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Tampa Bay victory could prove costly

Books might lose over $1 million with Rays win

With a group of future stars including third baseman Evan Longoria, outfielder B.J. Upton and pitcher James Shields, the Tampa Bay Rays were expected to be an improved baseball team this season.

As it has turned out, much to the surprise of Las Vegas oddsmakers, the future arrived sooner than anticipated for the Rays.

Tampa Bay, a 200-1 long shot in April to win the World Series, is making several sports book directors nervous in late October.

The Rays are minus-150 favorites against the National League champion Philadelphia Phillies in a highly improbable World Series matchup that opens Wednesday.

"I don't think it will be a vastly popular matchup, but there is some drama that could unfold and people could get excited about it," MGM Mirage sports book director Jay Rood said Monday.

There is plenty of drama in Las Vegas, where some sports books are facing six-figure losses if Tampa Bay wins the World Series.

Las Vegas Hilton sports book director Jay Kornegay said he's looking at a smaller potential loss, but he's definitely rooting against the Rays.

"It's not that we're going to get destroyed and be forced to shut down the book," Kornegay said. "I would call it a solid loser. It's not an astronomical number.

"But it doesn't take much to accumulate liability when you're giving out 200-1 odds."

Sports books normally hold 25 to 30 percent of futures wagers, so even small losses are unexpected. No specific figures were available, but sources indicated the state's cumulative World Series losses on Tampa Bay could easily top $1 million.

Rood said MGM Mirage is in a rare position to win a small amount on the Rays because of futures book adjustments made during the season.

Tampa Bay opened at 150-1 at MGM Mirage books. The odds dropped to 50-1 at the All-Star break and to 20-1 in early August.

"After the All-Star break, I saw this team wasn't going to go away. I was able to get us in a much better spot," Rood said.

Because most books need to attract Phillies money in the World Series, the Rays opened as bigger favorites. Rood said Tampa Bay should be "realistically" about a minus-130 favorite.

"The line is probably a little inflated because everyone is not in a great position on the Rays in the World Series," said Rood, adding that "most of the damage was done" with wagers on Tampa Bay to win the American League at 75-1 odds.

How low were most expectations for the Rays? The Hilton posted Tampa Bay's regular-season win total at 751/2, and 18 teams were listed higher.

The Hilton opened the Phillies at 20-1 to win the World Series, with a regular-season win total of 87.

Philadelphia is a minus-115 favorite in Game 1 at Tampa Bay. Phillies left-hander Cole Hamels, 3-0 with a 1.23 ERA in three postseason starts, opposes Rays lefty Scott Kazmir.

Hamels is perceived as the strongest starter in the series. But the rest of Philadelphia's rotation -- Brett Myers, Jamie Moyer and Joe Blanton -- could be its weakness.

Tampa Bay seemingly has an edge with Shields and Matt Garza lined up to start behind Kazmir. Garza won two games to help the Rays eliminate Boston in the seven-game AL Championship Series.

Rood said he expects Tampa Bay to win the World Series.

"The Rays match up well in pitching, they've got the bats and they're hot right now," he said.

http://www.lvrj.com/sports/31561064.html
 

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I don't buy it. How much money did they take in on the Cubs, Dodgers, Red Sox, etc...? I bet they are whining because their hold percentage for the World Series winner will be under 20%. Shit, they get to hold a lot of the money for 6 months.
 
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Kenny, I was thinking about that myself. $1 million total loss for all the Vegas books? Is that really that big of a deal?
 

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There is $15m bet on any individual EPL game every weekend.

$1m in season long bets ?

Big deal.
 

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thats vegas... offshore doesnt have the same problem.......im going to guess people working offshore actually adjust lines off of action and know what they're doing..........something vegas lacks............i love the vegas gets buried stories ...and i hear the offshore truths.......and offshore handles 10x or more than what LV does
 

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Been meaning to post this all day but never got around to it. The big town around town for weeks is a Tampa Bay WS win screws Vegas shops hard. Who knows. Either way I am sure they will be just fine in the longrun.
 

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"Don't sweat the small stuff"








I'm sure GW will bail them out....:103631605
 

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They've already offset that money by making a prop for the Rays winning the series at -700 no and +500 yes. Plenty of money on the "no" at - 700. These guys aren't stupid you know.
 

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They've already offset that money by making a prop for the Rays winning the series at -700 no and +500 yes. Plenty of money on the "no" at - 700. These guys aren't stupid you know.


huh?

So people can get 5 to 1 on a -150 favorite?
 

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KRK, I think that was an offering prior to the eight team post season

TB +500
Field -700
 

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Long-Shot Vegas Bet Worth $25,000
Posted Oct 23, 2008 by Rod Challenger
Updated Oct 23, 2008 at 05:28 PM


David Marger, 46, of St. Petersburg, is a Tampa Bay Rays fan who has put his money where his mouth is.
In November, while visiting in Las Vegas, he placed a $100 bet that the Rays would win the World Series this year.
The odds: 250 to 1. Marger would collect $25,000 if the Rays win the world title.
“There definitely was a little alcohol involved,” said Marger, talking about why he made the bet at the Bally’s hotel and casino sports book.
Would he have made the bet if he weren’t a Rays fan?
“I don’t think so,” he said.
Marger said the casino worker who took the bet “kinda smiled and shook his head” when he put his money down.
Marger forgot about the bet, but when the Rays made it into the playoffs, he began looking for the ticket.
“There are about three places where it would normally be, and I went to the first place and it wasn’t there,” he said.
When it wasn’t in the second place he looked, he said, “I broke out into a cold, cold sweat.”
He finally found it in another drawer and then put it in a safe deposit box.
If the Rays do win the World Series, he plans to retrieve the receipt and fly to Las Vegas to cash it in.
He invited some of his friends to join him.
He told them, “We’re going to have a big party on me.”
 
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Don't kid yourself 5Team-that $25k ticket is a drop in the bucket compared to some of them out there. Trust me on that one.
 

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What is the GRAND total of all CUBS world series and NL pennant tickets that have gone uncashed in the past 60 years at every sportsbook in the world past and present???? Every single on of them, never a cent paid out.

25k is pennies to the books.
 

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Long-Shot Vegas Bet Worth $25,000
Posted Oct 23, 2008 by Rod Challenger
Updated Oct 23, 2008 at 05:28 PM


David Marger, 46, of St. Petersburg, is a Tampa Bay Rays fan who has put his money where his mouth is.
In November, while visiting in Las Vegas, he placed a $100 bet that the Rays would win the World Series this year.
The odds: 250 to 1. Marger would collect $25,000 if the Rays win the world title.
“There definitely was a little alcohol involved,” said Marger, talking about why he made the bet at the Bally’s hotel and casino sports book.
Would he have made the bet if he weren’t a Rays fan?
“I don’t think so,” he said.
Marger said the casino worker who took the bet “kinda smiled and shook his head” when he put his money down.
Marger forgot about the bet, but when the Rays made it into the playoffs, he began looking for the ticket.
“There are about three places where it would normally be, and I went to the first place and it wasn’t there,” he said.
When it wasn’t in the second place he looked, he said, “I broke out into a cold, cold sweat.”
He finally found it in another drawer and then put it in a safe deposit box.
If the Rays do win the World Series, he plans to retrieve the receipt and fly to Las Vegas to cash it in.
He invited some of his friends to join him.
He told them, “We’re going to have a big party on me.”

Lets hope he bought some Hedge Funds on Phils just in case .
 

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so this means that statewide only 4k was bet on TB @ 250-1 ? It would hurt if it were all at one smaller Vegas book.

I think they survive this, not huge.

What were the highest odds offshore ?
 

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