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Full Tilt Poker Game #7133529322: $70 + $5 Sit & Go (Super Turbo) (54230673), Table 1 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:05:17 ET - 2008/07/08
Seat 3: nut_floppers (620)
Seat 4: HDFATTY (470)
Seat 7: MileHiMadman (380)
Seat 9: POR1985 (1,230)
HDFATTY posts the small blind of 25
MileHiMadman posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nut_floppers [Kc As]
POR1985 raises to 1,230, and is all in
nut_floppers folds
HDFATTY folds
MileHiMadman has 15 seconds left to act
MileHiMadman calls 330, and is all in
 

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Full Tilt Poker Game #7133634528: $28 + $2 Sit & Go (Super Turbo) (54231278), Table 1 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:23:58 ET - 2008/07/08
Seat 4: nut_floppers (265)
Seat 7: pokey30 (205)
Seat 8: NewKommer (1,550)
Seat 9: MingLi (680)
MingLi posts the small blind of 40
nut_floppers posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nut_floppers [Qc Kh]
pokey30 folds
NewKommer folds
MingLi has 15 seconds left to act
MingLi raises to 680, and is all in
nut_floppers calls 185, and is all in
MingLi shows [Jd 9s]
nut_floppers shows [Qc Kh]
Uncalled bet of 415 returned to MingLi
*** FLOP *** [2h Jh Ad]
*** TURN *** [2h Jh Ad] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [2h Jh Ad 7h] [9c]
MingLi shows two pair, Jacks and Nines
nut_floppers shows Ace King high
MingLi wins the pot (530) with two pair, Jacks and Nines
nut_floppers stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 530 | Rake 0
Board: [2h Jh Ad 7h 9c]
Seat 4: nut_floppers (big blind) showed [Qc Kh] and lost with Ace King high
Seat 7: pokey30 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: NewKommer (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: MingLi (small blind) showed [Jd 9s] and won (530) with two pair, Jacks and Nines
 

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how u fold AK in a super turbo????? or KQ for that matter..
 

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looks like the 75 dollar tourney was out of yuor bankroll and you were trying to fold into 3rd for the cash......

don't do this - ever
 

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In your 2 hands, you should never fold. But this is mainly because your stack was so low.


The odds of you getting a better hand than the king-queen is slim due to the amount of time left.




I would imagine that in your ace-king hand, the guy probably held anywhere from king-queen to ace-8.

NO HIGHER than that. If he had aces or kings, then he WOULD NOT have raised all in. He would have wanted a caller with those hands. Likewise, he would not have went all in with queens either
 

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IFFFFFFFFFFFF you were behind in the ace-king hand, then most likely he had ace-king suited.

But likewise, with ace-king, you dont necc go all in.



One goes all in late with shitty hands in order to steal the blinds. They would raise a small amount with the top 5 hands in order to get a double or triple up
 

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Here is my question, I dont understand why you play those super turbo's, seems like you play them alot, I really don't think their is any poker skill involved in those, id play the lottery before that LOL
 

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I play the turbos all of the time. But the main reason is because I think that it affects other players more than me
 

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you can't say their is much skill in these, its a shove fest
 

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shit, i wish I could find the hand history.....

one guy had pockets and one guy had AQ....board went all low and the pocket pair won. I would've called but I was 2nd in chips and the tourney pays top 3.
 

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I love those damn super turbos.....

In theory, the luck factor is amplified greatly, but there still is money to be made. Some people will go all in with very poor cards (sometimes forced).....I have never played in tourneys before where every move is VERY important to your outcome (even the first hand)

If you are a degen like me...these things are like addicting drugs!
 

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usually level 1 blinds mean jack

in the super turbos, stealing level 1 blinds are +EV.....if you catch someone stealing level 1 blinds, that is very +EV
 

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shdw - AK is golden there...most likely you are up against A-x, if that !
 

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