Do you believe in that "3 strikes rule" out in Cali?

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not sure if it is in any other State, but what bullshit and a waste of tax paying money.

I was watching cops and heard this mentioned, what a joke. Could be someone with a drug problem and just needs help. Grant it, they have to want it to get it, but what good is it locking some drug offender up at our expense.
 
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bigbet1234 said:
not sure if it is in any other State, but what bullshit and a waste of tax paying money.

I was watching cops and heard this mentioned, what a joke. Could be someone with a drug problem and just needs help. Grant it, they have to want it to get it, but what good is it locking some drug offender up at our expense.
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Usually they get help after the 1st and 2nd strike. Just sayin....
 
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bigbet1234 said:
not sure if it is in any other State, but what bullshit and a waste of tax paying money.

I was watching cops and heard this mentioned, what a joke. Could be someone with a drug problem and just needs help. Grant it, they have to want it to get it, but what good is it locking some drug offender up at our expense.
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Good thing the Bengals don't visit California too often...:lol:
 
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yep, doug,,,, no joke out here in the west,,, lol

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Well I'm 40 and have no felonies in my life. So I would think you would it would be tough to get 3.

What kind of a loser do you have to be to get 3 I mean damn. When do you hold the person accountable for his own actions.

Most times drug posession is not a felony.
 
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I think it's fair. Considering most people never get convicted of anything for their entire life, if you get 3 felonys there is not much hope.
 

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TheRightSide said:
Well I'm 40 and have no felonies in my life. So I would think you would it would be tough to get 3.

What kind of a loser do you have to be to get 3 I mean damn. When do you hold the person accountable for his own actions.

Most times drug posession is not a felony.
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You live in Michigan, you guys have the most fucked up drug laws in the country. The reason felons involved drugs don't get 3 strikes is because they get life for an 8 ball.
 
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I'm sure that fills the prisons pretty fast, at great taxpayer cost.

Is a rapist or murder with two strikes getting pushed out to give a guy life with two drug charges, and a robbery conviction ?
 

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Hey I agree that the drug laws need to change.

OK Besides drugs how could somebody get 3 felonies in 1 lifetime. LOL That would be tough. Also I think if they commit a violent crime like rape they should be gone forever.
 

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TheRightSide said:
Hey I agree that the drug laws need to change.

OK Besides drugs how could somebody get 3 felonies in 1 lifetime. LOL That would be tough. Also I think if they commit a violent crime like rape they should be gone forever.
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I agree with you. The 3 strikes law was created because felons were not getting severe time. So, they figured if you changed you wouldn't be back otherwise

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locking a guy up for 40 years costs over a million bucks. Y'all better start killing them.

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TheRightSide said:
Hey I agree that the drug laws need to change.

OK Besides drugs how could somebody get 3 felonies in 1 lifetime. LOL That would be tough. Also I think if they commit a violent crime like rape they should be gone forever.
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i got 2 with zero drug convictions..........its all relevant
 
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I have none myself, but I can see how they might pile up fast.

Take a gang-banger. He gets one, maybe assaulting a cop or something, does some time.

gets out, robs a store, more time.

strike 3 is ex-felon in possesion of a handgun, or something= LIFE

Calif is going to need a lot of prisons.

I have no solution.
 
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Doug said:
I have none myself, but I can see how they might pile up fast.

Take a gang-banger. He gets one, maybe assaulting a cop or something, does some time.

gets out, robs a store, more time.

strike 3 is ex-felon in possesion of a handgun, or something= LIFE

Calif is going to need a lot of prisons.

I have no solution.
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get rid of idiotic drug laws and people can pay fines like traffic court tickets..........ezy pezy
 

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Law is political propaganda just like most "tough on crime" talk. Studies and data have shown that people convicted of heinous crimes are just as likely to have 2 strikes as not. It doesn't deter people with 2 strikes from doing what they''re gonna do. And some of the worst crimes have come from people with no record at all, so what exactly does it prove or accomplish
 
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Cali is a city in Columbia, we are known as the Golden State. thanks.
 
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California is a country as you have stated previously...California is a parking lot for Mexico...
 
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