3-team parlays......are they sucker bets?

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The math says that a 3-teamer at 6-1 has less vig than -110. But it also says that the house edge on it is 12.5%, as opposed to 5% on a straight bet at -110.
 

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becaue true odds on an even money 3 game parlay actually pays 7 to 1...the vig is the 6 to 1....bad bet
 

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becaue true odds on an even money 3 game parlay actually pays 7 to 1...the vig is the 6 to 1....bad bet
Yes. Like a hardway on the craps table. The house edge is huge at 12.5%.
 

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It's basically the same vig as betting three independant events on three consecutive days, and doubling up each day, so it is fair enough, IMO.
 

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I think in some cases it could be considered not a sucker bet
 

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But here is what I don't get. The true vig adjusted -110 odds give you 5.96 to 1 on a three teamer. So you are actually getting less than -110 vig.

The house edge on a straight wager at -110 is 5%. The house edge on a 3-team parlay at 6-1 is 12.5%. So how does the house edge go up while the vig goes down?
 

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Cuz there are tons of people out there that say "baseball parlays are not a ripoff, because you are getting true odds."

They don't realize that with a three-teamer, you are always getting better than true odds, if you account for the -110 vig on each leg.
 

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It would rarely be a correlated parlay ( maybe on the last Sunday of NFL reg season), but it is simply the expected vig of 3 straight bets in succession.

It is also a great use of freeplays.

It is also attractive if you have a book that pays +650 on it, some even used to pay the full +700 on it.
 

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But here is what I don't get. The true vig adjusted -110 odds give you 5.96 to 1 on a three teamer. So you are actually getting less than -110 vig.

The house edge on a straight wager at -110 is 5%. The house edge on a 3-team parlay at 6-1 is 12.5%. So how does the house edge go up while the vig goes down?

You made 3 bets
 

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It would rarely be a correlated parlay ( maybe on the last Sunday of NFL reg season), but it is simply the expected vig of 3 straight bets in succession.

It is also a great use of freeplays.

It is also attractive if you have a book that pays +650 on it, some even used to pay the full +700 on it.
I'm just kind of having a brain freeze. I understand the math, but just wondering how the house edge can go up while the vig goes down. I guess the answer is that a winning bet pays the vig 3 times, so the net vig is a lot higher than -110.
 

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A normal bet of 110 to win 100: both sides

House in= 220
House out= 210

they win 10 of the 220 handled or 4.54 % of the money

A 3 teamer all ways

800 in
700 out

house holds 12.5%, but the money was bet 3 times, as the winning parlay automatically rebet the money at -110.
 

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A normal bet of 110 to win 100: both sides

House in= 220
House out= 210

they win 10 of the 220 handled or 4.54 % of the money

A 3 teamer all ways

800 in
700 out

house holds 12.5%, but the money was bet 3 times, as the winning parlay automatically rebet the money at -110.
You're right. 4.54%, not 5. 12.5% on a three-teamer. Just like a hardway.....definitely a sucker bet.

But the same applies at baseball, too. Even if you're betting +140, +130, and +160, each of those lines have vig, and if you win, you're paying the vig 3 times......net effect is that you're paying a helluva lot more vig on any parlay than you are on a straight wager. But people just look at the payout and think "I'm getting true odds, so it's a good deal." Not a good deal.
 

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Not even sure what those are, but I'm sure there is more vig in them than a straight wager.

It's just a bunch of two team parlays for all scenarios, right?

2's, 3's, 4's, or combinations and variations of such .

not a great idea to RR, unless you are getting +280 and +650.
 

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It's basically the same vig as betting three independant events on three consecutive days, and doubling up each day, so it is fair enough, IMO.

One Reply notes that there are actually eight possible outcomes of a 3Teamer, so getting back only 6x1 is a rip.

But Doug also correctly notes that if you make a single play at 11/10 and roll it over twice into subsequent 11/10 wagers, you'll come out at about 6.1

11>21>40.10>76.60

minus your original 11 and you're at 66.60
 

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I have taken in past year or so to almost only use 2 and sometimes 3team parlays as a way to engage a Moneyline favorite without exposing myself to MinusJuice
 

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Certainly agree that if you have sufficient time between Events to place the items separately, it's better to play the first one straight and then roll over into a second straight bet etc
 

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I'm just kind of having a brain freeze. I understand the math, but just wondering how the house edge can go up while the vig goes down. I guess the answer is that a winning bet pays the vig 3 times, so the net vig is a lot higher than -110.

Hard to believe this is the same guy that came up with the algebra to make -1 lines.

Did you starting pot recently, Illini ?
 

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