Nastiest NL pitcher

honkee · Jul 9, 2008

Gotta be Zambrano i mean his shit is just disgusting, not being a homer at all but hes a fucking beast

Boxer22 · Jul 9, 2008

I would have to say Cole Hamels. Given the park he plays in, and what his era is. Plus he leads the league in complete games and came one out shy of another one 2 starts ago. Zambrano is very good, but if I could pick one or the other. I'm going Hamels.

honkee · Jul 10, 2008

U would take hamels over zambrano?
nah

OTK · Jul 10, 2008

Peavy when healthy is the best pitcher in the NL. After him though it's Santana, then Zambrano and then Hudson.

Hamels and Haren are up there too. A lot of good pitchers in the NL.

Most complete games though for Hamels? I'm not looking at the stats, but are you sure Doc isn't leading that category by like 2 or 3 CG's?

Boxer22 · Jul 10, 2008

OTK said:
Peavy when healthy is the best pitcher in the NL. After him though it's Santana, then Zambrano and then Hudson.

Hamels and Haren are up there too. A lot of good pitchers in the NL.

Most complete games though for Hamels? I'm not looking at the stats, but are you sure Doc isn't leading that category by like 2 or 3 CG's?

Hamels leads the NL. The title of this thread was nastiest NL pitcher. I'll give you Peavy and Sambrano, but Hamels is better then Hudson and Santana.

Boxer22 · Jul 10, 2008

Im sorry Sheets leads the NL now.

honkee · Jul 10, 2008

Hamels is not better than johan or even hudson, we're talking about proven pitchers over years over a kid on the phillies.

quinnsft34 · Jul 10, 2008

That kid is pretty fucking good. I'll take him over Hudson any day.
Zambrano is a head case.

MrClutch · Jul 10, 2008

Best Pitcher in NL

What about Webb?

Illini · Jul 10, 2008

Brad Lidge. Uneffinghittable.

rjt721 · Jul 10, 2008

Illini said:
Brad Lidge. Uneffinghittable.

This is the correct answer.

Honorable mention: Lincecum

clearx1 · Jul 10, 2008

Pujols set Brad Lidge a few years back, but seem to gotten his rhythm.

My vote goes to Lincecum.

OTK · Jul 10, 2008

Lincecum is in the same boat as Volquez. Not a big enough sample size to start saying they're one of the top.

Boxer22 · Jul 10, 2008

OTK said:
Lincecum is in the same boat as Volquez. Not a big enough sample size to start saying they're one of the top.

Once teams get a book on those two they won't be as dominant as they have been.

4SHO · Jul 10, 2008

My vote to goes to Lincecum as well. Have you seen this guy pitch fellas? Bats break with his fast ball!!! And to have that record on the SF team. Hands down LINCECUM...

rjt721 · Jul 10, 2008

OTK said:
Lincecum is in the same boat as Volquez. Not a big enough sample size to start saying they're one of the top.

A large sample size isn't required to say a pitcher has the nastiest stuff in the league.

OTK · Jul 10, 2008

SF isn't THAT bad of a team. They're third in their division and only a few games behind teams like the Braves and Reds. They're not a good team, but for some reason people talk about them like they're the worst in the majors when really if they got hot right now they could be in contention for the division.

4SHO · Jul 10, 2008

OTK the only reason for them being third in there division is because of Lincecum. Take out half his wins and make them losses, and SF is last in their division.

Harvey Dent · Jul 10, 2008

Johan hands down...watch his second half

zeketaylor · Jul 10, 2008

OTK said:
Peavy when healthy is the best pitcher in the NL. After him though it's Santana, then Zambrano and then Hudson.

Hamels and Haren are up there too. A lot of good pitchers in the NL.

Most complete games though for Hamels? I'm not looking at the stats, but are you sure Doc isn't leading that category by like 2 or 3 CG's?

everyone in this thread mentioned has been dominant, and consistent, and could be capable of this title.....i lean toward peavy...

but my comment is related to your mention of hudson.....watch some games man...he doesnt have it anymore and hasnt in several years...he should even be mentioned in this list....hes a sinkerball pitcher who all of a sudden gives up way to many home runs......which is tuff to do for a sinker baller.....he shouldnt even be mentioned in this thread. U mentioned him in front of hamels, which is laughable.