MY GOSH, one can actually make a case for MANRAM as NL MVP!

Fishhead · Sep 11, 2008

Manny since the trade:

.396 AVG
14 HR
40 RBI
.491 OBP
.776 SLG
1.267 OPS

They have gone from 2 games out of first to 3.5 up since Manny's arrival.

Think about this, we have had pitchers win the MVP playing LESS games.

The numbers he has put up are just sick, sick, sick.

If they win the division, HE WILL CERTAINLY GARNISH SOME VOTES FOR MVP............which is just incredible really. I wonder if any writer(s) will actually give him a first place vote??

TomorrowsNewspaper · Sep 11, 2008

agreed. Still amazed they got him for a washing machine or something similar. Could go down as one of the greatest trades of all time if they were to win it all. Big if though.

douglas · Sep 11, 2008

What about Delgado ?

OTK · Sep 11, 2008

I don't why you'd only count his numbers in the NL? Is that a rule, that you have to only count the numbers in the conference he's playing in currently? Same thing with CC. Not sure what his numbers look like for the season, but they aren't nearly as impressive as his numbers just from the Brewers.

I think you should have to count the entire year, AL Or NL. Still, I'd say Manny is up there with Pujols for MVP. My vote goes to Albert though.

HPark1 · Sep 11, 2008

Yeah great numbers but he has literally zero chance of winning MVP.

Pujols numbers are truly ridiculous and they are legitimate with 450+ AB's.

5teamparlay · Sep 11, 2008

What hat will he wear to the HOF?

Manny has improved those around him as well:
Ethier is must improved, he has added 27 points to his average since the Aug 1st trade.

From .274 to .301

9 HR (20 for the year total)

PAPI has 4 HR since the trade and has gone from .261 to .265.

barman · Sep 11, 2008

OTK said:
I don't why you'd only count his numbers in the NL? Is that a rule, that you have to only count the numbers in the conference he's playing in currently? Same thing with CC. Not sure what his numbers look like for the season, but they aren't nearly as impressive as his numbers just from the Brewers.

I think you should have to count the entire year, AL Or NL. Still, I'd say Manny is up there with Pujols for MVP. My vote goes to Albert though.

For better or worse, MLB statistics are only compiled by league.

Brings to mind some of the great interleague trades from past years and the stats racked up in the second league.

Rick Sutcliffe from Indians to Cubs in 1984 ....16-3 for the Cubs if I recall correctly (My baseball trivia brain cells are too vain to actually look it up).

Doyle Alexander in 1987 from Braves to Tigers (in exchange for a guy named Smoltz) where he went 11-0 and led Detroit to AL East title.

asufan550 · Sep 11, 2008

Anybody that votes for somebody other than Pujols should have their voting rights revoked. The award is a joke as it is (as are 99% of those who vote for it), no need to make it any worse with discussions like this.

FairWarning · Sep 11, 2008

asufan550 said:
Anybody that votes for somebody other than Pujols should have their voting rights revoked. The award is a joke as it is (as are 99% of those who vote for it), no need to make it any worse with discussions like this.

Him or Delgado.

HarryCaray · Sep 11, 2008

barman said:
Rick Sutcliffe from Indians to Cubs in 1984 ....16-3 for the Cubs if I recall correctly (My baseball trivia brain cells are too vain to actually look it up).

16-1 my friend. :103631605

ATP · Sep 11, 2008

i was thinking same thing earlier, made a fantasy trade for him earlier in the yr makes me look like a genius, Magglio and Oswalt for Manny, def worked for me