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Consumer Watchdog Exposes Google Privacy Problems & Calls for Attorneys General Investigation




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SANTA MONICA, Calif., Nov 03, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Online Video Targets Google's New "Chrome" Browser, Websites And Software Revealed
Consumer Watchdog has created a YouTube video showing how your computer could be having an unnoticed conversation about you with Google. The nonprofit group has called on Google's founders and directors to adopt new privacy safeguards that allow for anonymous internet and software use. Watch the video at http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/google and read the letter to Google's founders at http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/resources/LtrGoogle10-13-08.pdf.
Earlier this month Consumer Watchdog wrote the Justice Department to block Google's proposed advertising alliance with Yahoo based on these privacy concerns; an announcement about the deal is expected later this week. The letter notes that the introduction of Google's new browser, known as "Chrome," without new privacy protections, poses an unprecedented threat to consumers. (Read it at http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/resources/JusticeGooglelet100208.pdf).
"Google's role is now unprecedented because the Internet goliath is no longer merely collecting some data about how we search and surf the web," said Consumer Watchdog president Jamie Court. "Its new browser and software are actually sending information from inside our computers to its servers. If Google won't solve its own privacy problems, the company must be prepared for regulators to put the brakes on its unprecedented growth. State Attorneys General need to take action to protect consumers' privacy and make sure that computer users have the ability to opt-out of Google's web and browse anonymously."
Consumer Watchdog spoke with Google's team last month about its concerns, but the company agreed to address only one of the smaller privacy problems uncovered in the video. Google claims users do not expect to be able to navigate the web anonymously, only to have anonymous moments, which is why Google does not have an easy to use privacy mode for its products. The consumer group's concerns center on creating a simple anonymizing button across Google's products and websites so that there is transparency and an easy opt-out for those who did not wish to share their private data. (Google users can join the campaign and send a free message to the company at http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/google).
Most computer users do not focus on the huge amounts of data sent to Google's servers, Consumer Watchdog said. The introduction of Chrome, unless the privacy concerns are addressed seriously and quickly, could mark the end of real user control and choice online because:
(1) New asynchronous communications are occurring without users' full understanding, consent or control;
(2) Many Chrome features blur the distinction between the desktop and cloud computing, where a computer user's software, documents, data and personal information exist not on the consumer's hard drive but on Google's servers on the Internet. This creates confusion in the consumer's mind about the privacy and security of confidential information;
(3) Chrome's Incognito mode lulls consumers into a false sense of security that their actions are completely private and free from prying eyes when in fact they are not.
"Chrome provides Google unprecedented dominance over the transmission of computer data and warrants higher privacy standards," wrote Consumer Watchdog President Jamie Court and Policy Advocate John Simpson. "Chrome represents a once-in-a decade opportunity to raise the consumer privacy bar to new heights that will benefit consumers, content providers, and ultimately Google itself."
To protect user privacy Consumer Watchdog said Google should:
* Place a single prominent button on the main Chrome interface that can't be hidden or removed and that allows a user to enter Incognito mode instantly without interrupting the user experience. Once in Incognito mode, the application should assume we want to stay incognito, essentially treating Incognito as a default preference once a user has selected it.
* Provide clear disclosure on the Google search engine home pages so that users can easily prevent communication with Google before pressing the search button or affirmatively requesting an action. This could be an extension of an omni-present "Incognito mode" button. This disclosure needs to be made clear throughout all the Google applications including GMail, Google Talk, and the Google Toolbar. This disclosure needs to be more than a confusing warning a few clicks away. It should be a convenient, actionable feature so that the user can exercise informed choice.
* Ensure that Incognito mode has the full meaning the word implies when users opt for it. Incognito mode should default to SSL (Secure Sockets Layer) connections, provide an automatic IP anonymizing service, enforce a no-log policy on all Google servers including Google Analytics, as well as disable auto-saving, suggestions, and all other features that use asynchronous event handlers other than button and link click. Incognito should disable all external calls to desktop applications and plug-ins whose applications fail to meet equivalent standards
"We look forward to your response and to working with Google to make the company the standard bearer for privacy on the Internet," Consumer Watchdog's letter concluded.
Consumer Watchdog, formerly known as The Foundation for Taxpayer and Consumer Rights, is non-profit and non-partisan consumer advocacy group. For more information, visit http://www.ConsumerWatchdog.org.
SOURCE Consumer Watchdog
 

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that's what this message board grabs as well. it grabs IP addresses which can give you location.

thats how will checks for ghosts and how he can tell you where people are posting from in the US
 

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so what does this exactly mean? Should I not be using google chrome?
 

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so what does this exactly mean? Should I not be using google chrome?

Thats up to you....the main concern if you watch the video is the sharing of data w/ googles servers. They know every key stroke you use in their browser and its shared in real time.
 
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this is scary...try this

Go to: http://www.whatismyip.com/

get you ip address..

go to : http://www.maxmind.com/ and insert your ip address...scary

That only tracks where your ISP is based, not where YOU are based. According to that MaxMind site I am around 20 miles away from where I really am. :think2:

The Google Chrome thing is scary, though. A lot of people were predicting that they would so something like that, and it looks like they did.
 

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That only tracks where your ISP is based, not where YOU are based. According to that MaxMind site I am around 20 miles away from where I really am. :think2:

The Google Chrome thing is scary, though. A lot of people were predicting that they would so something like that, and it looks like they did.


True...but i'm at work and even though my location is wrong the my company name is correct.
 

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Whats this google everybody keeps talking about?? i tried to buy a google at WalMart but the clerk didnt seem to know where it was located in the store.
 

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Google saves every search you have ever typed in in a large database and tracks it via IP address. There was a criminal trial where a man murdered his wife and was going to get off with lack of evidence. They went to Google to release the private info, and part of the prosecution was that he had typed into Google how to dispose of a body. This information was used to convict him.
 

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And Google is known as one of the biggest corporations that fights against increased consumer protection, as they have been at the forefront against many privacy acts. Down the road, they could theoretically sell the information that has been stored from people's searches to marketing companies for an absurd amount of $$$.
 

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Google saves every search you have ever typed in in a large database and tracks it via IP address. There was a criminal trial where a man murdered his wife and was going to get off with lack of evidence. They went to Google to release the private info, and part of the prosecution was that he had typed into Google how to dispose of a body. This information was used to convict him.

Damn.. Plan A is no longer viable..
Can u send me a link on "how to dispose of body". Those google MF'ers can not be trusted. Google, what a stupid F'n name anyways. It will never catch on.
 

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