelrenz: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [Qc Kc]
flu0618 leaves the table
hero: raises $1.50 to $2
ilushin1978: folds
lol_minbet joins the table at seat #3
lol_minbet leaves the table
BlackQ8: folds
alty88: calls $2
wezvidzz: folds
nickianthony: folds
Rebelrenz: folds
*** FLOP *** [3s 3h Qh]
hero: bets $2.50
alty88: raises $3.50 to $6
hero: raises $12 to $18
alty88: raises $31.30 to $49.30 and is all-in
hero: calls $31.30
*** TURN *** [3s 3h Qh] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [3s 3h Qh 3c] [Jd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hero: shows [Qc Kc] (a full house, Threes full of Queens)
alty88: shows [Jc Jh] (a full house, Jacks full of Threes)
alty88 collected $100.35 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $103.35 | Rake $3
Board [3s 3h Qh 3c Jd]
Seat 1: alty88 showed [Jc Jh] and won ($100.35) with a full house, Jacks full of Threes
Seat 2: wezvidzz (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: nickianthony (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Rebelrenz (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: hero showed [Qc Kc] and lost with a full house, Threes full of Queens
Seat 7: ilushin1978 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: BlackQ8 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

wow rude you run bad, and I mean BAD





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BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-BOTTOM: #bccad6 1px solid; HEIGHT: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #bccad6" align=right width=66>Profit</TD><TD title="Return on Investment" style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 1px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-BOTTOM: #bccad6 1px solid; HEIGHT: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #bccad6" align=right width=57>ROI</TD><TD title="Avg. buyin" style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 1px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-BOTTOM: #bccad6 1px solid; HEIGHT: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #bccad6" align=right width=46>ABI</TD><TD title="Avg. field size" style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 1px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-BOTTOM: #bccad6 1px solid; HEIGHT: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #bccad6" align=right width=41>AFS</TD><TD title="How many percentage of tournaments played was R/A (re-buy/add-on) tournaments" style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 1px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-BOTTOM: #bccad6 1px solid; HEIGHT: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #bccad6" align=right width=41>R/A</TD><TD title="In the money/Played" style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 1px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-BOTTOM: #bccad6 1px solid; HEIGHT: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #bccad6" align=right width=60>ITM</TD><TD title="In the money" style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 1px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-BOTTOM: #bccad6 1px solid; HEIGHT: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #bccad6" align=right width=45>ITM</TD></TR><TR><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px"> Hold'em NL </TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>$55</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right><$0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>-91%</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>$12</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>468</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>38%</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>1/53</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>2%</TD></TR><TR><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px"> Hold'em L/PL </TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>$0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>$0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>0%</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>$0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>0%</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>0/0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>0%</TD></TR><TR><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px"> Omaha </TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>$0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>$0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>0%</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>$0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>0%</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>0/0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>0%</TD></TR><TR><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px"> Omaha Hi Lo </TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>$0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>$0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>0%</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>$0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>0%</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>0/0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>0%</TD></TR><TR><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px"> Other </TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>$0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>$0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>0%</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>$0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>0%</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>0/0</TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 15px" align=right>0%</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-TOP: #bccad6 1px solid; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-BOTTOM-COLOR: #bccad6; HEIGHT: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #bccad6"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-TOP: #bccad6 1px solid; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-BOTTOM-COLOR: #bccad6; HEIGHT: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #bccad6" align=right>$55</TD><TD style="BORDER-TOP: #bccad6 1px solid; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-BOTTOM-COLOR: #bccad6; HEIGHT: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #bccad6" align=right><$0</TD><TD style="BORDER-TOP: #bccad6 1px solid; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-BOTTOM-COLOR: #bccad6; HEIGHT: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #bccad6" align=right>-91%</TD><TD style="BORDER-TOP: #bccad6 1px solid; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-BOTTOM-COLOR: #bccad6; HEIGHT: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #bccad6" align=right>$12</TD><TD style="BORDER-TOP: #bccad6 1px solid; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-BOTTOM-COLOR: #bccad6; HEIGHT: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #bccad6" align=right>468</TD><TD style="BORDER-TOP: #bccad6 1px solid; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-BOTTOM-COLOR: #bccad6; HEIGHT: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #bccad6" align=right>38%</TD><TD style="BORDER-TOP: #bccad6 1px solid; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-BOTTOM-COLOR: #bccad6; HEIGHT: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #bccad6" align=right>1/53</TD><TD style="BORDER-TOP: #bccad6 1px solid; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-BOTTOM-COLOR: #bccad6; HEIGHT: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #bccad6" align=right>2%</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD width=12></TD><TD vAlign=top width=100><TABLE class=ContentM style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; TEXT-ALIGN: right" height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=SumLine title="Avg. Finish: Please see FAQ" style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 1px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-BOTTOM: #bccad6 1px solid; HEIGHT: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #bccad6" align=left colSpan=2>Avg. Finish</TD></TR><TR><TD align=left width=15>Early</TD><TD width=85>17% (10%)</TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>EM</TD><TD>23% (20%)</TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>Mid.</TD><TD>45% (40%)</TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>ML</TD><TD>13% (20%)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=SumLine align=left>Late</TD><TD class=SumLine style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px">2% (10%)</TD></TR><TR><TD align=left></TD><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD height=6></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

PokerStars Game #18612600814: Tournament #93876056, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/07/05 - 22:52:16 (ET)
Table '93876056 162' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: HOSS (5712 in chips)
Seat 2: Pod666 (2005 in chips)
Seat 3: buffsa (8515 in chips)
Seat 4: cecaro11 (915 in chips)
Seat 5: rarely sober (5720 in chips)
Seat 6: sandy's man (4000 in chips)
Seat 7: W3DAVIS (4075 in chips)
Seat 8: ole_school (10140 in chips)
Seat 9: allynlong (8918 in chips)
cecaro11: posts small blind 100
rarely sober: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to allynlong [Ks Ad]
sandy's man: folds
W3DAVIS: raises 3875 to 4075 and is all-in
ole_school: folds
allynlong: calls 4075
HOSS: folds
Pod666: folds
buffsa: folds
cecaro11: folds
rarely sober: folds
*** FLOP *** [2d 4d Jh]
*** TURN *** [2d 4d Jh] [Qc]
*** RIVER *** [2d 4d Jh Qc] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
W3DAVIS: shows [Ac 8s] (a pair of Eights)
allynlong: shows [Ks Ad] (high card Ace)
W3DAVIS collected 8450 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8450 | Rake 0
Board [2d 4d Jh Qc 8h]
Seat 1: HOSS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Pod666 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: buffsa (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: cecaro11 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: rarely sober (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: sandy's man folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: W3DAVIS showed [Ac 8s] and won (8450) with a pair of Eights
Seat 8: ole_school folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: allynlong showed [Ks Ad] and lost with high card Ace

<TABLE class=ContentM style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; TEXT-ALIGN: right" height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=SumLine title="Avg. Finish: Please see FAQ" style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 1px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-BOTTOM: #bccad6 1px solid; HEIGHT: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #bccad6" align=left colSpan=2>Avg. Finish</TD></TR><TR><TD align=left width=15>Early</TD><TD width=85>17% (10%)</TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>EM</TD><TD>23% (20%)</TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>Mid.</TD><TD>45% (40%</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

These numbers are when u exit a tourny, the avg is in ().......as u can see Rude yours are above avg early. Which means your playing too loose, playing to big of pots , taking to many early coin flips or all of the above...You a member at Poker x-factor or Real Poker Training??? It would be worth a few bucks to get some help.......

ProPokerPlayer said:

<TABLE class=ContentM style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; TEXT-ALIGN: right" height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=SumLine title="Avg. Finish: Please see FAQ" style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 1px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: #bccad6; BORDER-BOTTOM: #bccad6 1px solid; HEIGHT: 15px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #bccad6" align=left colSpan=2>Avg. Finish</TD></TR><TR><TD align=left width=15>Early</TD><TD width=85>17% (10%)</TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>EM</TD><TD>23% (20%)</TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>Mid.</TD><TD>45% (40%</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

These numbers are when u exit a tourny, the avg is in ().......as u can see Rude yours are above avg early. Which means your playing too loose, playing to big of pots , taking to many early coin flips or all of the above...You a member at Poker x-factor or Real Poker Training??? It would be worth a few bucks to get some help.......

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Could be right. I'm gonna start keeping track of all my tournaments and where I finish and what my last hand is.

1. $11 NL Hold'em 6 Max (629 Players)

So frustrating ... Bad luck or played it bad again ....

PokerStars Game #18613198034: Tournament #94341917, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/07/05 - 23:28:00 (ET)
Table '94341917 10' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: EBANKO (2000 in chips)
Seat 2: derek27 (1245 in chips)
Seat 3: dutchman180 (1830 in chips)
Seat 4: BigPopGreen (995 in chips)
Seat 5: LT STINGER (1410 in chips)
Seat 6: Rude4 (1520 in chips)
EBANKO: posts small blind 10
derek27: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rude4 [Qd Ks]
dutchman180: calls 20
BigPopGreen: calls 20
LT STINGER: folds
Rude4: calls 20
EBANKO: calls 10
derek27: checks
*** FLOP *** [5c Kd Tc]
EBANKO: checks
derek27: checks
dutchman180: checks
BigPopGreen: bets 60
Rude4: calls 60
EBANKO: folds
derek27: folds
dutchman180: folds
*** TURN *** [5c Kd Tc] [Kh]
BigPopGreen: bets 60
Rude4: raises 200 to 260
BigPopGreen: calls 200
*** RIVER *** [5c Kd Tc Kh] [8c]
BigPopGreen: bets 655 and is all-in
Rude4: calls 655
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BigPopGreen: shows [8s Kc] (a full house, Kings full of Eights)
Rude4: shows [Qd Ks] (three of a kind, Kings)
BigPopGreen collected 2050 from pot
Rude4 said, "
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2050 | Rake 0
Board [5c Kd Tc Kh 8c]
Seat 1: EBANKO (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: derek27 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: dutchman180 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: BigPopGreen showed [8s Kc] and won (2050) with a full house, Kings full of Eights
Seat 5: LT STINGER folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Rude4 (button) showed [Qd Ks] and lost with three of a kind, Kings

PokerStars Game #18613273552: Tournament #94341917, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/07/05 - 23:32:38 (ET)
Table '94341917 10' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: EBANKO (3180 in chips)
Seat 2: derek27 (1165 in chips)
Seat 3: amassop (3860 in chips)
Seat 4: BigPopGreen (2020 in chips)
Seat 5: LT STINGER (640 in chips)
Seat 6: Rude4 (495 in chips)
Rude4: posts small blind 15
EBANKO: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rude4 [Ah Js]
EBANKO said, "you played so passively, i thought id push you out"
derek27: folds
amassop: calls 30
BigPopGreen: folds
LT STINGER: calls 30
Rude4: raises 465 to 495 and is all-in
EBANKO: folds
amassop: calls 465
LT STINGER: folds
*** FLOP *** [4h Ts 3s]
*** TURN *** [4h Ts 3s] [4s]
*** RIVER *** [4h Ts 3s 4s] [Kd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Rude4: shows [Ah Js] (a pair of Fours)
amassop: shows [9c 9d] (two pair, Nines and Fours)
Rude4 said, "gg"
amassop collected 1050 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1050 | Rake 0
Board [4h Ts 3s 4s Kd]
Seat 1: EBANKO (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: derek27 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: amassop showed [9c 9d] and won (1050) with two pair, Nines and Fours
Seat 4: BigPopGreen folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: LT STINGER (button) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Rude4 (small blind) showed [Ah Js] and lost with a pair of Fours

If u folded AJ and KQ EVERYTIME it was ever dealt you in the 1st 2 levels it would be only a very small mistake SOMETIMES , but 95% of the time it would be a good move..

Your betting into nothing pots at those levels. Your risking ur whole tourny to win those hands where even if u were all-in and won you'd only have 4000 chips...you cant win the tourny in the 1st half hour but you can damn sure lose it..

ProPokerPlayer said:

If u folded AJ and KQ EVERYTIME it was ever dealt you in the 1st 2 levels it would be only a very small mistake SOMETIMES , but 95% of the time it would be a good move..

Your betting into nothing pots at those levels. Your risking ur whole tourny to win those hands where even if u were all-in and won you'd only have 4000 chips...you cant win the tourny in the 1st half hour but you can damn sure lose it..

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Great Point

How would you have played that hand I lost with 3Kings on the river ?

To aggressive ? Should I have gone ALL IN when I got the 3 Kings ?

or was it just another BAD Break ?